We Called This — 30 Years Ago


The Drudge headline reads: The ‘Hitler Of South Africa’ Tells White People, He Won’t Kill Them — Yet!


You’ll have to take my word for it, but about 30 years ago I wrote an editorial that was published in the local newspaper. In that piece I said that South African apartheid(1) had to end, and that it would end.

Then I said a “But…”

It was a very bigBut…”

Here it is:

But… it’s not enough to get rid of something bad; you must replace it with something better. Otherwise there’s no point.

In other words,unless you’re going to replace apartheid with something better… then there’s no point in replacing apartheid at all.

Or, otherwise stated: if the thing you’re going to put in place of apartheid is actually worse than apartheid, then you’re best off leaving apartheid in place. Until, that is… you can come up with something better.(2)

South Africa has replaced apartheid with a system that includes a prominent participant who envisions the killing of all white people in South Africa. In that context, it’s really difficult to make the case that it was a good thing to get rid of apartheid at all. No one in the previous white-dominated régime — a régime that everyone agrees was bad — ever envisioned killing black people at all.

We’ve seen this principle play itself out to ghastly effect elsewhere too:

  • The Russian tsars were bad — their successors, the Communists, were vastly worse.
  • The Weimar Republic in 1930’s Germany was bad — its successor, Hitler’s Third Reich — was vastly worse.
  • Cuba’s Batista was bad — his successor, Fidel Castro, was vastly worse.
  • Iran’s Shah was bad — his successor, the Islamist ghouls, are vastly worse.
  • And so on…

Conversely, we’ve seen the great things that can happen when a bad régime’s successor is an improvement over the régime it topples.

  • King George III of England was bad — his successor in the American colonies was vastly superior.

Here are the results of that particular changeover:

  • The abolition of slavery
  • The defeat of the successors to the Russian tsars
  • The defeat of the successors to the Weimar Republic
  • The freest, fairest, most humane, most generous, open, welcoming, friendly society ever established in the history of the planet

Finally, recent history has shown us, again to tragic effect, the accuracy of our hypothesis. In recent years, America toppled a real dirtbag — Iraq’s bloodthirsty dictator Saddam Hussein — and replaced him with something vastly better: a democratically-elected government. Then Democrats — the political wing of the American Left — threw it all away, snatching defeat from a hard-earned victory, allowing a vastly worse successor — ISIS — to take near total control in Iraq.

Needless to say, we’re still cleaning up from that mess. But only after the absolutely unnecessary loss of countless lives, along with the revelations of ISIS’s stomach-curdling brutality.(3)(4)

— xPraetorius

Notes:


(1) The system of government in pre-1990’s South Africa. It was a system that discriminated heavily in favor of the minority white population of South African.

(2) One more important reason for this is: humans tend not to want to go back to what was in place before… even if what’s in place now is way worse. Polls in Russia, for example, still show that Josef Stalin — the mass murderer of tens of millions of Russians — is a lot more popular than the last Russian tsar.

(3) They crucify men, women and children, saw the heads off men, bury men, women and children alive, burn men alive. All for videos that they then distribute to similarly-minded goons around the world.

(4) The principle holds true everywhere, especially in America. If you’re going to replace the thoroughly mediocre George W. Bush, you shouldn’t do so with the execrable, corrupt Barack Obama. You should replace Bush with… someone better.

 

76 thoughts on “We Called This — 30 Years Ago

    1. Nope. You got that 100% wrong. If you were actually to read what I write, you’d see quite easily that my thinking and writing are 100% antithetical to that of any “supremacists,”… even you black supremacists.

      Regardless, my simple assertion that I’m 100% opposed to any supremacists whatsoever should be enough for you. Period.

      What you black supremacists don’t understand is that in all characteristics, all identifiable groups will have — on the average — different levels of that characteristic. Either more or less. Whether it be: native intelligence, physical strength, wisdom, maturity, height, weight, age… any possible characteristic.

      This is self-evident. After all, no two people ever measure exactly the same in any two characteristics — much less entire populations.

      Therefore, again by definition, equality of outcome is absolutely impossible… without forcing it from above. In other words, without imposing a horrific tyranny on the people. As the Left always does.

      Study the Pareto Principle, and tell me what you think.

      Best,

      — x

      1. Black supremacist? Me? Really? Are you serious, or just trolling around?

        I just informed you of what they think, and what you said basically coincides with it . It’s a consideration to think about.

        1. Mostly, but not, completely, tongue-in-cheek as it pertains to you, but much of the RGI is really a Black Supremacist movement.

          What’s the best way to deflect from black supremacy? Easy: Keep screaming, “White supremacy!!!” at the top of your lungs.

