As many of you know, I sometimes go back and forth on the topic of race relations with Brothawolf — I call him BW — in exchanges that generally consist of my suggesting that he advance some kind of argumentation, while he whines about how I present mine.
By way of argument, I’ve advanced, and supported in various ways, the notion that if any black person does all of my “five things,” then in America he or she will have no more impediments in his path to success than anyone else(1). The reason to present the “five things” was to counter BW’s notion that America is a nation awash in hostility to black Americans; a “racist nation.”
The “five things” are: (1) Learn to speak well, (2) get an education, (3) work hard, (4) get along well with others, (5) present oneself more or less normally.
I honed these “five things” in back-and-forths with numerous members of the Race Grievance Industry (the RGI), and I think they, really, do little more than state the obvious. The “five things” are what we generally expect of everyone, with no real exceptions, if we are to consider them to be fully-functioning members of society. More, my so-called “five things” are what every society expects — and has always expected — of all its citizens regardless of where — or when — they are, or were, in the world.
Still, I received massive pushback from the RGI after saying these pretty non-controversial things. According to these birdbrains, I was a racist, a liar, stupid ignorant, uneducated, a jerk and all the rest. Most of all, though, I was a jerk.(2) No one, though, ever presented any argumentation to counter the truth of my “five things.”
The exchanges went in many different directions and, inevitably I guess, arrived eventually at “black-on-black crime.” It’s a serious problem in America and BW is of the opinion that unless you’re black you shouldn’t be able to talk about it at all. His idea is that you must be black, or else you can’t possibly have anything valid at all to say. And, in fact, if you’re not black, then it’s — of course! — racist for you to talk about black-on-black crime.
I pointed out the galloping, vacuous, towering silliness of BW’s notion, and further indicated that in demanding that nearly two-thirds of the American nation silence itself, he was eliminating a massive quantity of potentially constructive thought on how to solve this national emergency, and… save lives.
This shouldn’t have been at all controversial.
It is, of course, Brothawolf’s racialist defensiveness making it so that while black people die — in obscene numbers — in the streets of Democrat-controlled cities, he can defend the idea that some people — most people — ought simply to shutup about it.(3)
Can you imagine that? A serious problem in America — people dying in droves! — and others who ought to care deeply about that, telling still others who might have good ideas… to shutup!
After going back and forth about the ridiculous silliness of BW’s position, I decided to ratchet things up a bit. After all — black people are dying! Still! It should make any sane person want to scream! One lost life is one lost life too many!!!
So, I called BW an accomplice in the deaths of thousands of other black Americans.
Needless to say, BW went ballistic at my use of that intentionally strong(4) word. However, did BW think about it at all? Or did he just go ballistic? Well, I don’t know the complete answer to that question, but BW posted his extremely defensive reply very shortly after my post suggesting that he was an accomplice.
Now, if someone were to call you an “accomplice” in the deaths of thousands of people similar to you, don’t you think you’d at least think about it for a bit? Wouldn’t you at least try to understand the accusation? Wouldn’t you want to know where the deeply painful charge was coming from? I certainly would, and I’d question the accuser in-depth about his conclusions.
BW didn’t do any of that…
BW simply got all defensive about it. He immediately made it all about his and my interactions, and he took the word “accomplice” completely personally.
I’m starting to realize that the RGI doesn’t really care the tiniest bit about black people dying in the streets of America’s cities, as long as they personally aren’t doing the dying! After all, others are dying, but BW made it all about himself! In all our exchanges, I’ve never been able to shake BW from his whining about how our discussions upset him. How my style of argumentation hurt his feelings, or made him feel bad.
The Left is nothing if not self-obsessed.
One more quick thing: the RGI likes it’s status as a perceived victim. There’s a lot of automatic nobility conferred on those who’re seen as victims.
