What The #*!$@^! Heck?!?!?


We know this stuff! And the rising numbers of new cases of COVID infections across the nation are not a cause for alarm.

Yes, the cases of coronavirus are on the rise! We knew it would happen! Testing has been ramping up, and people have been getting out and about and mingling.

But… In response to the increase in the number of cases, people are doing exactly the opposite of what they should be doing: they’re reshutting down states and businesses and outdoor activities! They should be re-opening everything, and ramping up everything. Then, they should engage in some good ol’-fashioned discrimination against older folks, and keep them out of sporting events and concerts and theaters and the like.

We know these things! The virus is highly discriminatory! The only ones who are in any danger at all from this thing are the very elderly and those with other conditions that have weakened them or their respiratory systems.

Period.

The median age of those who have died from COVID is… north of 84 years old!

Look at this:

Source: CDC (link)

If you’re under the age of 55 years, you have almost no chance of having a severe case of COVID. You have an even lower chance of dying from it.

You really have very little chance of dying from COVID even if you are older or sicker.

Here’s the way we should have responded to COVID from the get-go:

  • Quarantine everyone 60 years old and older.
  • Quarantine those who are sick, especially those with respiratory ailments.
  • Let the rest of the country act completely normally. Let them live their lives completely normally except for one thing: They can’t come into direct contact with the elderly and the sick. For however long it takes for this thing to pass on by.

Simple as that.

We knew that the number of cases would rise, and rise rapidly, as testing ramped up even more, and as “social distancing” guidelines relaxed.

Furthermore, given what we know about the virus, the “number of cases” is perfectly unimportant.

The truly important thing to know is: has the rate of infection changed among the now well-known vulnerable populations: the elderly and the infirm? If those numbers are staying about the same, or diminishing, then the rising number of “new cases” is not even the tiniest bit worrisome. Guess what: the important stuff about COVID is all going in the right direction: down. Things like: Death rates, hospitalization rates, infection rates among vulnerable populations.


Here’s what’s really mysterious: My above prescribed course of action, should have been at least the default course of action from the beginning. Why? Easy: the things we did know were very, very simple, and we knew them from the very beginning:

  • It’s a respiratory ailment.
  • All older people are more vulnerable to all illnesses.
  • All people with other conditions — especially respiratory ailments — are more vulnerable to other respiratory ailments.

There were some governors who reacted correctly to this thing: Governor DeSantis of Florida acted immediately and aggressively to quarantine older folks, and to keep them away from anyone who might be either a carrier or who actively had COVID.

Of course! That’s exactly what anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together would have done! Talk about “Duh!

So, here’s the real mystery: Why didn’t the governor of the state of New York do the same thing? Why did the governor of New York issue an executive order to force nursing homes — chock full of old and sick people! — to take in COVID positive people?!?

Why didn’t the governors of all the 50 states together do at least what I mentioned. What Andrew Cuomo did in New York State was the thing guaranteed to kill thousands of people.

They did the same thing in Washington State, and old folks died by the thousands.

Serious question: Why on earth?!? Again, anyone with more than two brain cells to rub together would have known for certain that such an order would kill untold numbers of people! As it did.

As for the governor of New York State, Andrew Cuoma, either he doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together, or he did know that he’d be killing untold numbers of elderly people in his state.

Now, the best possible interpretation of this is, of course, that Andrew Cuomo is a complete idiot, not that he’s a mass-murdering maniac.

Of course, we didn’t know the details of all this when it all was just starting up, but there were some obvious things that we should have known from the get-go. All the really basic stuff that we knew as soon as we understood that this was a respiratory illness.

I’m not really a conspiracy theory kind of guy, but the executive orders by the Democrat governors of Washington State and New York State were so obviously designed to kill older and sicker folks, that it seems almost as if they were trying to thin their populations a bit.

I wonder whether their states’ budgets for the care of elderly people were running low, and what a great thing it would be if there were maybe fewer older people… That’s how it worked out, anyway.

Here’s the deal: if and when something like COVID pops up again, and if the various state and governmental authorities do the same damn things, then there’ll be no other possible conclusions: #1: our elected authorities are complete idiots, or #2: our elected authorities are deeply evil, or #3: Both.

— xPraetorius

11 thoughts on “What The #*!$@^! Heck?!?!?

    1. Only ’cause it’s true.

      So, since you don’t believe it, what part did I get wrong about our prescribed course of action to deal with it?

