Brothawolf Replies…(Part II)


This is the second part of Brothawolf’s (BW’s) reply to my post here. By way of brief introduction, BW replied, in extra-looooong fashion, to our post (linked above). It was a long, long, looooooong reply. It was unlike any other reply we’ve ever seen here at our small, but increasingly influential think tank.

As I mentioned, I figured I’d take BW’s four very long replies and put them together in one post. After all, there’s definitely thematic and content continuity between all the posts, so this seems a good way to demonstrate that.

I’ve put together all the posts, and my replies, into one post, below. BW’s content is in black font, and labeled, “You said:” while my replies are in red font, labeled My Response:

So, without further ado, here’s the whole thing:


You (Brothawolf) said:

Okay. I’m going to come right out and say it. It won’t hurt you, because you lack any capacity for humanity beyond your lily white male matrix, but here’s the truth. YOU DON’T GIVE A FLYING [Juvenile obscenity deleted] ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE! Yes, I said it! Black people mean nothing to you as you see us as wayward children being taken in by a political ideology that you’ve declared war on when, in your mind, they should join your side, because it knows what’s best for them.

My (xPraetorius’) Response:

Some of this is correct. Some of it is just stupid. What you say doesn’t hurt me. Dude, they’re words. That’s all. They can’t hurt a flea! You are, of course, wrong about what I care about and what I don’t care about. The charge that you don’t care about the health and well-being of black people is much more credible, because you participate in the movement that is killing them, and preventing the majority of the country from proposing solutions to black-on-black violence. Sorry. You’re an accomplice in the violence, and you ought to be ashamed of yourself. As far as your last sentence is concerned, it’s nonsensical, and more of your usual mind-reading silliness. No point in addressing it.

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You said:

Go ahead and be predictable and say how wrong I am. I know that’s what you’ll do. It further proves you really don’t want an open conversation about our plight. Anyone with eyes can see it. You just prefer not to. Instead, you really want to preach to me and us “black liberals” about why we’re wrong about what we’re fighting against. You, a straight white male who thinks racism is not a major issue in this nation and thinks there were more white slaves than blacks in Africa. Whatever nonsense you spouted that you picked up from a right wing site that you’ve said a million times, you’ll say it a billion times, because to you, “It’s worth repeating” to you and your followers you love to death, because you “free thinkers” all virtually think alike and like it.

My Response:

BW, you’d do a lot better if you’d stop letting your temper control your writing. First, you have no idea what color I am, and you have no idea whether I’m a man or woman, so this is practically entirely a throwaway paragraph. Again, you should try to think about what you’re writing before you write it. And, I proved to you that white hostility to black Americans is not a big problem in America. There’s no evidence whatsoever that you have ever presented to counter that. I, on the other hand, have shown you a whole lot of evidence and more to support my conclusion. Furthermore, you’ve never said one thing — not once! — to counter my “five things.” As far as there having been more white slaves in Africa than black slaves in America, I both proved it to you and you admitted it! Dude: pay attention! You’re funny about the right-wing web sites. I gave you only highly credible, worldwide-respected sources. Thomas Sowell is respected by all wings for his insights and brilliance. I quoted him. And, again, your last sentence was nonsensical and barely comprehensible. Again, you should learn the gentle art of proof-reading.

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You said:

I really don’t care what you scream about, because they lack truth, facts and reality. Furthermore, your lack of civility when someone disagrees with you shows how pathetic you are and are unwilling to step outside of your comfort zone.

My Response:

Lol! You might have noticed that I really don’t scream around here. The only screaming around here is coming from you, Dude. The only lack of civility is coming from you. I always write calmly and under control. You do realize that calling me “pathetic” is not all that civil, don’t you? I defy you to find anything in my writing that is less civil to you than you are to me. Don’t try too hard… you won’t find it. So, if all that I “scream” about “lacks truth, facts and reality,” it should be child’s play to counter my “five things.” Why don’t you try to do that instead of all this ranting?

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You said:

Bottom line: What black people go through is not a liberal or conservative thing, nor is it a democrat or republican thing. IT’S A HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE, STUPID, A HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE YOU CHOOSE TO IGNORE, NOT BASED ON FACTS BUT AS A LIKELY ATTEMPT TO REMAIN IN YOUR CONSERVATIVE BUBBLE WHERE YOU’RE SAFE AND SOUND IN YOUR ALTERNATIVE POCKET DIMENSION!!!

My Response:

This is too funny! You do realize, I hope, whom you’re quoting when you say, “What black people go through is not a liberal or conservative thing, nor is it a democrat or republican thing. IT’S A HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE.

Yep. You’re quoting me! I’m glad you’re finally getting around to realizing this! You’re even funnier when you tell me I’m ignoring the problem! Especially after you’ve spent so much time and energy telling me to shutup about it!

Dude: do you even think about anything you write? Seriously. What you don’t get is that I’ve been telling you that you can get some seriously constructive ideas from Conservatives, but you and your confreres in the Race Grievance Industry keep calling us racists when we talk about it. Then — in this very paragraph! — you accuse me of ignoring it. Again, you need to make up your mind. You’re just not serious.

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You said:

But here’s what you’ll do. What you’ll always do. You’ll say how wrong I am. You’ll insult my intelligence. You’ll give me the usual right wing babble with no links to sources. You may even ask for proof, but we both know how they will end up. And you’ll probably even say how you like me for some reason.

My Response:

Dude: You’ve never said anything different from what you said when we first met. Please don’t try to pretend that you’re somehow ever so much more open-minded than I am. You’ve still never said anything serious to counter my “five things.” Sorry, but that pretty much proves my points.

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You said:

You can’t deny, downplay or rewrite the history of black people in this country no matter how often you write it or repeat it. There is no denying that black people have and still are facing hardships in this nation that you, as a white person, don’t understand. No matter what “race relations” lessons you’ve learned, you can NEVER understand how it feels to be black in America. And you’ve shown you not only don’t know, you really don’t care, and you’re too afraid to face it.

My Response:

You’re right about one thing: I can’t “deny, downplay or rewrite the history of black people in this country.” And I’d never try. But you do it all the time. You completely ignore the most important part of black history of all: the last three generations! I know why: it’s because those sixty years are not at all convenient to your silly victimization narrative. Yes, black people face hardships in this nation, and they’re no different from those that white people face. Guess what: You don’t know how it feels to be black in America either. No one knows “how it feels to be black in America.” You know only what it feels like to be you in America. That’s it. The rest is just guesswork, based on an understanding of facts and history and things like that. You’re challenged in both areas. You have no real facts, and you’re ignorant of history so, sorry, Dude, but my analysis is a lot better than yours. So, guess what, I almost certainly know more and better about “how it feels to be black in America.”

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You said:

You want to bring up how nothing I say can hurt you. That’s a lie. The fact that I talk about white racism struck a nerve obviously. Why else would you relentlessly go on the offensive before I ultimately banned you? It wasn’t because it wasn’t true. It was because it upsets you. You probably placed yourself as one of “those” white people, and it offended you to the point beyond reason.

My Response:

You’re still being funny! Telling me what hurts my feelings and what doesn’t! Things about which you couldn’t have the slightest clues! Obviously. I’ll tell you what, I’ll tell you what motivates me, okay? And I’ll extend the same courtesy to you. 🙂 You banned me because you were losing our debates so badly. As in this little screed of yours, you couldn’t stop yourself from the name-calling, the racial slurs, the mind-reading, the insults, the whining and the general substanceless silliness. Of course you banned me! It’s what the Left does. They shut off speech. Your last sentence was, again, nonsensical and incomprehensible. Dude: Learn to proofread. Try this: after you write something, go back a bit later and read it. If you’re having trouble understanding it, then others will too.

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You said:

Your “black-on-black crime” argument and you calling me out is not just cyberbullying but an attempt to shift a conversation about black people in your favor, and you don’t want to see how that’s a big [Swearing removed] problem. Black people are not oblivious as to not see the problem of crime and violence, especially not black liberals as you call them. Black people have been aware and have been working for years to do something about it. BUT we also recognize the racism we face in this country daily, and we fight against that as well. But you don’t want to hear that. You demand proof. You demand we agree with your silly, fragile [Juvenile obscenity removed], because – again – you, a white male, know better than us blacks.

My Response:

Again: you have no idea what race or sex I am. It kind of demolishes the entirety of this silly little rant, since it’s entirely predicated on my being white and male. Dude: it’s not “cyberbullying” to tell you the truth. About “shifting the conversation in my favor,” that’s what everyone tries to do. All the time. You say, “Black people have been aware and have been working for years to do something about” black-on-black violence. Guess what, Dude: it’s not working. Why don’t you try something else? Maybe listen to someone else’s ideas? 🙂 I don’t demand that you do anything. I do suggest that you grow up and stop acting like a big, over-sensitive baby. You donn’t “recognize racism,” or else you’d see black racism. Anyone who “recognizes racism” recognizes all racism, or else he’s a phony. You’re a phony, BW. You’re okay with black racism that’s all over the place, and you wee racism everywhere that’s not even there. You’re Don Quixote tilting at windmills, deluding yourself into thinking that you’re fighting against the big, bad white man, who abandoned the vast majority of his silly racism 50 years ago.

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You said:

And you’re afraid to see how blatantly racist that is. Yet, you call me a “coward” and a “chicken”. [Juvenile obscenity removed]!

My Response:

Yeah… no. Telling you the truth is not racist. Pandering to your silliness and pretending that the codswallop you write is deep wisdom… that would be racist. You are a coward. Anyone who bans a commenter just because the commenter wallops him in a debate is a coward. (Remember: you try to tell me all the time how I’m thinking, so I’m returning the favor.)

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You said:

The only coward here is YOU AND YOUR “FRIENDS”, if they exist and are not fake accounts you created. You don’t want to face the reality that racism is STILL a major issue in this nation, and judging by your blog alone, you don’t want to acknowledge the racism that existed in the past: slavery, black codes, segregation, the War on Drugs, police brutality, stop-and-frisk in poor black neighborhoods, any and all incidences of hate crimes against blacks and the recent news reports of (mostly) white people calling the police on black people for just being there. Like it or not, all of this has been done against black people by WHITE PEOPLE. And by trying to avoid it or rewrite it in anyway, YOU’RE PART OF THE PROBLEM AS WELL.

My Response:

Yep. All that has happened. And a lot more has been done to black people by… black people. A LOT more. In the last 50 years, of course. You guys in the Obsessed With the Past bunch forgot all about that. And you forgot all about the demonstrable fact that white people have abandoned anti-black hostility nearly entirely. Now, per capita, there’s a lot more black-on-white crime than there is white-on-black crime. A lot more. Yet, this is the very first time I’ve ever mentioned that in our exchanges. I’ve always spoken of black-on-black crime. Why don’t you ask me what my ideas are on that subject. I might surprise you. One more point: for every single rare incident of white-on-black hostility, there are tens of thousands of incidents of white-to-black generosity and well-meaning. I haven’t tried to re-write anything. You, by contrast, regularly try to re-write recent history. Oh, by the way, your rant at the beginning of the paragraph is just silly. I’ve proven that silliness wrong many times too.

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You said:

I know. None of this will register in that head of yours. You’re too far gone to reason with let alone talk to as an adult. You claim that I libel million of white people. What the [Juvenile obscenity removed] does that even mean? Talking about racism is DOES NOT mean I hate white people, stupid! Are you that weak to not know the difference? Apparently so.

My Response:

Look it up, Dude. To libel someone is to slander him in print. However, when you admitted that you’re prejudiced against white people, that was kind of a clue that you don’t like white people. Hate? I don’t know. And you should try to stop the petty name-calling. It really means that you’re out of argumentation gas.

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You said:

You don’t know what the truth is about what black people go through, and you don’t want to know. It shows in your writing and comments. You think lies are the truth, and you’re too lost to know what the difference is. It’s amazingly sad. I really pity you.