Want a particularly brutal, painful, but obvious, example? Okay: The Nazis murdered six million Jews, hundreds of thousands of Catholics, and thousands of gays. Among those murder victims were at least some scoundrels, thieves, murderers, rapists, jerks, mountebanks, liars, cheats, frauds, bounders, rat finks, jerks, cads, and sleazeballs. All populations have ’em. However, if you were one of those dirtballs, and you were murdered by the Nazis in a death camp, then history views you with an almost beatific admiration, as if you were a genuine saint. That’s the way of history.
The point: if the RGI can keep the myth of its own victimhood alive, and prominent in the national discourse, then a certain amount of automatic nobility will come their way… whether it’s merited or not. This is, I theorize, the reason for their petulant — and rock-solid, monolithic — defiance in the face of people trying to posit ideas to solve the serious national problem of black-on-black crime.
Below, I’ve reproduced Brothawolf’s response to my post (here) accusing BW of complicity in the deaths of black Americans.
I’ve taken this unusual step, because although BW accuses me of all sorts of nefarious stuff, he will not allow me to defend myself on his blog. This is, of course, the height of fascistic behavior!
Never, ever, not ever, not even once, have I (we) ever limited BW’s ability to defend himself, or to accuse me (us) of anything he wishes, or to say whatever he wishes in these pages. And I (we) never will!(5)
The opposite condition applies at BW’s blog. A leftist blog (of course!), BW routinely bans others from having their say. After he libels someone, he frequently doesn’t allow that person to defend himself. It’s fascism writ small, and it’s an indication of how BW, and those who think as he does, would run things if they were ever to obtain power(6). Trust me, all of a sudden, “dissent” wouldn’t be the “highest form of patriotism!”
So, without further ado, here’s BW’s post — in response to my post — with my subsequent comments [in square brackets and in red font]:
BW’s Response to Our Original Post (here)… And Our Response [in square brackets and red font]:
XPraetorius, the blogger behind the Praetorian Writers’ Group and a self-proclaimed collective of conservative writers, made a post about a comment I made to express his unending disdain for the left for supposedly making excuses while black people are dying.
[My Response: Okay. This is kind of incoherent. I like BW, but this makes no sense. We are a simple writers group, and we express ourselves. That’s it. The Left does, indeed, make excuses while black Americans — your brothers and sisters and mine — die.]
In his usual fashion, xPraetorius goes in on the left in how it ignores “black-on-black crime”. He did express his disgust towards racist mass killer Dylann Roof who, more than three years ago, shot and killed nine black churchgoers in a church in Charleston, South Carolina. Yet, his anti-liberal rage prevails as he accuses the left of leaving out those with new ideas to solve the problem. Presumably, xPraetorius may be referring mostly to himself as one of “those” with those ideas.
[Uhhh… huh? No. I’ve always said that no one should be excluded from making suggestions for eliminating black-on-black crime — or any crime! — and violence in America. And, you know what? I’d have expressed my disgust toward any hypothetical “Dylann Roof” who might have killed a bunch of white people — as friends of BW wish — or anyone else! I don’t like people harming other people! Like me, BW gets mad when white people — like the psychotic Roof — kill black people. However, I also get mad when anyone kills anyone else. BW is just fine with black people killing other black people, as long as it’s not white people killing black people! Got all that? Bottom line: The RGI is just fine with certain murders!]
And then, he went in on part of a comment I made in one of his recent posts while calling me a racist, though he never addressed it as a comment I made:
“I guess all those police brutalities and polices murders against black people are all in my head. I guess all those incidents where white people harassed black people entering public places for no good reason are also unfounded and are totally not race based. I guess white folks calling the cops on us for merely being in a coffee shop, a gym, a store, a restaurant or even at a park having a cookout is justified just because. And one more thing, I guess I imagined the terrible church shooting that took the lives of nine innocent black people by a lone racist.”