      Best,

      — x

  1. Completely agree with you x, well except for your suggestion of mandatory quarantines for people above 60. We don’t do that in America! I know plenty in that age range who are healthier than most 20 year olds. Even up to about age 70 you still have pretty good odds with covid unless you have a pre existing condition that makes you more vulnerable.

    I really hope the people that made such disastrous decisions (and continue to) in dealing with this virus get held accountable some day. We all know they won’t but still…

    1. Thank you, Tricia!

      I agree with your critique. For a moment I kind of forgot that we live in America! Rather than mandatory quarantine, recommended guidelines ought to do the trick.

      However, if an older person wants to risk his life, he should be allowed to. This is, after all, America.

      Thanks for the needed corrective!

      Best,

      — x

  2. 1. I was rather shocked that you accepted the science that has classified this “bug” as a respiratory disease. Kinda unusual for a Trump Conservative to accept science.

    2. It was stated many weeks ago as the problems with the CDC were unfolding that there were no formal mandates on collecting data in the field requiring any medical institution to report Covid deaths to the CDC. This holds up given any number of hospitals and medical centers have not been reporting or reporting with any consistency, Covid stats. More to the overall point, many of those fearing infection and having symptoms before adequate testing, opted to stay at home rather than go to a hospital and really get infected.. much less be a victim there of overworked staffs with low PPE.. and dying alone, face down on a bed with a respirator hooked up, in some medically induced fog. Also… causes of death many times were attributed to other afflictions or diseases as coroners and funeral people were not required to investigate causes of deaths.. and certainly no one having the time to do autopsies, and families reluctant to pay for them. In other words.. the numbers are completely in question. In fact, some research is suggesting all these numbers are anywhere from 8 times to 24 times higher.

    3. Something like 26% of the workforce is reflected in the 45 – 65 age group.
    (https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-03.pdf)
    That’s something like 80 million. So.. while the younger years are still engaged in life, the virus is spreading around the world and back.. and by your “solution” when would the 26% return to work… or more to the point, would they even have jobs left? Consider #4.

    4. The critical part of this entire pandemic is the strain on the health care system in general. While old people dying to you is a matter of simple attrition to save the greater cause.. which is the economy… many of the younger ages are also clogging up the hospitals with needing long term care until recovery. So segregating the old folks doesn’t do a whole lot when the younger folks are still roaming around, infecting each other, and many ending up sick for long periods. It’s also being revealed that many of these long, tough recoveries have resulted in not only ongoing effects but also some continuing mental health issues. By the numbers? Who the #*!$@^! knows!

    5. This “herd” nonsense hasn’t worked in Sweden.. and not one (non-political) medical person is even suggestion that as being a viable solution without accepting huge losses and greater stress on the economy. I don’t think you even mentioned it.. but I could feel it coming.

    6. But this is my fave thing you said here…
    “Why didn’t the governors of all the 50 states together do at least what I mentioned.”

    Talk about being dense. Why didn’t the federal government step in with unifying guidance on anything rather than deny? This is not one bit about 50 governors getting together… this is totally about lack of leadership at the top. Forget Cuomo… he’s not a god and no one knew what was going on in the beginning of all this and he made a call early on… and most certainly no on was sure at all how to respond. You have 50 governors and therefore 50 different approaches because of no federal leadership. Armchair critique all you want… you didn’t have his responsibility.. and most certainly never will. Yes.. if my loved one was one of the Covid victims because of what Cuomo did I’d certainly be pissed.. get the lawyers together and let’s go at it. But he never woke up that morning and said, “I think I’m gonna kill a few old people this morning and blame it all on Trump.” Get real. BUT.. I will absolutely assign nearly every GOP governor for walking lockstep to Trump in trying to minimize it all.. and make the mask a political issue. It’s sick. The one positive element I can draw from all this is that Trump’s gonna be gone… it’s just a matter of whether the country can last. A #*!$@^ price to pay.

    1. You said:
      1. I was rather shocked that you accepted the science that has classified this “bug” as a respiratory disease. Kinda unusual for a Trump Conservative to accept science.