My Response:

Again, you don’t know what I know, and you don’t know what I want to know. And you can’t know any of that until you and I interact a whole lot more, and without all your silly temper tantrums. Sorry. Simple truths are sometimes the hardest to understand. Thanks for your pity, but I don’t need it. 🙂

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You said:

But I can’t stand your [Juvenile obscenity removed], and you only have YOURSELF to blame.

My Response:

Awwww… I’m starting to think you don’t like me! 🙂

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You said:

Like I said, I believe in personal responsibility, but fools like you don’t even know what it means. It’s something everyone else must learn, but you. Again, you don’t want to look at yourself and see how wrong you are, because you’re scared of what you’ll see and would prefer to blame everything and everyone else but yourself. Again, how amazingly sad.

My Response:

Lol! Are you really able to delude yourself into believing that you know all that about me? Your pop psychology is really a just a bunch silliness.

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You said:

What’s even more sad is that you’ll prove every one of my points and not know it. You’ll needlessly respond to this in your usual fashion, proving another point that you don’t want to learn anything or have an open and civil conversation. Again, you just want to preach the gospel and expect others to listen unquestionably. How old are you, twelve?

My Response:

Lol! Nope. Not twelve. You? Again, though, the only lack of civility here has come from you. It’s the case in all our interactions. If I were your mother, I’d send you to your room for the vocabulary you’ve used here, and for the way you’ve spoken to another person. You ought to be ashamed of yourself, and I demand an apology from you. I’ll expect it pronto.

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You said:

Is the fact that you refuse to converse with me like an adult is due to me being a liberal as you claim without even talking to me like a human being? Is it because I’m black, and thus, I don’t know [Juvenile obscenity removed] and need a white man to guide me to the light? Is it because I’m a black person who has the [dirty word removed] to disagree with you, and that [dirty word removed] you off? WHAT THE [Juvenile obscenity removed] IS IT?

My Response:

There’s, obviously, good reason why I might, from time to time, treat you like a child. A quick hint: look for the “Juvenile obscenity removed” passages. As you can see, there’s plenty of reason to treat you like a child, but I always manage to resist the temptation. 🙂

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You said:

If you’re against racism as you claim, why haven’t you written about the reports about black people having the police called on them by scared whites and in every report, they haven’t committed any crimes nor have caused any disturbances? Again, YOU’RE TOO SCARED TO. Their lives don’t matter to you. You’ll come up with every excuse from the racist textbook to look away from the strong possibility that race was a factor.

My Response:

Nope. You’re wrong in all your guesses. The answer for my not having talked about those things is simple: those are not significant incidents — read this well — as it pertains to the entire country. They’re bad for the people involved, and if the people placing the calls are doing it because of racism, that’s bad too. However, these incidents are rare, and tell us nothing of the general situation of the country itself. It’s why I also don’t write about individual incidents of black-on-white violence, which are way more common than white-on-black incidents. Again, even if the incidents you talk of were entirely race-based, read this well, they don’t tell us anything about the entire country. I’m resisting the temptation to call you stupid — as you did to me — for having to state the obvious for you. 🙂

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You said:

But you won’t admit to anything, will you? YOU’RE THAT AFRAID OF THE REAL WORLD. To you, fact, truths and reality are the monsters under your bed, and you’re scared to look under there.

My Response:

Lol! Doctor BW! The quack is in! You really do need to stop pretending to know things you couldn’t possibly know.

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You said:

I guess that’s the real reason why you voted for Trump. He’s as fearful and hateful as you, and I guess that’s why you secretly adore him. Or what I said libel? Oh wait, I’m trying to read your mind. Like I said before, you’re not that hard to figure out. You make it as plain as day how afraid of reality and change you are. Your relentless attacks on the left prove that without a shadow of a doubt even though the left is a part of America whether like it or not.

My Response:

Congratulations, BW, that’s one of the stupidest paragraphs you’ve ever written! And that’s saying something! As far as the Left’s being part of America is concerned, nothing, not even America, is perfect. It doesn’t mean that we ignore the imperfections. It means that we’re always trying to fix the imperfections. The Left is the worst thing about America, and it’s fun to expose their half-witteries, because they’re not too bright so, like you, I wallop them. And it’s fun.

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You said:

Seriously, who’s really supporting fascism here? Do you even know what it means without a quick google search?

My Response:

Lol! Well, let’s see: You did the censoring. You did the banning. You shut my friends and me up. You did the insults, the shouting, the racism. I’ve never banned or censored anyone, I don’t call names or insult, I’m not a racist… yep: It’s pretty clear — you’re the proto-fascist. If you read the entirety of our oeuvre, you’ll see that we are the very essence of small “d” democrats. You might have to look that up.

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You said:

That’s why I’m closing this chapter, because you’ve proven that some people can’t be talked to, and don’t blame me just because you’re insecure enough to lash out at me and are desperate to have the final say no matter what. All it further shows is that you’re a scared, morally bankrupt man living in a fantasy world that’s way different than mine.

My Response:

More pop psychology from Doctor BW! And, again, you have no way of knowing whether I’m a man or a woman. And, again, it kind of demolishes the entire premise of this little rant of yours. 🙂

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You said:

Let me say this, and I’ll shut up. I’m proud to be black, but bring proud of what I am doesn’t mean I hate whites or anyone else, nor does it mean I have nothing else going on in my life. If you don’t understand why black people should be proud of their blackness, you know nothing about us and are too afraid to learn why.

My Response:

Just out of curiosity, why are you proud to be black? You had nothing to do with it. And I do understand why black people shouldn’t be proud of being black. It’s the same reason that white people aren’t proud of being white: they have nothing to do with it. Your blackness is an accident of birth, as is mine.

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You said:

You’re simply locked within your mindset and refuse to leave. So be it. Stay there if you wish. Respond to this if you want. (We both know you will.) But don’t demonize me or anyone else for it.

My Response:

Ummmmm… okay. Since I never demonize you one-one hundredth as much as you demonize me, I guess I’m not worried about the last part of your paragraph.

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You said:

Adios.

My Response:

Ummmmm… okay.

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You Said:

One other thing.

My Response

Yes…?

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You Said:

As for you calling black liberals a “grievance industry” and that we’re “paranoid” and “delusional”, you can go to hell. Like I said in my longer comment, you DON’T KNOW JACK [Juvenile obscenity removed] about what it means to be black in America, and you writing that you know more than black people themselves is laughable if not disgraceful.

My Response

That’s a whole lot of defensiveness for someone who’s not part of a grievance industry! And you don’t know JACK [Juvenile obscenity removed] about what I know, or what color my skin is, which demolishes the basic premise of your silly rant. Gee… I wonder where I’ve heard that before! Your being so presumptuous as to pretend to know what I know or don’t know is laughable if not disgraceful.

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You Said:

You don’t know ANYTHING about what it means to be black, especially in America. You can read all the books by black authors, watch all the TV shows, movies and plays produced, written, directed and starring black people and listen to all the music by black people all you want. YOU STILL WON’T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT US. Even more apparent is that YOU DON’T WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT US, especially if it disturbs your worldview, limited as it is.

My Response

Dude: what if I’m black?

And stop trying to tell me what I know or don’t know, or want to know, or don’t want to know. BW, it’s so stupid! Why do you keep doing it?

Oh, and guess what: You don’t know what it is to be black in America either. Obviously. You know only what it is to be you in America. Your blackness confers no special wisdom on you. Not one teeny, tiny bit.

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You Said:

I don’t know if you’ve learned it from a conservative source or it magically appeared in your mind, but black people, by and large, are not out to get white people. We’re not seeking revenge for slavery or anything like that. We want equality, fairness, appreciation, respect and dignity and we want to – wait for it – SAVE YOUR SOULS!

My Response

Much of that is true. You said: “black people, by and large, are not out to get white people.” That’s true. It’s the ones who are out to get white people who are a problem. 🙂 Oh, and you should never speculate about where people learn things. It’s irrelevant. If what I think is so stupid, it should be really easy to prove me wrong. Why don’t you try it? Given how much you hate me, I’d think you’d really like to prove me wrong. I appreciate the effort to save white people’s souls, BW, but you should try to save their souls for something they’ve done wrong.

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You Said:

I write about racism NOT to demonize white people even though folks like you get under my skin. It’s to fight against an unjust world that continues to give my people hell just for being born with dark skin. It’s not a [Juvenile obscenity removed] paranoid delusion, and it’s not a call for a race war, moron. And don’t you dare bring that you-know-what as “proof” to the contrary, because that doesn’t fly. IT NEVER DID! It further shows how fragile and a wimp you are for refusing to open your mind to hear and listen.

My Response

Dude: many, many times you’ve said that all white people are racists. Are you really trying to tell me that you’re not trying to demonize people you consider racists? Really, dude? And, yes, your idea that America is racist against black people is a delusion. I’ve proven it to you many times. If America were anti-black, then you should be able to point to argument after argument after argument after argument after argument that would disprove my “five things.” Since you’ve never even bothered to try to disprove the “five things,” then you’re tacitly admitting that they’re true. If the “five things” are true, then there’s no escaping the inevitable conclusion: Anti-black racism is not a big problem in America. Sorry. There’s just no getting away from it, no matter how much you try to deflect with all your silly bluster and ranting. “Fragile and a wimp,” BW? Really? You’ve already called me stupid and a liar… Are you really trying to scold me for not being “civil?” 🙂

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You Said:

Plain and simple, you simple lack empathy. YOU DON’T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE. You don’t care if we’re insulted, beaten, imprisoned or murdered, especially if the incident points to racism. And you have the nerve to berate me about black-on-black crime? You don’t even care how racially charged that term is, and I bet you haven’t put in one fraction of an effort to fight against violence in the black community. I even bet you’re too scared to even go to a black neighborhood.

My Response

More Doctor BW pop psychology. Dude: you’re a graphic artist, not a psychologist. You should stop pretending you are one. I do know that black people are beaten and murdered more than other people — by other black people. It’s kind of the crux of this “discussion.” You don’t allow others to talk about it, and you call it racism, and because of that, you’re an accomplice in the murder of other black people. You know it and you’re ashamed of it. It’s the reason for the ultra-defensive tone of this silly screed of yours. You’re right about one thing: I don’t care how “racially-charged” the term black-on-black crime is. It exists, and people are dying, and I don’t give the tiniest hoot about hyper-sensitive jackasses who are unwilling to listen to others who want to help. Lastly, of course, you’d have no way of knowing how much effort I’ve put into fighting against violence in the black community. AND, you don’t even know whether I live in a black community or not! You do write the dumbest things! Dude: Proofread AND… THINK!!! Try it sometime.

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You Said:

This is just speculation, of course, but judging how you see black people according to your blog, unless they’re conservatives, you’re afraid of us. You sound like the kind of white person to call the cops of a black person if you see them sitting in a restaurant, having a barbecue in a public park or even selling non-illegal products on the street.

My Response

You’re right. Just speculation. Kind of dumb speculation too. First of all, because it’s racist speculation. Since you have no idea what color my skin is, and you’re assuming I’m white, you should be ashamed of yourself. Thanks to this last paragraph of yours, I don’t have to speculate on how you see white people. You just gave it away. You are a serious racist! You’re way more racist than any white person I’ve ever met! I’d never pretend that I know what anyone is thinking or feeling, or what he’d do merely because of the color of his skin! Wow, BW… that’s really bad! You really need to do something about this racism of yours.

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You Said:

Face it. You’re scared of the actual truth and reality. It’s obvious. It’s MORE than obvious. You’re just a frightened ignorant [Juvenile obscenity removed], and are not human enough to talk to.

My Response

Lol! Doctor BW strikes again! More pop psychology from the Doctor! You should really cut it out; you’re not good at it.

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You Said:

Maybe some day you’ll actually wake up and see how this isn’t a left or right thing, but I’m not holding my breath.

