Two Thought-Provoking Videos


 • • • IMPORTANTLY Thought-Provoking! • • •


 

Topic: IQ differences between peoples.

These videos were personally distressing for me. Even though I think we all knew that the basic premisethat IQ varies between groups — is self-evidently true. We addressed it in these pages as well.(1)

Four things were particularly painful for me:

  • The wide differences between groups.
  • The tight correlation between IQ and success in society.
  • The fact that these truths are true… worldwide.
  • The fact that the ones discussing this basic science had no idea how to address these differences for the benefit of society.

Here’s the first video:

The second video supports the conclusions of the first, and explains the science used:

 

To those in this audience, I’d issue a challenge: Can you think of public policy prescriptions that might acknowledge the scientific fact of the basic differences between societal groups, and configure society so that it offers all people a reasonable chance at prosperity, happiness, safety and security… the American Dream?

— xPraetorius

Notes:


(1) Our premise: It’s absolutely absurd to suggest that any characteristic would measure exactly the same, on average, between any two groups in society.

2 thoughts on “Two Thought-Provoking Videos

  1. I have no reason to doubt the scientific facts.
    As for public policy prescriptions, I’ll start by stating which policies do NOT work.
    Everyone is born with unique talents and capabilities. In a free market one has the chance to make the most of his potential.
    Example: A person in a (technologically) primitive society is born with the disadvantage of a lower than average IQ.
    However, the same person is a phenomenal runner. In a free market he could offer his service as a fast messenger delivering messages to nearby towns.
    In a command economy he wouldn’t have that chance since the state determines what is needed and produced.
    Whether we accept the data on IQ variances or not, one thing is clear. People will always vary in all kinds of ways. Some people are short, some people are tall etc.
    The question is: which system provides the most opportunity for people’s success? The clear answer is: free market captitalism!
    Let’s face it. Not everyone can do everything. I could never be a top level basket ball player due to my lack of height.
    Don’t we want the most intelligent people to do certain jobs? I’d hate to let a guy with an IQ of 70 perform surgery on my brain. Yes, I want the smartest lawyer to represent me and I certainly want the most intelligent scientists doing research. Having the most intelligent people doing certain things is of benefit to the society and it increases wealth and productivity.
    However, intelligence is not the only thing that matters. For example, I’d hate to let a guy with an IQ of 170 who is an alcoholic perform surgery on my brain.
    My criticism of the studies mentioned in the videos will lead me to my “prescription”.
    As mentioned in the videos Ashkenazi Jews are the most successful lawyers and southeast Asians are the most successful engineers and architects.
    A shallow interpretation of the data leads us to the conclusion that success is determined by race.
    A more thorough examination shows that it is not race per se that determines success but that it is intelligence which tends to be higher among the people mentioned.
    Here is my criticism: Why stop at intelligence? While intelligence is ONE factor that determines success, it is certainly not the ONLY factor.
    If intelligence was the only factor then we could do nothing to improve our chances of success.
    My experience tells me something different. The reason why Asians are successful in certain fields is not only because of their intelligence but it is also their culture.
    Chinese, Vietnamese, Koreans etc. value education greatly and they expect their children to perform accordingly. The expectations and the pressures on the children are very high.

    Before coming to final conclusions the matter should be further examined.
    Here is how it should be done:
    – Take a sample of successful people within a certain high IQ range.
    – Take another eqally great sample of unsuccessful people within the same IQ range.
    – Determine what the differences are.
    – The differences are the other factors that determine success.
    – If the differences are behaviours or character traits then recommendations can be made on how to change education, culture etc. in order to achieve maximum success.

    There is more than one way to success.
    A successful boxer whose name I’ve forgotten comes to mind.
    He once told in an interview that he compensated lack of talent with perserverance and doggedness.
    Never giving up, never letting up, he just outlasted his opponents.

    1. Outstanding, ar!

      I love the idea of comparing successful people and unsuccessful, or less-successful, people in the same IQ range!

      Also, your noting that IQ is not the only factor in success is important. Your quote: “There is more than one way to success.” Yep, and your example of the never-say-die boxer is a good one.

      Jordan Peterson says that the key components — or indicators (maybe: ingredients?) — of success are #1 intelligence and #2 conscientiousness.

      It seems that one could compensate for a lack of #1 with an overabundance of #2 — something that is under our control — and thereby at least maximize one’s chances for success.

      Between you and me, your recommendation of a study ought to be absolutely the first step on the way to dealing with what looks like a daunting reality.

      I fear, though, that in these emotionally charged times, the results of such a study could never become public.

      Best,

      — x

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