      My Reply:
      Idiotic paragraph from an unserious person.
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      You said:
      2. It was stated many weeks ago as the problems with the CDC were unfolding that there were no formal mandates on collecting data in the field requiring any medical institution to report Covid deaths to the CDC. This holds up given any number of hospitals and medical centers have not been reporting or reporting with any consistency, Covid stats. More to the overall point, many of those fearing infection and having symptoms before adequate testing, opted to stay at home rather than go to a hospital and really get infected.. much less be a victim there of overworked staffs with low PPE.. and dying alone, face down on a bed with a respirator hooked up, in some medically induced fog. Also… causes of death many times were attributed to other afflictions or diseases as coroners and funeral people were not required to investigate causes of deaths.. and certainly no one having the time to do autopsies, and families reluctant to pay for them. In other words.. the numbers are completely in question. In fact, some research is suggesting all these numbers are anywhere from 8 times to 24 times higher.

      My Reply:
      A largely incoherent hodge-podge of some true things, lots of speculation, and repeats of what we’ve already said. None of which challenges in the least my analysis of the way to approach this. In fact, it all buttresses what I said, so thanks for that.
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      You said:
      3. Something like 26% of the workforce is reflected in the 45 – 65 age group.
      (https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-03.pdf)
      That’s something like 80 million. So.. while the younger years are still engaged in life, the virus is spreading around the world and back.. and by your “solution” when would the 26% return to work… or more to the point, would they even have jobs left? Consider #4.
      My Reply:
      “45-65” is meaningless, when you consider that anyone under the age of 60 has almost no chance of a life-threatening encounter with COVID. Can’t you get serious, Doug? READ WHAT I WROTE! Obviously, in the 45-65 cohort, the serious experiences with COVID are very heavily overloaded in the 60-65 group (source: CDC), so lumping the 45-65 year olds together is both meaningless, and points out that you concede our point yet again. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have made the meaningless grouping. So, thank you for that, yet again. And, again as soon as we recognized that the virus is highly discriminatory we could have started re-opening. All the way back in March! Lots and lots and lots and lots of jobs would still be there if we’d simply re-opened using the parameters I suggested.

      Also, your number of 80 million for 26% of the workforce is, obviously, very, very wrong. That would mean that the American workforce is more than 320 million strong! Not bad. Every man, woman and child is working in America? I don’t think so. Doug, if you can believe a number like this, that’s so far out of whack, well then it’s no wonder you believe the rest of the flapdoodle you believe!
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      You said:
      4. The critical part of this entire pandemic is the strain on the health care system in general. While old people dying to you is a matter of simple attrition to save the greater cause.. which is the economy… many of the younger ages are also clogging up the hospitals with needing long term care until recovery. So segregating the old folks doesn’t do a whole lot when the younger folks are still roaming around, infecting each other, and many ending up sick for long periods. It’s also being revealed that many of these long, tough recoveries have resulted in not only ongoing effects but also some continuing mental health issues. By the numbers? Who the #*!$@^! knows!

      My Reply:
      Hogwash. You’re still in Andrew Cuoma’s “I need 40,000 ventilators!” mode. They were delivered… and mostly unused. Hospitals around the country aren’t even close to capacity. ER’s and OR’s lie idle as many, many, many, many real doctors have been reporting. My daughter’s best friend is a nurse a the largest hospital in the state, and she says her hospital has never been close to capacity. They’ve never lacked for PPE, and they have plenty of ventilators.

      Again, read things, Doug. Not just NPR or whatever media source(s) you’re using to stay so poorly informed. Where did you get the idea that I believe that “old people dying is a matter of simple attrition to save the greater cause”?!?!? My entire piece was condemning the murderous executive order by Cuomo, because it killed so many old folks! More: this piece explicitly condemns the entirely preventable deaths in nursing homes! Again, if you excised the stupid, the ignorant, the personal attacks, and the parts where you demonstrate that you simply don’t understand something, your posts would improve dramatically.
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      You said:
      5. This “herd” nonsense hasn’t worked in Sweden.. and not one (non-political) medical person is even suggestion that as being a viable solution without accepting huge losses and greater stress on the economy. I don’t think you even mentioned it.. but I could feel it coming.

      My Reply:
      Sweden’s approach worked just fine. Though no one followed our correct prescriptions to the letter, as that would have minimized loss of life around the world. Obviously.

      Doug, you appear to be denying the science! COVID is highly discriminatory, it is a respiratory ailment, it does target the elderly and the sick — all as I said in this and the previous essay. What of those scientific facts are you denying?