My Response

And again you quote… me!

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You Said:

If it seems like I’m pissed off at you and the things you spew, I am. It’s offensive and hurtful and only a true punk [Juvenile obscenity removed] [Juvenile obscenity removed] would deflect any accountability and would blame others for being harmed by your words. It seems that’s what you are and are proud of it. Words may not hurt you, but then again, you’d have to be a human being to feel pain. It seems you’ve given up being human, and frankly I don’t care. I don’t care about you or your phony baloney brand of conservatism that neglects personal responsibility, pro-life and all those other beliefs in favor of the Southern Strategy playbook of straight white male grievance and empowerment above everything else.

My Response:

Serious question: Why are you miffed? Because I disagree with you? It can’t be because of how I present my disagreement, because you’re one who HECKUVA lot more rude to me than I am to you.

By definition, if what I say is untrue, then it’s not offensive. Wrong, but not offensive. If it’s true, then it’s simply true. There can be no offense in the truth. It’s why I’m never offended by what’s said to me online, no matter how rude. You need to understand something really important, BW… and it’s a very adult concept: No one is offended by my words. You are offended only — at all times — by you. You choose to be offended. You an choose not to be offended. It’s the adult way. Being constantly offended by what someone else says is just… juvenile. Hence, since your being offended or not is — always — your choice, then there’s no possibility of deflection by me. I can’t deflect something that’s obviously your fault to someone else.

The whole “you’d have to be human” thing is a silly attempt at snark. It’s telling, though. The Left and the RGI are always trying to dehumanize those who disagree with them. The “Southern Strategy” nitwittery is just that… nitwittery. Please do try to be serious, BW. And, most of all, please try to stop blustering incoherently. I like you, BW, but when you fabricate silliness, like my being inhuman and “Southern Strategy” silliness, and “straight, white male grievance” codswallop, then you make an ass of yourself. In other words, the sooner you quit the truly ridiculous attempts at psychoanalysis, the better.

Oh, and by the way, this whole “Southern Strategy” and “white, male grievance” moronia is simply paragraph 93, Section 52 of the Brainless-Sheep-Of-The-Left-Wing-And-The-RGI” playbook. You should cut it out. It’s embarrassing to be debating against someone using such stupid “arguments.”

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You Said:

Then again, me talking about racism bothers the hell outta you. The fact there are black people and POC talking about and fighting white racism pisses you off. It’s not because it’s no longer a major issue. IT’S BECAUSE THE ISSUE IS TOO MUCH FOR YOUR TO TOLERATE FOR EVEN A SECOND THAT YOU WILL GO ON TIRADES AGAINST IT WHILE DENYING THAT IT TOUCHED A NERVE.

My Response:

Nope. Your talking about racism doesn’t bother me in the slightest. Your being wrong about racism is something to be fixed. That’s all. No nerves touched. Sorry. Particularly because white racism against black Americans is just not a major issue in America anymore. It could be a big issue for you, but it’s not for most black Americans, and your telling them that it is does a major disservice to all black Americans. You should be ashamed of that. Your part of the message that is helping to make life worse for all black Americans.

By the way, the ALL CAPS thing is an actual “tirade.” I’ve, obviously, been calm and cool. You should try it.

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You Said:

I would converse with you about the issue, but you made up your mind about what it is without so much as looking up the actual definition. Maybe you think it’s a leftist definition as well and is just wrong. Whatever. But the fact is NO ONE can talk to you about this issue, because YOU REFUSE TO LISTEN!!! Telling black people they’re wrong is NOT LISTENING! Telling black people what to think is NOT LISTENING! And that’s what you love doing. Yet, you wonder why we would be offended. WHY NOT LISTEN TO US WHY WE’RE OFFENDED AND STOP RUNNING YOUR [Swear deleted] PIEHOLE! YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING THAT’S NOT FROM THE NATIONAL REVIEW OR DRUDGE REPORT OR EVEN NPR. WHY NOT TALK TO BLACK PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT VIEWS THAN YOURS AND NOT INSULT THEIR INTELLIGENCE AND CLAIM HOW DELUSIONAL THEY ARE, ASSHOLE? WHY IS THAT SO [Juvenile Obscenity deleted] HARD FOR YOU TO DO? HUH?!? WHY!?

My Response:

Dude: I don’t wonder why you might be offended. You’re offended because you choose to be offended. That’s always true, at all times, every time you’re offended. AS to the rest about my listening or not, again, you couldn’t possibly have any idea whether or not I listen to anyone, and where I find my information. As for when I made my mind up, it took years of listening, studying, reading, listening some more, talking working, studying some more… over decades. And I did all that, especially, with black people with different views from my own. How do you think I got here? How do you think I know so much about black Americans, their lives and their histories? How do you think I know so much more than you about so many things? 🙂 Finally, in answer to your last question, since I’ve been studying and listening and researching and digging for decades, it’s, obviously, not difficult for me.

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You Said:

You’re scared to. You’re scared to realize how wrong you are all this time. You’re scared to know that racism IS still a big issue. You’re scared of black people not willing to kiss your white ass and instead, will tell you what’s REALLY going on outside your little bubble! You’re just a scared little white man pretending to be more than what you are and expect people to respect you even when you offend and treat them like crap.

My Response:

I’m not scared of any of this, BW. What would make you think that? Seriously. I’ve been doing nothing more than putting down thoughts on a blog. What is there to fear in that? This is just you doing the silly psychoanalysis thing again. And, again, you should give that up, and discuss rationally and politely. And, you should try to formulate an argument instead of simply launching a tsunami of insults at me. Your insults never bothered me before; what makes you think they’ll bother me now? Serious question. Unless this is all just a cathartic brain blast for you. If so, then I’m glad I could make you feel better. Oh, and I pretty much proved to you that white racism is not a big issue in America anymore. If you had something persuasive to counter that conclusion, surely you’d have presented it by now.

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You Said:

DON’T YOU DARE SAY OTHERWISE! People who ran into your comments and posts see it! Denial won’t help, and only makes you look more like a little [Juvenile Obscenity deleted].

My Response:

Okay. I’m willing to let other people look at our interactions, and see who’s rude and abusive to whom. Let’s examine your very next comment, shall we?

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You Said:

Yes, I call you names, because you had it coming. I’ve tried being nice and civil. You couldn’t return the same treatment. (NO! DON’T EVEN TRY TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE, BECAUSE I KNOW THE [Juvenile Obscenity deleted] TRUTH!) So, I’ll try to be as much of a [Juvenile Obscenity deleted] to you as you were to me and other black bloggers.

My Response:

Ahhhh… that’s why you call me names! Because I deserve it! I see now. Your friend “diaryofanegress” thinks I deserve to die a violent death. What other abuse do I deserve, BW, because I’ve disagreed with you online? Do I deserve to be mugged? To be horsewhipped? All because I disagreed with you? And because you dion’t like how I’ve disagreed with you? Do other people who disagree online deserve such abuse if they’ve had the temerity to disagree with you? You do it, you know. As soon as someone disagrees with you, you immediately accuse him of being a racist.

I have a better idea. How about never calling other people names at all? Kind of like how I do things? How ’bout that?

And, your attempts to “be nice and civil” weren’t bad, but why did you give them up?

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You Said:

The funny thing about it is that we’re just practicing free speech. Yet, you can’t respect our freedoms enough to be respectable and civil to us or our commenters. So, we blocked your [Juvenile Obscenity deleted], because you were TOXIC to our discussions. You brought nothing but race-denying [Juvenile Obscenity deleted] that has been heavily proven wrong by researchers. But like a typical narrow-minded fool, you reject truth, facts and reality and think we’re the ones who can’t tell fact from fiction.

My Response:

This is just a silly paragraph, with a bunch of silly bluster. However, there’s one part that requires a response: Obviously, I’ve never engaged in anything like “race-denying.” I’m going to have to interpret, and figure that you mean “racism-denying,” since it’s impossible to “deny” a race. And, again, for what the 1,000th time? I’ve never denied racism, just pointed out the obvious: it’s no longer a major problem in America today. I proved it to. You proved it for me too. By never advancing a single, solitary, credible argument against my points.

To your original point in this paragraph: it’s kind of a silly one, what with all the names you call me and the blustering you do in all your interactions with me. It would be disrespectful of me to to lie to you, so I don’t. I might have been toxic, because you were unable to react to me without being toxic yourself. However, again, that’s your fault, your choice. You choose how you are, and how you react to the disagreements of others.

BW: You do know, don’t you, that your entire screed here is an accusation against… yourself. You rant in ALL CAPS — something I’ve never done to you. You curse me out a lot — something I’ve never done to you. You swear at me — something I’ve never done to you. You hurl obscenity after obscenity after obscenity at me — something I’ve never done to you. Then you accuse me of being rude. Dude: you really need to think about what you write.

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You Said:

You think blacks, black liberals, are racist against whites is what white racists think. Like it or not, I’ve heard open racists say things exactly or similar to that, and that’s why I consider you no better than they are. Deal with it.

My Response:

Black leftists are racists. I don’t think it; they all but admit it. They don’t make any bones about it. Oh, they pretend that they’re the victims, and they make quite a good living at it, so they don’t want to lose the gravy train. It’s a gravy train that you help to make possible with your silliness, your eyes-closed, ears-blocked shouting. You’re funny trying to make me into a racist, even though you have no idea what color my skin is. You’ve also heard black Conservatives tell you that black leftists are racists. Why don’t you admit it? Why don’t you listen? Why don’t you listen to to what other people say who disagree with you? Your reaction to me sure proves that you don’t. Why don’t you try it?

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You Said:

We’re not living in a fantasy world. YOU ARE. You live in a reality where it’s hard to be a straight white male. You think accusing your demographic of everything wrong is racist. GET THE [Juvenile Obscenity deleted] OUTTA HERE WITH THAT WHITE FRAGILITY [Juvenile Obscenity deleted]!

My Response:

Maybe you should “get outta here” with all your racist assumptions about (1) my skin color, (2) what I think because of what you assume is my skin color, (3) my sex, (4) what you assume I think because of what you assume is my sex, (5) your racist refusal to hear or listen to other points-of-view. So… get outta here with all that! Ummm… okay?

Dude: Your problem isn’t that you live in a fantasy world, it’s that you live in a dystopian, imaginary world, filled with imaginary white devils, and made-up villains. I gather that your victimhood is a nice, comfortable sweater for you, but it’s all based on your imagination, and the lies that you appear to be swallowing uncritically.

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You Said:

I, for one, never blamed white people for everything wrong. For the millionth time, talking about and fighting white racism IS NOT RACIST. And even after I told you that, you’re too bullheaded to listen. Maybe it’s because I’m black with a mind of my own, and you prefer me calling you “Massa”. If that’s the case, GO TO HELL AND LIVE WITH YOUR SLAVEMASTER ANCESTORS.

My Response:

Lol! Your last ALL CAPS rant was just silly. Sorry, there are no “slavemasters” in my ancestry. Your problem isn’t that you’re black with a mind of your own, it’s that you appear to lack of a mind of your own completely.

You’re not a wolf, BW, you’re a sheep. Your problem is that you want me to call you “Massa.” Well, okay, I don’t mind. I’d have no problem whatsoever serving you. No problem whatsoever with you being my boss. Service to others is quite a good thing. I’d have no problem looking up to you, recognizing your artistic talent, for example. For another example, I’m quite a good artist, but I’ll bet you’re a better artist than I am. And my art is important to me! I respect your passion and your persistence. I don’t respect your closed-minded, racist, hateful stubbornness; but the flip-side of that coin is strength and tenacity, two very good things. I’ll bet you’d be a very, very good man to have around in, for example, a fire. Or an earthquake. Now, if you could apply that tenacity to good things, instead of your racism… Edison said something like, “Genius is 1% inspiration, and 99% perspiration.” You have the 99% part down, but you need some real inspiration to replace the lies that you, again, appear to swallow uncritically.