In his dichotomous mind, xPraetorius seems to think that me focusing on white racism is ignoring “black-on-black crime” which is a racially charged term to imply that ONLY black people harm and kill each other:
You make excuse after excuse after excuse after excuse after excuse, and you whine and whine and whine and whine and whine about the perfectly irrelevant, completely forgetting that BLACK PEOPLE ARE DYING! At the hands of other black people. And you’re complicit in it, and you should be ashamed of yourself, FREAKIN’ DO SOMETHING! Can you tell that I’m a bit ticked off?
[My point: at no point have I ever tried to suggest that only black people commit crime against other black people. This is a massive fault of the Left: the fabrication of strawmen. At no point did I ever suggest that only black people commit crimes against other black people, but BW’s thoughts above would suggest otherwise. And: what in the world is a “dichotomous mind?!?” Just another nonsense term.
BW says that I think his focus on white racism means that he doesn’t care about “black-on-black-crime,” yet I never said that, nor even hinted at it! Nor, do I even care! It’s not BW’s insecurity about his indifference to black-on-black-crime that irritates me, but his aggressive insistence that only black people can ever talk about black-on-black crime. Well, only black people have been talking about black-on-black crime! And it hasn’t worked! Black people are still dying in droves! At the hands of other black people!
Read this, and read it well: BW’s resistance to the idea of other people talking about black-on-black crime is what makes him an accomplice in black deaths, not his focus on white racism. I say: “Let BW focus on white racism all he wants, we’ll focus on real problems.” And BW abolutely should welcome the presence of other people trying to solve the deadly problem.]
That’s when he says: [The upcoming is BW quoting me again. I’m pleased with this quote. At least it makes racists like BW think about what they say and do. You have to remember that the Left is nothing more than a vast echo chamber. BW and those who think like him aren’t using actual thoughts but merely regurgitating what’s been fed to them. Here’s BW quoting me:]
You give me the big kiss off, when you’re a willing accomplice in the DEATHS of thousands of black people, and I’m tired of your stupid excuses, while BLACK PEOPLE ARE DYING!!!
[This is the first time I used the word “accomplice.” And, as I might have mentioned… I meant it!]
The last part set me off in the worst way. So, I responded and cursed xPraetorius out in spades. Yet, as usual, he feels he said nothing wrong or false, and doubles down on me being an accomplice:
[Above, BW admits that he’s lost his cool. He blames this on me, but there’s a simple truth in life: You’re in charge of your own cool. In charge of your own temper. Period. At all times. No exceptions. So, in order not to be arguing pathetically, let’s at least admit the obvious: that it’s BW’s fault that he lost his cool. This is a big problem with BW, who allows himself to be offended at the tiniest perceived slights. It’s a major factor in BW’s inability to debate calmly and rationally.]
Now, about the word “accomplice.” You need to read this well: When you do what you can to prevent others from proposing solutions to what is a deadly problem for black people in America, then you’re as much as helping to pull the triggers on the guns that kill black people. That makes you an accomplice. I know you don’t like the word, but it’s true…
[Above BW quotes me. I liked that quote too. What I said here is obvious. BW’s objection appears to be nothing more than the idea that I’ve accused him of being an accomplice in black-on-black violence. Ummmm… well, if you’re guilty of something, then you shouldn’t really be all that surprised if someone accuses you of being guilty of that of which you’re guilty! 🙂 ]
…Nope. I never crossed any lines. So, of course, I won’t apologize for what I haven’t done.
The sad part is that you are part of a problem that kills black Americans, and you refuse to apologize for that.
[BW quotes me again in the above two paragraphs. I should note that he’s pulled paragraphs from widely-separated locations in the conversation, and he tends to imply that one thing that I’ve said was immediately after the other. That’s not the case with the above two quoted paragraphs. A point that I’ve often made is that context is crucial. By pulling paragraphs from different locations, BW tells you that he’s willing to deceive you as to the actual meaning of the quotes he’s using.]
Here’s a link to the post and exchange.
Before you comment, let me say that I know I should’ve left xPraetorius alone. After all, I banned him from my blog as his responses has (sic) shown to be toxic and offensive. However, his blog is highly problematic and whether you leave him alone or give him attention, he will continue to spark fires even if you come to fight the flames. I already risk him getting more hits by linking to his post.