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      You said:
      6. But this is my fave thing you said here…
      (Quoting me) “Why didn’t the governors of all the 50 states together do at least what I mentioned.” (End quote)

      (Doug’s reply) Talk about being dense. Why didn’t the federal government step in with unifying guidance on anything rather than deny? This is not one bit about 50 governors getting together… this is totally about lack of leadership at the top. Forget Cuomo… he’s not a god and no one knew what was going on in the beginning of all this and he made a call early on… and most certainly no on was sure at all how to respond. You have 50 governors and therefore 50 different approaches because of no federal leadership. Armchair critique all you want… you didn’t have his responsibility.. and most certainly never will. Yes.. if my loved one was one of the Covid victims because of what Cuomo did I’d certainly be pissed.. get the lawyers together and let’s go at it. But he never woke up that morning and said, “I think I’m gonna kill a few old people this morning and blame it all on Trump.” Get real. BUT.. I will absolutely assign nearly every GOP governor for walking lockstep to Trump in trying to minimize it all.. and make the mask a political issue. It’s sick. The one positive element I can draw from all this is that Trump’s gonna be gone… it’s just a matter of whether the country can last. A #*!$@^ price to pay.
      My Reply:
      I note that you started with a personal attack. Obviously, you’re incoherent with the rest. The central (better word) government did, obviously, step in with unifying guidance… then your heroes in the leftist media took Trump’s daily updates off the air. Also, as the central government — Trump — has little to no power over what happens in the states, he could provide only guidance. He did. The entire effort was federalized, Doug… I understand that you might not know that word, but it means that it was dispersed out to the states to handle as each state saw fit.

      Cuomo might not be a god, but he tried to play one with his executive order, that killed thousands of old people. I’d argue that he also knew that it would kill old folks. If he didn’t then he’s an idiot. You get your choice with Cuomo: either he’s a blithering idiot, or a callous, cold-blooded killer. I’d argue that the latter is the former also, but that’s for another day. Cuomo’s murderous executive order made no sense at the time it was issued, and it, obviously, makes no sense now. Cuomo killed thousands, there’s no getting around it. For you to deny that can mean only that you’re just another cuomosexual like the ones cropping up all over the place.

      You said:You have 50 governors and therefore 50 different approaches because of no federal leadership.” — That is incorrect. There is no “federal (centra) leadership” by design, Doug. Didn’t you see what happened when Trump tried to get a bit tough with the idiot governor of Michigan, Whitmer? She told him to go stuff it. We live in a largely decentralized country. If a governor doesn’t want to do what Trump says, he doesn’t have to, and there’s little Trump can do about it. Again, Doug, why do I constantly have to educate you about these basic things?

      You said: “…he (Cuomo) never woke up that morning and said, “I think I’m gonna kill a few old people this morning and blame it all on Trump.” — You’ll note that I never alleged that. Add one thing to the list of things to remove from your posts, Doug: strawmen. I hinted that the idiot Cuomo might have issued the toweringly half-witted (or evil, take your pick) executive order to “thin the herd, because his budget for elder care was getting low.” I admit it’s engaging in conspiracy theories, but it’s also exactly how it worked out. Hmmmmm…

      You said: “BUT.. I will absolutely assign nearly every GOP governor for walking lockstep to Trump in trying to minimize it all.. and make the mask a political issue. It’s sick.” — This is incoherent. I suspect you were scrabbling for a point here, but you failed to make one.

      You said: “The one positive element I can draw from all this is that Trump’s gonna be gone…” — Very possible… and it’ll be the lies, fabrications, corruption, fraud and willful ignorance of the Democrats, the media, and people like you who will have done it. You can be proud of yourself, Doug, you’ll have participated in one of the greatest frauds ever perpetrated against a once free people. The part that the ignorance of useful idiots like you will play in Trump’s electoral defeat will be quite large. Hooray! You’ll be replacing Trump with people who have all Trump’s allegedly bad characteristics, and none of his good ones. Good job, Doug.

      Well… that was fun. Again, Doug… as last time. I don’t really have the time to devote to unserious people, so I’m re-relegating you to unserious status. Future replies will simply point out that you’re an unserious interlocutor, prone to superficial, easily-debunked, false argumentation, and I’m not going to waste any more time with you.
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      Best,

      — x

        1. And with that, your record is perfect: You have yet to contribute a substantive objection to anything we said.

          You’ve kind of epitomized one of my favorite phrases, that we coined here: “He has nothing to say, and says it at great length.

          I still like you, but that’s kind of an epic fail, Doug.

          Best,

          — x

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