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You Said:

Again, I wish I could have an open conversation with you about this. I don’t want a debate, because you can’t debate what’s true. It’s as stupid as debating someone who says that water is wet. But it seems like winning arguments matter more to you than having a talk with someone who thinks differently than you. I question how old you are, because you sound like a spoiled child.

My Response:

Lol! Silly snark, BW. Water is, indeed, wet. I’m pretty sure we can agree on that. However, the fact is that white hostility toward black people is simply not a big problem in America today anymore. And, if that’s untrue, then you should be able to point to persuasive arguments that would counter that conclusion. Otherwise, you need to move on from your silly stubbornness, and admit that what I’ve said is true. Yes, I do understand that it’s scary to debate things you think you’ve understood for a very long time, but that’s the path of real growth.

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You Said:

Black people who discuss and fight racism don’t do this out of some sense of happiness. WHY THE BLOODY HELL SHOULD WE BE HAPPY THAT RACISM IS STILL AROUND??? AND IT IS ON SEVERAL LEVELS!! We don’t do this to undermine white society, and this is not out of revenge. We do it to save ourselves and those who have the racist mindset. That’s why we talk about it. That’s why we fight.

My Response:

Except that white racism isn’t a big problem in America today. It’s about like getting all hot and bothered and passionate and enraged about… jaywalking. Yes, there are individual, isolated incidents of white racism in America, and they need to be condemned every time they happen. Like jaywalking.

It would be nice if white people weren’t the only ones condemning racism in America today. Because they do, you know. White people are always the very first ones to condemn incidents in which other white people harm non-white people. But, when black people harm whites, read this well, BW: almost no black people ever condemn that. Oh, they make excuses, sure enough. We all have to “understand“, you see. We have to “put the violence into context.” We have to “realize that the perpetrators are victims themselves.” Except, of course, black Conservatives, who are always right there with the white people — condemning all racism.

Yes, BW, I offered you many, many opportunities to condemn racism from black people. Remember what “diaryofanegress” said? I offered you countless opportunities to disavow it, and to disavow your initial support for her sentiment. You never, ever, not even once, took me up on it.

No, BW, you’re not “fighting racism,” you’re a major supporter of it.

You like your own racism, you just don’t like other racism. You want to have racism all to yourself. Racism surely is still around… all around. And it’s coming from people who think like… you.

Look, I don’t blame you… you’re inundated daily with a bunch of ridiculous codswallop which, if you never choose to examine it in greater depth, will indoctrinate you into a certain state of mind. What I do blame you for is choosing to refuse to listen to reasonably-presented opposing points-of-view. Choose not to refuse to open your mind, BW. 🙂

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You Said:

We also know good and well about the progress made. We’ve made great strides in our history through oppression. WE KNOW THAT! BUT WE STILL HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO, AND IT WILL ONLY MOVE FASTER IF THOSE WHO BENEFIT THE MOST WOULD FIGHT ALONG WITH US! NOTHING BUT FACT!

My Response:

Of course. However, I’ve never seen you make mention in your blog — not even once — of all the progress that’s been made. Can you point me to something like that? If you can’t then, I’m afraid that your assertion that you “know good and well about the progress made” lacks credibility. You don’t have to post anything that I want you to post, but what you post is a window into your thinking. As you’ve insisted what I post is a window into what I think. You have endorsed assertions that all white people are racists. You’ve endorsed assertions that all white people are racists because they’re white. You’ve even endorsed a fantasy by a friend in which all white people on the face of the earth die a gruesome, violent death. Your screed above lacks credibility.

As far as “having a long way to go” is concerned, we all have a long way to go. But the only way to make real progress is to know the correct direction to take, and to identify correctly the problems in this country. You, however, have, time and time and time again, made reckless, irresponsible, false assertions that are little more than what the frauds of the Left and the goons of the Race Grievance Industry have been saying for a very long time. If you continue to act and write things based on lies and frauds, then you make a kind of progress… backward. You’ve been advocating ideas and thoughts that represent backward “progress” for a long time.

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You Said:

Yet, you rather listen obediently to conservatives that would tell you different. And yet, you call us sheep.

My Response:

Lol! Says the guy whose very thoughts and beliefs I predicted, one-by-one-by-one-by-one, getting each and every one exactly right. No, dude, you are the sheep. Either embrace, or do the right thing, and reject it.

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You Said:

It’s obvious NONE of what I said will reach you in any way. You’re beyond reason. You rather live in a false reality. You rather take the blue pill than the red one. You’ve shown it without a doubt countless times. And you’ve shown why you and your blog is part of the problem.

Shifting blame to me won’t help. Sitting on your [Juvenile Obscenity deleted] in front of the computer and bashing the left won’t help. Praising people who repeat your “conservative” sentiments won’t help. It’s apparent that you don’t want help. But you surely need it.

My Response:

Ahhhh, the famous BW insults! I’m crazy! I’m stupid! I’m a liar! I need help! And, of course… I’m not nice. 🙂

Seriously, dude… try to be serious. I mean it. The problems black Americans face in America today are real. They’re serious, whether you choose to be or not. You need to stop obsessing over fabrications and lies, and get serious.

This post, like the other ones, is a long, interesting read, but it was not serious. I wish you’d take your considerable passion and tenacity and stop directing it at fake stuff.

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You Said:

I can only assume that you’ve held this mindset for so long, it’s become comfortable, and you don’t want to let it go for anything. You’re used to it to the point where anything different threatens your peace. You came to my and Abagond’s blog, saw something you didn’t like and went on the attack. Ultimately, we banned you for what you’ve said and how demeaning it was.

My Response:

Why bother speculating on how long I’ve “held this mindset.” You can’t know it, and you wouldn’t believe me if I told you, so it’s just silly. You and Abagond banned us because you couldn’t produce any persuasive evidence to counter the things we said. You were, and are, both cowards. And proto-fascists.

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You Said:

But you want to tell yourself that it wasn’t the reason. You prefer to think that it was because you’re white. You prefer to think that you were civil to us. You prefer to think that you were the victim of anti-whiteness. That’s what you think to keep from disturbing your peace.

My Response:

I, of course, never said anything like that. Nor did my colleague. And, as for speculating on what we were thinking, again, that’s just useless and really stupid speculation. I was a lot more civil with you, then you all were with me. That’s just a simple, and obvious, fact. 🙂

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You Said:

Even now, as you read this, you think I’m trying to read your mind. Everything I’ve said in regards to racism and how you think about it, you have problems with it, and from the comments and posts you write, it has NOTHING to do with facts. You want what you’ve taken in to be fact for reasons only you have. But the fact is that you’ve blatantly disregarded our views, discounted any and all facts, truths and even data presented and proceeded to condemn us and insult our intelligence even when we tried to be civil. Granted, not all of us were peaceful, but you need to realize the simple life lesson that it was YOUR WORDS THAT RESULTED IN THE RESPONSES YOU’VE GOTTEN! YOUR WORDS! That is what personal responsibility is all about, something you DON’T practice!

My Response:

Wow! Look: all the hundreds of times you’ve tried and failed to tell me what I’m thinking and feeling in all your posts and you chastise me for telling you not to read my mind? Dude: it’s your modus operandi! It’s your stock-in-trade! It’s the premier tactic of the Left, and it’s always, always, always an illegitimate tactic. It’s the tactic of cowards, or of bullies, or of fascists, or… of those who have no arguments to counter other arguments. How about this: it was always wrong for you to and your friends to insult us, to call us racists, to speculate on our skin color, our intelligence, our education, our integrity, our truthfulness, on our very value as human beings. How about that? You and your friends were always wrong to do that. Always. We never did anything to you except to disagree with what you posted. We never once questioned your intelligence, your honesty, your integrity, your truthfulness. Not even once. Go ahead and re-read anything you want. It wasn’t our words that got us in trouble with you, it was your racism, your baseless assumptions, your friends’ racism, ‘diary’s’ evil, your immaturity. All that was on you. All of it. No one ever condemned either your or our friends. We did condemn your admitted racism, and we did condemn what you said and what you did… because it was bad. And stupid. And racist. And the entire stinking mess of it was worthy of condemnation. So we did you a favor and condemned it. Because to lie to you and to tell you that the crap you said was good would have been a hostile act. We’re nice folk here, and we don’t do hostile acts, even to people who were as much jerks to us as you were. So, bottom line in this little bit here, IT WAS YOUR IMMATURITY AND YOUR RACISM THAT RESULTED IN THE RESPONSES WE’VE GOTTEN! YOUR IMMATURITY! (Just trying to speak in a way you’ll understand. 🙂 )

Furthermore, I’ve never under any conditions disregarded or ignored anything you or your friends have ever said. As you know, I respond completely and comprehensively. The very, very last thing you get to accuse me of is of ignoring or disregarding what you and your friends say. And if you and your friends tried to be civil, you sure didn’t try very hard. The very moment we were interacting with you, both you and your friends were accusing us of being a racist white man. Don’t you remember? It was immediate.

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You Said:

I can empathize hearing and reading something that leaves you feel uncomfortable. But you made it harder on yourself by not only rejecting it but insult the people who say it. That is what I told you that you REALLY DON’T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE OR THE LIVES THEY LIVE, ESPECIALLY IF THEY DON’T SUIT WHAT YOU THINK IT IS!

My Response:

Nope. You can’t. Empathize with people who hear uncomfortable things, that is. As soon as you heard things that made you feel uncomfortable, you immediately launched into the Leftist’s Bail-Out Bag of Tricks — “You’re a racist white male!” you all said. “You’re a liar!” “You’re stupid!” “You’re brainwashed!” (That last one was funny.) And so many more. No, you are not able to empathize with people who are feeling uncomfortable at something someone says. That much is obvious. However, nothing you have ever said has ever made me uncomfortable, so it’s nothing you have to worry about anyway. And, of course, we here insulted no one. You were, and are, the ones doing the insulting. We do, here, tell the truth about what you and your friends write. If it’s stupid, we’ll tell you that. You’re welcome.

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You Said:

I’ve NEVER objected that there wasn’t some progress, BUT I WILL NOT SIT HERE AND AGREE THAT RACISM IS NO LONGER A BIG ISSUE WHEN IT’S NOT WHAT REALITY SHOWS US! It’s a reality that my people deal with. We try to live, work hard, stay out of trouble, go to school, all of that stuff you were taught were instructions on how to achieve the American Dream, and many of us have succeeded in ways our ancestors never dreamed.

My Response:

And yet you’ve never even once produced a teentsy-weentsy scintilla of anything to support your assertion that “reality shows us that racism continues to be a big issue.” I’d think that if it were a big issue, then you’d be able to produce something persuasive to indicate it.

I appreciate that you agree that vast progress has been made. What you need to realize is that the big battles are over. You don’t need to fight against an opponent that doesn’t exist anymore. Yes, there are little, tiny pockets of racism all over America, but anti-black racism just isn’t a big problem anymore.

Anti-white racism, on the other hand, is a big problem, and you’re part of that problem. You can be part of the cure too, by recognizing that far from being a bunch of racists, white Americans are the least racist group of people on the planet. They are the ones who defeated slavery, who examined their own behavior, and found it wanting… and then did something — something big — about it. They launched an ongoing campaign to educate themselves, and anyone within earshot, about how wrong they were, and about how they wanted to atone for it. And they turned over trillions upon trillions of dollars to try to atone for it. And they even elected a black President! A total doofus, but they elected him because he was black. Because they wanted a black President, and they wanted to give real power to a man because he was black. They wanted to give real power to a black man, and they did. And they’ve been giving power, real power to thousands upon thousands upon thousands of black men and women for decades ever since.

More to the point, they’ve been ensuring that there’s plenty of opportunity for black people to take power for themselves. Your pretense that that all hasn’t happened is disgusting. It’s an insult to the really hard work that so many people — white people as much as, or more than, anyone — have done to ensure that all Americans have an equal chance at a good life in this the greatest country that’s ever been.