[This makes no sense. However, you see the usual leftist codswallop. “If only I’d left that idiot alone!” “If only I hadn’t engaged!” “If only I hadn’t argued with that guy!” Or (stating the obvious) … “If only I hadn’t argued with that guy, I’d never have had my clock cleaned by him!“]
It’s not a liberal or conservative issue. It’s a human issue on many levels. [Yes and no… On all levels it’s a completely human issue! No issue is ever any any other kind of issue. In this paragraph, BW admits that he’s wrong. If it’s neither a right nor left issue, then it’s also not a black or white issue!
It is, however, also a Left-Right issue in that black people are being slaughtered in cities that have been run by the Left for generations. It is a Left-Right issue because… Leftist policies kill black people! BW is a Leftist. It’s another way in which he’s an accomplice in the deaths of black Americans. Think it’s harsh of me to say that he’s an accomplice? Well, it’s indisputable that black Americans are dying violent deaths in cities where Democrats have been in charge for most of the last 60 years. It’s a record of failure and horror so flagrant, so dismal, that it’s difficult to think that it’s not on purpose. After all, no one’s that stupid! Right? Black people vote overwhelmingly for Democrats. It’s the principal reason why cities have been nearly exclusively in the hands of the Democrat Party for 60 years.] It’s an issue with decency and having open conversations with open minds and hearts. It’s about respecting each other’s views, listening and learning. [Except, according to BW, if you’re not black. Then, your views aren’t worth respecting, and it’s not worth it to listen to you. It’s BW’s last sentence that completely, thoroughly and utterly destroys his own argument.
Please keep in mind that I really like BW. When he says that “It’s an issue with decency and having open conversations with open minds and hearts. It’s about respecting each other’s views, listening and learning.” he’s absolutely right.
I’ve been trying for a very long time to make this point to him. People are dying! That’s not “right or left“… it’s human! At some point, we can hope, BW will listen to his own advice and pay attention to, and listen to, people who have different points of view from his own.]
But xPraetorius has crossed the line and has gone way beyond offensive.
[The truth is never offensive… that’s another very, very simple truth.]
He may seem like he cares about the lives of black people, but he seems to vehemently care more about the crime and violence in our neighborhoods as opposed to incidents where race was a highly implied factor. [BW seems to want me to admit that things like the Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown tragedies were “white on-black” incidents, when they simply were not.] And don’t get him started on this little thing known as institutionalized racism. [Do get me started on “institutionalized racism!” Go right ahead! Show me one single, solitary institution, one rule, one process, one procedure, one regulation, one policy or procedure, that disfavors anyone who’s not white. Go ahead, I’ll wait.] None of that is as important, it appears, and he can’t seem to be adult about it not [sic] to tell me that I’m part of the problem.
[Dude… people are frickin’ dying! Nothing is more important than that! Nothing at all! Not your pathetic ego or mine. Not your feelings or your sensitivity or anything else. People are dying!]
I never ignored the problems of crime and violence in black communities. [Correct: You didn’t “ignore the problem of crime and violence in black communities,” you helped bring it about!] Hell, I’ve seen it and was very close to it during my lifetime, and I’ve done my damnedest to help acknowledge and fix the problem. [Hogwash! Prove it! Read it well, you nitwit: If you prevented other people from speaking up about it, then you aided and abetted the killing. Simple as that. And quit your idiotic arguing about it! But I also focused on the assault against black communities cause by racism [Oh? Give me an example. a current one. Just one for the moment. And not an isolated incident either. Something bad that this country is doing to all black people. Don’t get me wrong, there are bad things this country is doing to black people,, but they’re not what you think they are. No such example, and… you’re lying.] and acknowledged that problem as well. It seems he thinks black people, those on the left as he sees it, are misguided [Correct. Black leftists are misguided. By definition, “leftist” bespeaks a certain state-of-mind. That state-of-mind is generally stupid, moronic, half-witted.] and have one-track minds obsessing over an issue he thinks is not a major one and could care less about black people harming and killing each other. [Yep. You’ll have trouble convincing me that the RGI, or the Left, gives the teentsiest, weentsiest damn about actual black lives! Black Lives Don’t Matter to the American Left… or to Brothawolf.]