What whites turned over to black Americans is many, many, many times more valuable — in purely monetary terms — than was taken from the slaves. Yes, yes, yes, I understand, what they took was of much more than monetary value but, tragically, no one is able to return that to the ones from whom it all was stolen. But they can do what they can to make it right, now… and they have been doing so for three generations. Now, purely and simply, there are no more obstacles in front of black people than there are in front of anyone else.

Yes, there are obstacles that are predominantly in the path of black people, but all the obstacles added together are no more than those in front of any other people in America. That’s a simple truth, and that’s a truth against which you’ve never been able to raise a remotely persuasive counter-argument.

What you said at the end of your paragraph above is true: “many of us have succeeded in ways our ancestors never dreamed.” BW: How do you think that happened? Don’t overthink it. The answer is very simple: Because it was possible for it to happen in America. White people made that happen by making it possible for black Americans to take their power and wealth.

And, as you’ve always said, it’s white people who are the dominant demographic in America today. That means — inescapable conclusion — white people have made it possible for black Americans to prosper.

Whether you like it or not, you can’t possibly escape that conclusion. It’s your own words that prove it! You’re the one who said that white people control America. You’re the one complaining about all the power that white people have. Well, if that’s true, then every time black people obtain power, it’s because white people are making it possible for them to do so.

Again, you can’t escape that conclusion, because your arguments are the ones that make it unavoidable. Whether you like it or not, you constantly argue against yourself.

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You Said:

BUT that doesn’t erase the racism we still have to deal with. No matter how much money we have, how clean our police record is, how high our education has been, it will still not prevent us from the fear and hatred directed at us just for being within eyesight of color-aroused people who would either call the cops on us or shoot us themselves. No, it’s not just white people who have these fear and hatred. But it’s nonetheless terrifying that it’s all around us even in the year 2018.

My Response:

You really need to stop with the silly, made-up terms. “Color-aroused people” is just such a stupid term. Anyway, outside of that moronic term, this was your best paragraph so far. This is, however, where I think you’re imagining things. Never has any single people had more benevolent feelings toward any group than white Americans have toward black Americans. Yet, you focus on those few white people who have irrational negative thoughts and feelings toward black people. Next, black Americans — read this well — have to stop with the violence. A very real problem is that so many black Americans are making the negative feelings of the few white people into self-fulfilling prophecies. You feel justified in blaming the crimes of a few white people on all white people. Remember when you said my ancestors were “slavemasters?” Without even knowing me, but merely assuming that I’m white. Look at all the things you’ve told me that I think, that I feel, that I want, that I know or don’t know. You can’t then whine about it when others do the same thing. You really do spend nearly all your time arguing against yourself, BW.

And… I don’t think that there is all that hatred and fear directed at you because of the color of your skin. It’s certainly not being directed at you in general in America. Maybe you live in a bad neighborhood, where there are pockets of hostility directed at you. In that case, why not take Kevin Williamson’s advice and get the heck out? Seriously. Don’t like the neighborhood, get out! You’d be joining how many billions of others who simply said, “Let’s get the heck out of here, and go to a more congenial place.” I’ll challenge you with this simple fact: Every single black person I’ve ever known — family, friends, acquaintances — has had the occasional trouble, but no more nor less than anyone else.

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You Said:

WE’RE GENUINELY [Obscenity deleted] SCARED FOR OUR LIVES, XPRAETORIUS!!! WHY IS THAT SO HARD TO HEAR FOR YOU TO MAKE US FEEL SMALL BASED ON WHAT YOU CONSIDER IS “FACT” WHICH IS NOTHING MORE THAN RACIST DENIAL AND CONDEMNATION??

My Response:

A heartfelt paragraph, BW, but still there are some problems with it. It is my policy to grant that what you say here is what you believe sincerely to be the truth. It’s why I almost never call anyone a liar. When you say that you’re scared for your lives, that, I believe, is the truth. The point is that all the facts say that you should fear for your safety from other black people. Sorry. It’s simply the truth. Or, as you prefer, a fact. No one is trying to make you feel small. And, of course, no one can make you feel small without your permission. Why on earth would you ever grant that permission to anyone?

It is hard for me to hear that you fear for your safety, and I hurt for you. Again, the real truth says that you have much, much, much more to fear from people who look like you than from white people. One more quick thing: you say “We’re scared for our lives.” That’s the crime of the Race Grievance Industry. In pointing you toward people who wish you only well, the RGI allows you to look away from the real dangers around you. That’s why it’s vastly more important that you enthusiastically endorse the idea that there should be more attention focusing on solving the problem, rather than less.

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You Said:

WHY???

My Response:

Because the truth is important.

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You Said:

I don’t know about Abagond or any other black blogger you label as leftist, but I was tired of your [Obscenity deleted]. So, you have to go from my blog, because not only was it toxic, it was NOTHING NEW AND NOTHING GENUINE. You need to face it sooner or later that your view of black people has a lot of falsehoods and it will do you NO GOOD listening to the wrong source who only tell you what you WANT to hear. That’s NOT how learning works. Telling black people they’re wrong about everything they go through is NOT how having a conversation works. That shows that you were NEVER interested in having one in the first place, but instead would like to chastise us for hating white people which is [Obscenity deleted]!

My Response:

Nope. We “had to go” because you were unable to counter what we were saying. We were messing up the vibe of your whiny, little echo chamber.

BW: You don’t get to tell me what’s genuine of what I say and what’s not. Got that? Good. Everyone’s views of all people are filled with a mix of falsehoods, truths, myths, false beliefs, correct beliefs, and more. That’s always true.

I suspect that I know more about black people’s lives than you do. Furthermore, you don’t get to tell me what the right and wrong sources are. You’re not Professor BW, you’re just a dude. You don’t even know what my sources are, so it’s just silly to pretend that you do. And, of course, you are the king of strawmen!

I never once said that “black people are wrong about everything they go through.” So, you can put that silliness to rest too. About your last sentence: Did ‘diaryofanegress‘ show how much she loves white people when she openly fantasized that they’d all die a violent death? Was “love” what you meant by that? Do you really think that she’s the only one who’s ever had that grotesque fantasy?

I’d point you to the new hard-leftist writer, Sarah Jeong for the New York Times. Her tweet was: “Oh man it’s kind of sick how much joy I get out of being cruel to old white men” Here’s another one of hers: “Are white people genetically predisposed to burn faster in the sun, thus logically being only fit to live underground like groveling goblins,” Ahhh, the love! Here’s some of the rest of her story: “The South Korea-born journalist, who was raised in the US, also used the hashtag “#CancelWhitePeople” and complained about ‘white people marking up the internet with their opinions like dogs pissing on fire hydrants’.

All that… love, BW!

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You Said:

Stop saying that we’re wrong all the time when we try to tell your stupid [Obscenity deleted] what’s going on with us! You could never fully understand what it’s like to be black in America. You could learn by listening to us, but you clearly don’t want to. Who’s fault is that???

My Response:

But what if you’re wrong all the time? Should I just lie to you? That would be a genuinely hostile act. Who’s this “us” you’re talking about? How do you know I’m not part of “us?” How do I become part of “us?” Do I have to have black skin? If so, then I listen to “us” al the time! Jason Riley, Charles Payne, Thomas Sowell… all have beautiful black skin, and I listen to them all the time too. Surely they’re part of “us” too, right? I mean that rich brown tone to their skin! They must be “us!” How disgusting would that be if they couldn’t be part of “us” merely because of their viewpoints?!?

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You Said:

But if you’re that stubborn and pig-headed that everything said was wrong and will proceed to insult my intelligence, then stop pretending how civil and open-minded you are when clearly you are ANYTHING BUT!

My Response:

Ummmm… silly, throwaway paragraph.

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You Said:

I’m not stupid as to not recognize [Obscenity deleted] when I see it. And if you try to [Obscenity deleted] me, you’re only making yourself look foolish. You can’t preach to me or anyone else about the truth WHEN YOU LIE TO YOUR [Obscenity deleted] SELF! That’s how the world works. I suggest you join it.

My Response:

Lol! Inept snark, BW. And another silly, throwaway paragraph.

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You Said:

In the worse case scenario, you’re probably reading this and are laughing [Obscenity deleted]. If so, you can [Obscenity deleted]. It shows how deplorable you really are. Again, that’s the worse case scenario. If you are truly avoiding other viewpoints while cradling your right wing values, that’s just as bad. That means you’ve chosen ignorance over intelligence. Whatever the case, you – AND ONLY YOU – have made yourself into a problem. Again, that was why you were booted from my blog. That was why you were booted from Abagond’s blog. We and our guests tried to talk to you. You didn’t want any of that. And you proceeded to berate us.

My Response:

I don’t laugh at you, BW. I treat you like an adult. I tell you the truth. I answer you completely and comprehensively. I give you the courtesy of an honest, complete answer every time. We’ll add “deplorable” to the list of insults. Quite a long list, BW! Names I’ve never called you, not even once. And you still accuse me of not being “civil.” You can be funny, BW. And, of course, we were “booted” from our blog because you were never able to locate a single, solitary persuasive piece of evidence or argumentation that countered our five points. Of course we had to be “booted!” We were embarrassing you in front of your racist friends! You and Abagond have quite a little following of truly racist people, and our arguments risked making them think a little, instead of blindly following their leaders. 🙂 You and your friends never tried to talk to us. You tried to make us out to be racists from the very beginning.

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You Said:

You can lay blame on the fact that we allow words to harm us. But only a true [Obscenity deleted] would victim blame. HELL YES! WORDS HURT! YOUR WORDS HURT! THEY HURT LIKE HELL, AND YOU DON’T [Obscenity deleted] OF THE HARM YOU’VE CAUSED!

My Response:

Nope. Words hurt if and only if you decide that they hurt. That’s it. If any words hurt you, that’s your fault. This is simply life 101. I’m sorry you’ve been hurt, BW, but your hurt is your own, and it’s the hurt that you caused yourself. If there’s harm, then it’s harm that you’ve caused to yourself. Believe me, I feel awful that any harm has come to you, but it’s all harm that you’ve caused to yourself. Dude: you’re in complete charge of your own feelings, and no one can hurt those feelings… unless you let them. This is also Life 101. It’s part of growing up. That’s the other crime that the Left and the RGI commit: they infantilize black people, and that’s disgusting. It’s real, genuine, cruel abuses of black people. BW, you’re not a victim of anything I’ve done to you, but you are a victim of the Race Grievance Industry and of its lies. You do realize, don’t you, that the RGI is not composed only of black people… it’s also full of racist leftist white people, and yes, those are the people against whom you should be “howling for justice.” The problem, though, is that you’re still one of them. You talk about saving white people’s souls. BW, you need to leave the RGI, lose your racism, get rid of your ugly generalizations against white people, who are generally overflowing with only the best wishes toward you, me and all our people, and you need to do all this to be on the right track to… save your own soul.

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You Said:

WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU?!

My Response:

Nothing, thanks for asking. At least nothing stemming from our interactions here.

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You Said:

You may not see it as racism, but it nonetheless hurtful when you tell black people, in any way, that they’re wrong about the world, their experiences, their pain and why they fight. You just don’t do that, xpraetorius! It’s not about silencing free speech. It’s about using that freedom in a responsible way, AND YOU CLEARLY WASN’T BEING RESPONSIBLE NO MATTER WHAT YOUR RIGHT WING MINDSET TELLS YOU!