xPraetorius has the gall to accuse me of not giving a f### about the issue of crime and goes so far as to call me an accomplice! Needless to say, it infuriated me. I was beyond offended, and civility be damned, I told him off.
[Yep. He told me off…. in perfectly idiotic terms. Especially since he helps kill black people every day. But, BW never told me whether I was wrong or not… and why… Same ol’ BW! He worries obsessively over how you tell him what you tell him. And he worries obsessively over what you tell him… but he never bothers to tell you why he thinks you’re wrong! The only possible conclusion is, therefore, that you’re not wrong, but that BW’s sure upset at you. And… yep: black people are still dying in American cities run by Democrats; often by black Democrats!]
I don’t know if xPraetorius’ concern is genuine. His views on the issue are a bit distorted. [Oh? How so? My views on this and other topics are always quite clear.] But his track record shows that he has a way of saying the most screwed up things [I challenge you to name one “screwed-up” thing I’ve said that I haven’t completely backed-up.] to those he considers are liberals and doesn’t and won’t see them as hurtful. He thinks he is in the right most, if not all, of the time. [Not sure what this means. I think I’m right in what I say? Doesn’t everyone? I tend not to put stuff I think is wrong in my posts and replies.]
[The point: Who cares — seriously — whether my “concern is genuine” or not? Why not simply… argue against my points? Answer: He has no arguments against my points.]
It is not because he’s white – even though in some instances he claims he’s a black woman – as he says, that I go after him and silenced him from my blog. It’s not even because he’s a conservative. It’s because he’s practically a cyberbully with little to no empathy. [Nope. Its because BW’s a frickin’ chicken, a coward. If your views are solid, well-supported, intelligent, then you have no fear whatsoever of “cyberbullies,” or of people with “no empathy,” or of trolls. If your views are solid and well-supported,then you have nothing on earth to worry about… especially the points of view of those who disagree!] He won’t own up to this and other insensitive and derogatory comments [awwww… the insensitive, derogatory comments! 🙂 ] he has made about me and other bloggers, and he will continue to go on the offensive against other bloggers outside his thinking. [Nope. I go on the offensive against stupidity, lies, corruption, fraud… against leftism. I always do that.] Why? Maybe it’s to draw attention to draw other like-minded folk to his blog as, at least compared to mine, it’s relatively unpopular. [Lol! Yep. I get far fewer views than BW. However, all that counts is who views our respective blogs! 🙂 We’re okay with right where we are.] Maybe, in some sick way, he’s enjoying pissing people off for some unknown reason, maybe to fight against his enemy, the left. Whatever it is, xPraetorius is an example of what happens when people abuse their freedom of speech to spread insanity and fear, and he sees nothing wrong with it no matter how painfully obvious it is. [This last is just BW bile. He’s not very good at snark and I think this is supposed to pass for BW’s sneering and snark. It’s not very good.]
(1) I’ve since modified this somewhat. This is the “Major Rethinking of Things” mentioned in the headline. I’ve been studying the effect that IQ — native intellectual capacity — has on the chances for success of all people. Well, it appears that IQ is a nearly definitive predictor for success in America! Here’s why that’s a problem: American ethnicities test extremely differently.
The highest scorers — very generally speaking — are the Ashkenazi Jews, followed by various Asian groups, followed by whites, then by “Hispanics” and finally by blacks. Remember that’s only a very general hierarchy, but it’s not considered debatable by social scientists, and it’s highly problematic. Also, it’s important to note that each ethnic population’s results make a bell curve that looks much like all the others. However, each population’s bell curve sits in a different place on the entire continuum, with the Askenazi’s on the far-right, and black Americans on the far-left.
This means that there’s considerable overlap around the means. But, that there are considerably more highly intelligent people on the right side of the bell curves for, say, the Ashkenazi Jews and Asians.
Highly intelligent people tend to make their way to the top into positions of power, authority and competence; to be “over-represented” at the top. That, of course, begs the question: why are there so many white Americans in positions of power and authority, despite the apparently uncontroversial scientific fact that whites are only in third place on the IQ continuum. And the answer to that is simple. Askenazi Jews and Asians are very small minorities.
Per capita there are more geniuses among Jews and Asians, but in sheer absolute numbers, there are simply far more white geniuses than in all other ethnic groups combined — merely because of white Americans’ status as by far the most numerous of all ethnic groups in America. This implies some disturbing things. For example: black Americans represent only about 14% of the population and score on the average significantly lower in IQ testing.
The point of this lengthy note: IQ might very well represent a significant obstacle to a large percentage of black Americans. If this is true, then the challenge before all decent Americans is to recognize the infinite inherent worth of all the people who may not have the advantage of an elevated IQ.
I worry about that immensely, because our society seems to be distancing itself from Christianity, the only belief system that insists unequivocally that all people are of absolutely equal value and importance in the eyes of God, because they are all — every single one — made in His image.
A fully secular America has no reason whatsoever to value black Americans… and therefore will not. Read that very, very well. This will be one of history’s most important tests for mankind… since our creation. It will be a test of our very humanity. Science continues to reveal to us some very, very difficult truths.
Important Note: we’ve done this horrible thing before in America! The 1920’s were the time of the Left-wing Progressives and their Eugenics movement, which proposed the gradual elimination of “inferior” peoples… such as black Americans. Somehow as a nation we rejected this horrific, inhuman, pseudo-scientific codswallop. Probably as a result of seeing what Eugenics’ most famous adherent — Adolf Hitler — did with it. Inexcusably, though, we appear to be embracing Eugenics again! See, for example, Iceland’s ballyhooed claim that it has “eliminated” Down Syndrome. How did they do that wonderful thing, you ask? Simple: they massacred all babies who tested positive for the Down Syndrome gene in utero.
(2) An important note here: When I say “I,” I mean my colleague and me.
Two people have interacted with BW over the years: my colleague and I. My colleague is a highly-educated, moderately famous black woman, with a long history of scholarship and work in the realm of civil rights and race relations.
I’m going to estimate that over the course of that interaction I’ve done about 80% of the actual interacting (I’m the really tall, white dude). Needless to say, this has confused the heck out of BW. Especially since my colleague and I are pretty much indistinguishable when it comes to our beliefs. However, it’s easy to respond to the complaint that we’re being disingenuous in our approach to BW — who, it seems, is only one person — and that is: respond to the ideas, without regard for who’s expressing them.
Numerous times I’ve (we’ve) challenged BW as follows: If my (our) thoughts are so manifestly, obviously wrong, then it ought to be child’s play to counter and utterly defeat them here in these interactions. Needless to say, these challenges went unanswered.
(3) BW’s recommendation — “SHUT THE F##K UP!!!” — was more colorful than what I described.
(4) I use language very intentionally, and try to scrutinize closely the vast majority of the words that I use. BW’s use of language is, let’s say, a good deal less considered.
(5) We do not permit bad language, dirty words, swearing, etc. Nor do we permit gratuitous insults directed at other commenters. The result is that few are able to comment here, because few can prevent themselves from making jackasses of themselves. We do not, however, ever, censor the thought behind any given post. Not ever.
(6) We’ve already seen this in places where the Left does hold power: in academia, Hollywood, the media, pop culture. Say the wrong thing, and… out you go! We saw it in the Obama Administration, where if you held a certain point of view certain functionaries were perfectly okay with denying you your First Amendment rights of free speech and free assembly.