My Response:

Dude: it’s not racism to be honest with you. It’s not hurtful to anyone to tell him anything. Unless, that is, he chooses for it to be hurtful. Then it’s his responsibility. I never told anyone they were wrong about their world or their experiences, only about what they’d concluded from those experiences. Your, or their, insistence that innocent people who haven’t done anything wrong to them are guilty all the same is wrong. Very, very wrong. And it’s bad. Just as bad as if a black person were to hurt a white person, and that white person were to blame all black people. That is, after all, what a whole lot of people have — correctly — complained about for a very long time. To do the very same thing you and so many others have condemned for so long is really bad, BW. It would have been irresponsible to lie to you, BW. I always told you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. And, there’s no such thing as a “right-wing” mindset… there are only points of view. They’re either headed in the right direction or in the wrong direction.

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You Said:

What black people go through is not a political issue. IT’S A [Swearing deleted] HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE! IT’S NOT A LEFT, RIGHT, DEMOCRAT, REPUBLICAN THING; IT’S A HUMAN RIGHTS THING!

My Response:

BW: everything is a political issue. I agree that black people’s lives are human rights issues. Congratulations for finally arriving at my conclusion! I’ve been saying that it’s not a right or left or black or white thing, but rather a human thing. You always got all mad when I’d say that. I’m glad you finally realize what I realized long ago. Black people aren’t special because they’re black, but because they’re people. That’s all. Nothing more, but nothing less either. People in full, and they should have all the rights and opportunities as everyone else has. I’m glad you finally agree with me.

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You Said:

ARE YOU TRULY THAT DENSE TO THE WORLD THAT YOU WOULD ARGUE THAT IN FAVOR OF YOUR ALLEGIANCE TO YOUR BRAND OF CONSERVATISM? ARE THE LIVES OF BLACK PEOPLE WORTH LESS THAN YOUR CONSERVATIVE VIEWS?

My Response:

Black lives aren’t worth less than anything. They’re precious. Obviously.

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You Said:

AND WHAT ABOUT WHITE LIVES?

My Response:

Uhhhh… they matter too. Just as much as black lives. Not more… but not any less either.

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You Said:

You haven’t said anything pertaining to mass shootings, at least not without blaming the left as if it’s somehow relevant to the problem more so than the lives of people lost.

My Response:

Dude, we have the equivalent content of more than 20 large books in our blog. We have talked about mass shootings. A lot. Look around you once in a while. It’s all right there. And, yes, the Left is the home of the vast majority of political violence in America. It’s been that way for more than a century. It’s okay to tell that truth.

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You Said:

If you disagree with the left, that’s cool. But you abhor the left. You concentrate more on hating the left than praising the right. You hate the left so much you can’t even fathom that it’s a part of American society whether you like it or not. Yet, you constantly demean them in virtually EVERY entry in your blog. If you don’t want to be a part of the left and not cosign with how they do things, that’s okay. But bashing them goes against tolerance, and shows that you probably don’t love this nation as much as you think.

My Response:

I don’t abhor the Left, or leftists, I abhor leftism. There’s a very, very big difference. You’re still doing your silly attempts at mind-reading, BW. Your last two sentences are illogical. I will say that it’s okay to bash public figures, especially those who are trying to harm Americans. There’s nothing wrong with that. In fact, it shows a real love of country to call out those who are trying to harm it, and therefore the people who inhabit it. As far as tolerance is concerned, there are things that are intolerable. There are people who are intolerable. Terrorists, rapists, assorted dirtbags. It’s okay to bash these half-wits. It’s okay not to tolerate them. There’s no good reason to tolerate the intolerable.

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You Said:

If there are black people that are on the left, they are no worse than blacks on the right or in the middle. Most are not stupid. Most are not oblivious to reality. Most don’t want revenge on white society for anything, and if one is, he(she) doesn’t represent us! And most truly love this country. That’s why they fight for progress. They want all blacks to be treated as equals. That is NOT exclusive from fighting for liberty and justice. Being treated with the same rights and privileges as white people are calls for both liberty and justice FOR ALL INCLUDING WHITE PEOPLE!

My Response:

Black people on the Left are worse than black people on the Right. Black leftists are, generally, with a few exceptions, bad people. Just like white leftists. They’re generally speaking, worse people than white rightists. They just are. Just as a black Nazi is worse than a black person non-Nazi. Nazism is bad. Adherents to Nazism choose to be bad, and so are bad. Leftism is bad, and those who choose to adhere to leftism are choosing to be bad. So they are bad. Simple as that. Oh, they might not know it, but they are. I don’t know if you remember, BW, but after World War II, we didn’t allow Nazi war criminals to mount a defense of their actions by insisting that they meant well, that they were just trying to do the right thing. We told them that they had to have known they were doing the wrong thing, and we convicted them of war crimes. Some of them we executed. (by the way, I don’t approve of execution or capital punishment) Yes, black leftists are bad people, because they’d like to do bad things to other people. It goes deeper than that too, but that’ll do for now. Most black leftists are pretty stupid, as are most white leftists. Why? Because leftism is an ideology of leaders and sheep. The leaders demand the unthinking obedience and credulity of their followers, and heaven help you if you were to step out of line! Yep. Most leftists of any color are generally stupid. They don’t have to be, of course… all they have to do is question some things, think for themselves. Don’t forget that stupidity on the part of many, many people is… a choice. It is true that many leftists, of any color, are stupid because they choose to be. They can choose not to be.

IMPORTANT: One point about the relative qualities of black leftists and black rightists. You and I have no problem calling KKK’ers bad people. Black leftists are essentially black Klansmen. Mindlessly, irrationally, stupidly racist. They do not, as you say, “love this country.” They want to bring it down, and they want to destroy the greatest accomplishment of humanity ever: liberal capitalism. Liberal capitalism is the one system that has brought prosperity to the massesnot only to the fortunate few — in the history of the world.

And the United States of America is the first country in the history of the world to have embraced — if incompletely — liberal capitalism.

Here’s another fact: Liberal capitalism, based as it is on the free, rational choices made by a free people in a free market — is completely antithetical to things like slavery, segregation, Jim Crow Laws, racial discrimination, sex-based discrimination, or any other discrimination that doesn’t pertain to one’s character as a person.

Those things all represent serious limits on the free choices of free people in a free market, and those limits are irrational. Such nonsensical interactions between people would never be able to survive as institutions in liberal capitalism, because other, freer people would out-compete them easily.

Slavery, for example, represents true equality of the people, under an élite class of ruling “masters.” Slavery is the real result of a system that brings about “equality” among the people. Slavery is Socialism, and Socialism is slavery. If you understand anything in life about economics and human interactions, BW, you should understand that.

Slavery? Jim Crow? Segregation? Race-based discrimination? Sex-based discrimination? All are doomed to extinction in the free market of liberal capitalism, because those discriminations  limit the freedom of the people to make free, rational choices. Racism itself is doomed to extinction in the free market of liberal capitalism. The only color consideration in such a system is: the green of money.

Now, before you go all “greed this,” and “income inequality” that, and “unequal distribution” the other thing, Liberal Capitalism is an economic system. Therefore its concern is the interaction of people in an economic sense, using its own unit of exchange: money. It is not a moral system, like Christianity. However, it is the best economic system to encourage morality — or to limit things like greed — in the people.

BW, you on the Left are always hollering about how rich people are greedy and want the middle class and the poor to have nothing. This is, of course, the opposite of the truth. Transparently, stupidly the opposite of the truth! If the middle class and the poor become poorer, as you claim the rich want, then the rich become poorer. Marx and the Left didn’t get everything wrong! They were right when they said that the middle class — the so-called bourgeoisie — and the working class — the so-called proletariat — were the engines of any economy, while the rich are the drivers. It’s their conclusions that are so tragically wrong, and have resulted so far in the deaths of tens and tens and tens of millions of innocent people.

Simply put, if the rich are the drivers of an economy, while the middle class and the poor are the engine, then the rich are a lot better off with a stronger engine, and they get richer if and only if the middle class and the poor are better off. Just like you and your car. If you drive a junky car, then you understand quite well that you’ll get where you’re trying to go faster, better, easier, more effectively… with a better, strongerhealthier car.

You on the Left are constantly complaining about the “rich getting richer, while the poor get poorer.Actual rich people, the ones who understand economics, would never tolerate such a situation. They understand that their wealth depends entirely on a healthy, prosperous middle class, which is constantly improving economically, and which is constantly growing as poor people become more wealthy and join the middle class. 

The only thing better for the rich than the poor getting richer is if there were no poor people at all, and if everyone were getting richer. Basic economics, Dude.

Furthermore, the rich understand how stupid things like race-based discrimination, sex-based discrimination, and other forms of irrational interactions harm their own chances to be even more prosperous. Such discriminations are the way to prevent one’s employees and companies from obtaining the best talent out there. If a brilliant black guy and a mediocre white guy both present themselves for the same strategically important position, the rich guy wants the brilliant black guy. Because he’ll help the rich guy do even better! Simple as that. Basic economics, Dude.

You on the Left then say that, no, the rich white guy is willing to lose the brilliant black guy because the rich guy is already rich and doesn’t have to hire the black guy. Yep. And guess what, the other rich white guy who hires the brilliant black guy, then out-competes the racist rich white guy — because he now has the brilliant black guy — and he teaches the racist white guy that his racism has a serious cost associated with it. A cost for which there’s no return. If a country allows enough such interactions to take place, then the rich, racist white guys suffer the consequences of their own stupidity, and become both not rich, and not racist. Those who don’t discriminate irrationally obtain the best talent, and weed both racism and irrational discrimination of any kind out of the system. Basic economics, Dude.

Guess who’s trying to get rid of liberal capitalism, the greatest engine against irrational discrimination of any kind. Yep. The American Left. They’re admitted Socialists. The loony Bernie Sanders wing of the Democrat Party is taking it over, as we’ve long predicted it would, and is doing its level best to abolish capitalism. The make no bones about it.

So, yes, black leftists are worse people than black Conservatives.

It doesn’t have to mean that they’re always bad people, just while they’re leftists. I was a leftist once too. The ranks of black Conservatives are chock full of black Americans who started out as leftists and, through study, realized the stupidity of leftism, and joined the Right. These are the best and brightest Conservatives, because they’re by far the most courageous, the best educated, the best informed, the wisest. Why? Because they’ve been of the Left and, having studied it up close, they’ve learned in intimate detail the differences between the Left and the Right, and they’ve recognized the vast superiority of Conservatism.

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You Said:

BOTTOM LINE: THEY DO NOT WANT “FREE STUFF” OR TO ONE-UP WHITE PEOPLE! THEY WANT THE RIGHTS, TREATMENT AND PRIVILEGES THAT ARE AFFORDED TO WHITE PEOPLE DUE TO AN EXTENSIVE HISTORY OF WHITE RACISM! DON’T YOU GET IT?

My Response:

Incorrect. Yes, there is a long history of racism. Of the racism of all races directed toward all other races. And, yes, there is a long history of white racism in America. However, the continuing story of black racism in Africa directed especially toward white people or any origin, makes that first sentence of mine important. Here’s the deal, BW, in order for progress to be made you have to be better people. You have to reject bigotry, prejudice… racism. Yes, white people will become a minority in America, and non-white people will be able to impose their political structures on all the land. Read this well, BW, if, as you’ve said, racism requires “power,” then when non-whites are holding power, they’ll be no better than whites have been at their worst. Why do I say that? Simple: white people defeated racism. Oh, it’s not entirely gone, but as far as being an important force in the thinking, planning and strategies of white people, it’s gone. Dead and gone. No one grants the tiniest bit of credibility to the tiny — and becoming tinier! — pockets of white people who espouse racist positions.

And yes, the RGI wants free stuff? How do I know that? Simple: they took it when offered it. They lobbied for it, and they got it from their people in the Democrat Party. They don’t want “TREATMENT AND PRIVILEGES THAT ARE AFFORDED TO WHITE PEOPLE“, they want much more than that. They want wealth handed to them, and they’ve gotten it. They demanded it and got it… trillions and trillions of dollars worth. That’s in the public record, dude. Well-established fact. Yes, yes, yes… you can say “more single, white women” and all that, but that’s simply the Feminist Grievance Industry. You do recall, don’t you, when the RGI realized that they weren’t the only grievance industry around? When a whole passel of people realized that there was just a whole passel of free money and power to be sucked out of taxpayers by whining about just how horrible it is here in America?

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You Said:

WE SIMPLY WANT TO WALK INTO A PUBLIC PLACE LIKE A STORE OR RESTAURANT AND SHOP, EAT AND TALK WITHOUT HAVING THE COPS CALLED ON US. WE WANT TO GO INTO A STORE AND NOT BE SUSPECTED OF STEALING ANYTHING. WE WANT TO SEE MORE AND FAIR REPRESENTATIONS OF US IN ALL FORMS OF MEDIA. WE WANT OUR CULTURE TO BE RESPECTED AND NOT USED AS COSTUMES, PROPS ARE ELEMENTS TO BE FEARED. WE WANT TO BE HIRED BASED ON OUR QUALIFICATIONS AND NOT ON OUR LOOKS AND NAMES. WE WANT THE POLICE TO PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND NOT SEE US AS THREATS TO THE PUBLIC JUST BECAUSE OF OUR SKIN COLOR. AND WE’RE BUSTING OUR [Obscenity deleted] TO PULL OURSELVES UP BY OUR BOOTSTRAPS TO ESTABLISH OUR OWN WAYS OF LIFE AND PROSPER LIKE ANYONE ELSE.

My Response:

This is a tougher one. These are all perfectly reasonable desires. To achieve them, it’ll require understanding certain things. One of the most important of those things is the following: Thirteen percent of the people in America commit slightly more than half of all the violent crime in the nation.

Whether anyone wants to admit it or not, that fact hangs over all interactions between black Americans and everyone else. And it poisons those interactions.

It’s a brutal fact of life, and black people are solely responsible for it. No one else, no history of anything, no institutional this, or systemic that, forces a Michael Brown to go into a store, strong-arm the clerk, then charge at a police officer. Those were his choices alone, and he could have chosen not to do all that. He didn’t.

Black Americans in the inner-city don’t have to join gangs. They can leave the cities. They’ll go out into suburbs that will welcome any people in who are willing to work hard and be decent Americans.

I know you disagree with that, but it’s true. Your disagreement stems from all the propaganda that the RGI has been spouting for decades. That’s another crime of the RGI against black Americans. It’s a simple fact that the RGI’s abuse hits black people the hardest.

I agree with your thought about costumes and props, but there are just as many costumes and props of white people — more. Heck, the most popular “scary” costume this Hallowe’en will be, and you and I know this… Trump. A white dude.

To get the police to protect your neighborhoods, you have to help them. Again, a simple fact is that the police are on edge more in “bad neighborhoods.” If most of those bad neighborhoods are populated by minorities, then you have to understand that bad neighborhoods beget tense policemen, which beget bad policing.

You have to police yourselves more, and then the police will be better police. Let’s face it: mostly white neighborhoods — regardless of their socio-economic status — tend not to be dangerous neighborhoods. Simple fact.

Look, that statistic — 13% of people commit 50+% of all violent crime — hangs over, and poisons, everything. If when the police go into a bad neighborhood, they believe that even the ones they’re trying to protect, view them with hostility, then they’re going to have trouble being good cops.

Dude, they’re just humans too! If they drive into a bad neighborhood, and believe that there’s nothing but hostility being directed at them from all directions, then how are they supposed to be good cops?

Yes, I see the parallels with what you’ve been saying, but the so-called hostility directed toward you because of the color of your skin is mostly imaginary. Not entirely, but mostly. Your friends atop the leadership of the RGI have been poisoning the relationship between black people and the police for decades now. The hostility the police feel in black neighborhoods is real. Black people in the RGI have been vilifying the police for so long, that such a feeling on the part of the police is inevitable.

Stopping all that will require the efforts of people like you to reject the propaganda coming from the top of the RGI. If you don’t openly reject it, then you are an accomplice in the deaths of black Americans. Sorry. That’s just how it is. If you’re helping to prevent real solutions to the problem of violence on the part of black Americans toward other black Americans, then you’re an accomplice.

That’s why your efforts to silence those who might offer constructive solutions is such a terrible thing.

This is everyone’s country, dude. If you’re harming a portion of this country, then you’re harming all of it, and you have no moral right to try to forbid anyone from talking about it. More to the point, you have a moral obligation to seek out other perspectives! Especially from those who are outside of it all, as you insist white people are.

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You Said:

CAN YOU HONESTLY SAY THAT YOU’VE EXPERIENCED ANY OF THAT AND MORE BASED ON YOUR EUROPEAN-BASED FEATURES? IF SO, WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU BERATE BLACK PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCE THIS AND MORE? WHY THE [Obscenity deleted] WOULD YOU CONTINUE TO INSULT US AND TELL US INSENSITIVE THINGS LIKE HOW SLAVERY BROUGHT MY PEOPLE TO AMERICA FROM AFRICA, OUR HOME, TO LIVE BETTER LIVES OR HOW THERE WERE MORE WHITE SLAVES THAN BLACK SLAVES OR ANY OTHER KIND OF CRAP THAT WOULD LIKELY APPEAR ON A RACIST HATE SITE?

My Response:

Lol! Again, you don’t know what race I am. You bave no idea what my “features” are like. Furthermore, you have no idea what I’ve experienced. Furthermore, it’s all irrelevant. If what I say is true, then it’s true. Pure and simple. No need to try to deflect from that, or to bring silly irrelevancies into the discussion. If what I say is true, then it’s true. Why don’t you try to deal only with what I say?

And, again, if you re-read all our interactions, you’ll see that I’ve never “berated” anyone. You need to be much more careful with your language. You often choose wrong or stupid words that are easy to debunk. I don’t berate. Obviously. I keep a steady, polite style that eliminates the ability of any opponent to claim that I’m berating, or yelling at, or “screaming” (your word) at anyone.

Yes, I call out people like “diaryofanegress,” because there was no excuse for what she said. But, I never berated anyone, merely pointed things out. I should have berated “diary…” because she’s an ugly racist dirtbag. There’s simply no excuse for fantasizing about the violent death of more than a billion men, women and children. Her post continues to represent a serious stain on her soul, as well as on yours since you endorsed her sentiment on your blog.

It’s a fact that slavery was the best thing to happen to… today’s black Americans. I never said that it was so that the slaves themselves could lead a better life, but it’s pretty obvious that it was the best thing to happen to today’s black Americans. Yes, it’s a blunt, insensitive thing to say, but as Ben Shapiro says, “facts dont care about your feelings.” I dare you to give me one reasonable argument, or reasonable facts against the conclusion. And the fact that you don’t like it doesn’t count. It’s an obvious truth.

Now, you could, of course, reverse it all and go back to Africa… Do a thought exercise with me. Let’s say that the government offered you a million dollars — making you instantly prosperous — on the condition that you renounce your American citizenship and go live elsewhere. Not in Canada, by the way. 🙂 Would you do it? Anywhere else in the world is fine. Yes, it’s a trick question. Why? Any answer you give me — except to Africa — will prove my point. And only a crazy man would move with a million bucks to Africa, where his life expectancy would immediately drop by twenty years. If he answered that he’d go to Norway, or Switzerland, or France, then he’d say that he’s embracing Western (white) civilization, the very foundation of… America. He’d never go to Asia, where racism is generally accepted as a natural part of the human condition. Australia or New Zealand? Yep… based on Western civilization. Essentially “little England.” How about South America? Same thing as Arica… a man can take his life in his hands in moving to South Americas. Face it, BW, if the government were to offer you a million bucks to renounce your American citizenship — heck, let’s say 10 million bucks, making you very rich — and if you were to take that offer, I’d be willing to bet 10 million bucks that you’d pick some place to move to that would resemble America the most. Go ahead, do the thought exercise. You don’t have to tell me the results, you can keep them to yourself. I already know the answer anyway. I know it not because I can read your mind, but only because you’d be a blithering idiot not to choose some place like America with 10 million bucks in your hands. Got that out of the way.

Next: about the “more white slaves in Africa during the time of slavery than there were black slaves in America,” … dude: you admitted it was true. I gave you the source, and you admitted it… in these pages! I’m not going to look it up, because… it happened only a short while ago!!! It’s historical fact, and you know it, and… you admitted it!!! Sheesh! 🙂 Bottom line on that topic: the “racist hate site,” what you’re talking about is… your words.
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You Said:

WE’RE DOING WHAT YOU PREACH TO US TO DO, BUT WHEN WE SUCCEED, WE’RE SUSPECT. SO, WHAT THE HELL???

My Response:

Bravo, BW! Now, that is your best passage so far!!!

You’re absolutely right. And you can thank your faux friends in the RGI and on the Left for that! They’re the ones who set up things like “Affirmative Action” and set-asides in hiring and academic admissions for black people, making it inevitable that those black Americans who do succeed, are potentially viewed with suspicion?

Was he an… ‘Affirmative Action’ hire?” “Did they hire her so that the grievance groups couldn’t come around and say they’re discriminating?” “Is she a ‘twofer’?” All these questions result from the Race Grievance Industry’s efforts — and the Democrat Party’s complicity — to get things like reduced standards for college admissions, and hiring quotas and the like.

Now, everyone knows that academia is filled with admissions quotas, that they exclude Asians even when they have very high grades and test scores, that American corporations hire minorities to avoid lawsuits from the likes of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. No one debates these things anymore. There’s even a case before the U.S. Supreme Court as we speak in which the college in question admits that they lower standards for black applicants, and discriminate against Asians with high test scores… and demands the right to continue to do so. In the interest of “diversity,” of course. Everyone knows all that, and if I were you, I would take offense!

You’re right to take offense at all that, and you should work as hard as you can to make college admissions perfectly color-blind, as well as hiring in American corporations. There’s a way to do that, and it’s pretty simple. Put a person’s CV in front of an admissions officer, or a hiring manager, and leave out all personal information about him or her. Simple as that. Some companies have taken to doing that, and it greatly reduces the possibility of racial or other discrimination in admissions or hiring. You should support such policies aggressively. If, that is, you’re serious about being against racism, something about which I have serious doubts.

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You Said:

WHY IS WHAT I’M DOING A BIG DEAL TO YOU? REALLY? WHY IS WHAT US SO-CALLED BLACK LIBERALS SO TROUBLING TO YOU? TELL THE DAMN TRUTH FOR ONCE! WHY IS US TALKING ABOUT RACISM A BAD THING TO YOU, BAD ENOUGH TO ATTACK US AND DON’T THINK THAT’S RACIST, WHEN YOU DON’T EVEN REALLY KNOW THE RACISM IS?

My Response:

It’s a big deal anytime cruel people attack innocent people. You and your amen chorus attack innocent people with spurious, venomous libels. It’s wrong and it’s vile. It’s evil. You and your friends should be ashamed of yourselves. Your “talking about racism” isn’t troubling at all. We do it here all the time. Your talking about racism — that’s not a problem anymore — and pretending that it is, is a problem. A big problem. For you, and for the innocent people whom you harm with your slanders. And, I’ve never told you anything but the truth. Serious question: How on earth would you know whether my intent is to lie to you or not? I always, always, always give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re telling the truth. Why wouldn’t you give me that courtesy too? Especially when I’ve always been polite with you.

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You Said:

TELL ME.

My Response:

Again? Really?

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You Said:

DON’T TELL ME IT DOESN’T MATTER TO YOU, BECAUSE IT OBVIOUSLY DOES. DON’T GIVE ME NO [Obscenity deleted] RIGHT WING ANSWER. DON’T CITE BLACK CONSERVATIVES TO PROVE YOUR CASE. DON’T TELL ME THAT YOU’RE A BLACK WOMAN. DON’T INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE AND TELL ME I’M WRONG. STOP LYING TO YOURSELF [Swearing deleted], QUIT ACTING LIKE A WEASELLY COWARD AND TELL ME THE [Swearing deleted], [Obscenity deleted] TRUTH FOR ONCE IN THE NAME OF THE ALMIGHTY HIMSELF!

My Response:

Dude: All my answers are, by definition, “right-wing answers.” I’m a right-winger! While yours are… left-wing, RGI answers. Duh! Intelligent, black Conservatives only bolster my points-of-view. I won’t “not cite them.” Of course! If I were to give you anything other than a “right-wing answer,” then I’d be lying to you. If you were to give me anything but a left-wing, RGI answer, you’d be lying to me. Unless, that is, you grow up, learn a whole bunch of stuff, and join us here on the side of the good guys. It’d take real courage and wisdom, so it might be a stretch for you. Apologies: that was unnecessary snark. 🙂

Again, I’ve been telling you nothing but the truth. You shouldn’t invoke God’s name in an argument between us. Neither of us measures up in His eyes. Thank God for Jesus! (literally!)

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You Said:

I was honest to you in EVERYTHING I’ve said. I even know what I was wrong about certain things. I was open and upfront. I was truthful.

My Response:

And, I admit, I was wrong in some things too. If you’ll stop being a proto-fascistic doofus, and let me back onto your blog, I’ll tell you all about it. Again, it’ll require wisdom and courage of which you haven’t shown yourself capable yet. Doesn’t mean you’re not capable of it, though.

One quick note: Your phrase: “I even know what I was wrong about certain things.” is an extraordinary thing. A phrase of great wisdom and insight. It means that there’s real hope for you. That’s there’s a very real possibility that you’re not the blithering, racist idiot you make yourself out to be on your blog. (Apologies: You’re not blithering. 🙂 )

I never said you weren’t truthful or up front. I don’t know why you would try to say that I did. Look through our voluminous correspondence: nowhere have I ever suggested that you weren’t telling the truth as you believe it.

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You Said:

FOR ONCE, EXTEND TO ME THAT SAME COURTESY!

My Response:

I always have. I’ve never told you anything but the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. You don’t seem to like that.

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Best,

— x


Thus ends one of the more extraordinary exchanges I’ve had online.

— xPraetorius

7 thoughts on “Brothawolf Replies…(Part II)

      1. Question. What do you think of this:

        “First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.”

  1. Hi, BW! Interesting question. Here’s a brief response:

    I’m sure your question is an attempt at a “gotcha” question, but there’s a problem with it. It has lots of levels associated to it, so it needs to be addressed at all those levels. It is, however, a good question. I posed a question to you — again — at the bottom of this response. I hope you’ll do me the courtesy of answering that one, as I’m answering yours.

    Your quote, above, comes from Patrick Buchanan, who’s a complicated figure in American life today. He’s an older man, who worked in the Nixon, Ford and Reagan administrations. He’s also someone who could be called a “white nationalist,” but who is one only because he’s definitely a nationalist — ie he believes in American exceptionalism — and he’s… white. Some accuse him of anti-semitism, but I think that’s complicated too. He’s a Roman Catholic, and no group did more to save the lives of Jews inside Nazi Germany during the Second World War, than Roman Catholics. Furthermore, Catholics were among the very first to embrace and shape abolitionism.

    However, the feeling that most people have regarding the term “white nationalist” is dominated by the idea that to be a nationalist and white is also to be… racist. Buchanan is many things, a bunch of things that I don’t like, and some that I do, but he’s not a racist. Sorry, neither nationalism now white skin are synonymous with racism. Never were, never will be. And, in fact, white people are now, by far, the least racist people on the planet.

    Furthermore, the idea that racism is a necessary component of nationalism is just silly. There’s no basis in logic for it. One can be a nationalist and not be a racist. One can be white and not be a racist. One can be both and not be a racist. You might be on stronger ground if you were to suggest that “tribalism” is an ingredient of nationalism, and I’d be more inclined to agree with you. It’s why I’m not a nationalist. Why I have little sympathy for nationalism.

    However, in an imperfect world one can envision something like a “Scandinavian option” in which a lily-white, tribalist Scandinavia interacts in great harmony with any black, tribalist African nation, but the two societies don’t intermingle socially. That’s tribalist nationalism. But it’s not racism.

    In that world, the Scandinavian nations and the African nations have no bias against the countries with whom they’re friendly, they just want their country to consist overwhelmingly of the same tribe. Why? Simple: Let’s imagine a hypothetical tribe — the “Golfers” (I like golf). The “Golfers” tribe consists of people who all have roughly the same frame-of-mind, the same outlook, the same general view of what it is to be a “Golfer.” A tribe of people who know to their very depths what it is to be a “Golfer.” And they have a general understanding that no one else can know what it is to be a “Golfer,” no one else can be a “Golfer.” It’s not racism, but it is something else that’s not very good: “snobbery.” Needless to say, “Golfers” would congregate together in groups that grow as more “Golfers” procreate. They’d call the are in which they congregate, something like “Golfland.”

    If, in another country, there’s another tribe called: “Tennisers,” well they’re the same thing. A tribe whose members know to their very depths what it is to be a “Tenniser.” They’d live, of course in “Tennisia.” And so forth.

    It’s not remotely a good way to run a world, and it would be Hell for people like me. But it would keep the peace. I think that’s what nationalists are doing: settling for second best: a world in which people act like peaceful, but distant, neighbors of different races, and not like members of a single human race, part of a single, shared humanity, each single, solitary person of whom is interested in, fascinated by, and concerned for every other person in the house of his neighbor, in a visceral, all-encompassing, full way. That’s the world I’d like to see, but I think the nationalists figure that the other, the tribalist, world is the best we can do, so let’s just go for that.

    I respectfully disagree.

    I think that in striving for the perfect world, we’ll get the best possible world we can have. If we strive for “just good” we might get to “almost good”… because we’re imperfect. If we strive for “great,” we might get to “good.” Because we’re imperfect. If we strive for “stupendous,” then we might get to “great.” Because we’re imperfect. That’s why we must strive for “Perfect.” Because we’re imperfect.

    My humble opinion: Only God allows us to have the best possible lives in the best possible societies. Because He’s perfect, He demonstrates what perfection is. He’s what allows our imperfect selves to strive infinitely. “Good,” “great,” “stupendous” are words that have limits. But, if you strive for “Perfect,” you’ll never get there, so you can always strive, and your life will always have greater meaning than just getting from today to tomorrow.

    What Buchanan said is literally true, obviously, and it shows that he knows what I was talking about. However, the first person to say to me what Buchanan said, was a black man. Looks as though the idea — a simple truth — is spreading! 🙂

    The part about the 600,000 black people being brought here on slave ships is true. Needless to say, however, that phrase is laden with tragedy. The slave trade was, truly, a horror. There’s no way to sugar coat that, and I’d never even try to do so, because that would dishonor the truth.

    If, however, we’re going to respect the truth, then we have to respect it always. And the truth is that America, and its unique new type of government, allowed for the tragedy of slavery then, to turn into the triumph of black freedom and prosperity now.

    Yes, it was much later that all these good things came to pass, and certainly far too late for the victims of kidnapping and slavery. And, absolutely, the memory of those who suffered through slavery must be honored and immortalized. However, undeniably, all those good things of today… did come to pass.

    If we’re going to respect the truth of slavery, you also must recognize the truth that black Americans live better, are freer, have more opportunities, than black people anywhere else in the world. You must also recognize the truth that without the North American slave trade, no matter what your life looks like now, BW, it’s likely that it would be a whole lot worse. If, that is, you existed at all.

    BW: the history of the world is jam-packed to overflowing with horror and tragedy for every single race on the face of the earth. Before the advent of the United States all the peoples on the face of the earth lived in squalor, with no hope of advancement of any kind, economic, social or political.

    America, carved as it was, from Western Civilization changed all that, and changed it dramatically for the better.

    Do you even realize the magnificent, stratospheric, beyond-belief, out-of-all-comprehension significance of the phrase, “President Obama?”

    Look, Obama was — is — a total doofus, and a racialist half-wit, a highly educated idiot. But, he is a black man, and we, in America, used to call him “Mr. President.” Yes, we could have chosen a highly intelligent black man — there were plenty of them around on the Right — but we chose a leftist idiot. And, we freely chose a black man. Sorry… that just wouldn’t have been possible in a racist country.

    To go from a country that had debates about whether slavery was okay or not, to a country that elected a black man as its President, the most powerful man in the world, is a thing that challenges the ability of words to describe it. You guys in the RGI fail to acknowledge not just some abstract “progress,” but the unbelievable, incredible, astonishing, miraculous, over-the-top, through-the-roof incredibleness of the more than a little ridiculous phrase “President Obama,” then either #1: you’re an idiot, or #2: you’re being willfully stupid. Remember #2 always leads directly to #1, in fact is a leading cause of #1.

    By the way, a lot of people in the RGI try to put a lot of stock in the phrase: the slaves “were introduced to Christian salvation,” and Christian salvation is the ultimate prize, so, yes, that is a gift that God gives to those who suffer greatly. You can try to use slavery, and the words of others, to indict Christianity, as those who look only superficially at things do, or… you can look at salvation as the fact that God never abandons anyone, not under any circumstance, not at any time, not ever. Christian salvation — actual salvation — was the tag-along of which the slavers were or were not conscious, but it was bigger than the slavers’ lack of Christian feeling, and it was the gift that comes along, at every moment, with everyone who lives his or her life. How ironic that some slavers would acknowledge that gift all while rejecting it! And still not being able to deny it to the future slaves!

    Of course those on the Left, and in the RGI, would try to use today the gift of salvation that traveled with those sufferers back then as a maladroit attempt to slander Christianity. Shouldn’t be unexpected, but it does show a lack of ability to think, to see other perspectives, to… understand reality. Hmmmmmm… all the things you condemn me for! Can you imagine that?!? 🙂

    And, still you haven’t answered my challenge: If the U.S. government were to offer you 10 million dollars, with no strings except one: you must renounce your American citizenship and move elsewhere… would you take it, and where would you choose to live?

    Best,

    — x

  2. Okay. I’m just going to go with this as your response:

    “What Buchanan said is literally true, obviously, and it shows that he knows what I was talking about. However, the first person to say to me what Buchanan said, was a black man. Looks as though the idea — a simple truth — is spreading!”

    So, in short, you agree with that statement and since a black man said the same thing, that makes it more true. Okay.

    You said.

    “And, still you haven’t answered my challenge: If the U.S. government were to offer you 10 million dollars, with no strings except one: you must renounce your American citizenship and move elsewhere… would you take it, and where would you choose to live?

    I would ask why should I renounce my citizenship to accept this cash. I have a right to know why that’s so.

  3. No, you can’t “just go with” your synopsis of my response. You have to “go with” the entire response. Not one iota less. In that response, I told you of my serious reservations with what Buchanan said. And I’ve also always told you of my serious reservations with what I said!

    What I said, and what Buchanan said, are, literally, true. The fact that slavery worked out very, very well for the long-in-the-future descendants of slaves, doesn’t change the fact that slavery was evil.

    As for the terms of the other thought exercise, those are the terms. Yes, it is a bit of a “gotcha” question. You won’t be able simply to answer the question without being either (1) dishonest, or (2) contradicting/disproving some important things you’ve said.

    Unless, that is, you surprise me, as you did with your longer recent post.

    If I tell you why I made renouncing your citizenship a condition of the thought exercise, that would potentially lead you to an answer different from what you might give if you simply think about it. After you answer the question, I’ll tell you why I did the “renounce” thing.

    And, by the way, I didn’t make you tell me anything about your question.. I simply answered it. You can do the same for me.

    [One more quick thought exercise, to add to the one at top. If you could, would you wish away slavery from America’s past? (I’ve asked you this question before… I’ve asked other black people the same question. It ends up being an extremely uncomfortable question for them; especially for descendants of slaves.]

    Best,

    — x

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