          There was a method behind my asking you insistently to disavow — publicly — “diary’s” bloodthirsty fantasy. Her publicly stated wish that all white people die a violent death is, obviously, black supremacist thinking, Your inability to disavow publicly the horrific fantasy was instructive.

          If someone had said anything similar to that on our blog, I’d have immediately condemned the terrible thought… unequivocally and unambiguously. You may not know it, but the fact that you couldn’t do it — on your blog, in public, without reservation — meant that you are — at least a little bit — part of black supremacist thinking. Not surprising, really. Racism is really a kind of supremacist thinking as it is, and you’ve admitted that you’re a racist.

          And, as you know, I’m nothing like any kind of supremacist at all, so you can put that little canard to rest. 🙂

          Best,

          — x

          1. Okay. Just stop bringing up that damn comment. Just stop it. You’re obsessed. I apologized, and yet you keep bringing it up. Just let it go and move on.

            I’m not a black supremacist as I don’t think my “race” is superior above all others. I’ve never even implied that, not once in my blog. So, stop with that.

            This is the problem that you refuse to see. If there’s to be a conversation about race, your kind of thinking is highly problematic.

          2. Dude: You apologized here, at my blog. You’re still on record at your blog as approving of her post.

            I get to use that post until you publicly, meaningfully condemn it unambiguously.

            Publicly and unambiguously means: — at your blog, where it’s actually meaningful and where you can make a statement that actually takes a stand against real hatred, and real racism, and for decency.

            Dude: why not defang me entirely, and on your blog make the following statement: “Some time ago, ‘diaryofanegress’ made a horrible statement in which she fantasized about the violent death of all white people on the planet. It was a ghastly, racist statement, and I reject it completely and unambiguously. It’s the kind of statement I’d never allow a white person to make on my blog, and in order to remain true to my beliefs, I cannot allow a black person to make the same kind of statement here.”

            Your statement, IMHO, should include an unambiguous rejection of the statement, as well as an indication that it goes against your beliefs and your values. Otherwise, you allow those who might question your sincerity to find loopholes in your statement. Trust me, I know this well! 🙂

            Just suggestions, BW… don’t go accusing me of trying to tell you what to say.

            BW: if you were to do that, I have to admit, (1) I’d be very surprised, and (2) I’d publicly admit here — where it’s meaningful — that I was wrong about you.

            I hope you read that last well. Wouldn’t you like to see me admitting that I was wrong about you? Right here?

            What do you think?

            Best,

            — x

          3. Okay, ‘dude’, it’s MY BLOG, and it’s JUST A BLOG! JUST A DAMN BLOG! You get it? IT’S A BLOG AND IT’S MY BLOG! I put it in caps so it would be impossible for you to miss.

            And yes, you can say what you want on your blog as well. Yet, when there has been actual incidents of racism that has been reported in the news, YOU’RE SILENT AS A MOUSE. You can’t say how you’re against racism, and have never proven to be as outspoken against racism by whites when you’re so damn busy accusing black people of doing so of being racists. That’s NOT how it works. It has never worked that way, and it will never work no matter how much you want it to.

          4. Ummmm. As to your first paragraph, yes, it’s your blog… as well as your public statements to the world. And in your public statements to the world, you’re still on record as approving of ‘diary’s’ bloodthirsty sentiments.

            So, does this mean that I don’t have to tell the world — on my blog — that I was wrong about you? It’s a post I’d take great joy in writing.

            As to your second paragraph, you know very well that I have always condemned racism in all its forms on our blog. Never, once have I ever shirked that responsibility. You’re flailing now, BW.

            Best,

            — x

          5. No. You will not guilt-trip me on this one. I will not search through the entire comment section just for one comment. If my apology seems empty to you, oh well. Not my problem.

            I never saw you denounce nor condemn any incidents where black people were victims of racism. Not once. You said nothing when such incidents occurred. I have. What was your excuse? They didn’t exist? They didn’t matter? They went against your thinking? They make you feel guilty? What is it really?

          6. No guilt trip needed… and you did indeed see me denounce all incidents of white-against-black racist abuse. I made a very public unambiguous statement — right here on this blog — right where it counts, condemning all occurrences of white abuse of black people.

            Besides, that’s completely irrelevant. Let’s just say that I’m the bad guy you say I am… are you really trying to tell me that represents an excuse for you to be an equally bad, or worse, guy?

            Worse, you say? I never in my life, ever, not even once, even hinted at a desire to wipe all members of a race off the planet.

            You have. Remember your response to “diary?” Just to remind you, it was something along the lines of, “Yeah, they’ll probably blame it (their own extermination) on the blacks or Hispanics or something.”

            Best,

            — x

          7. A blog in which, seemingly, very few people have heard of. And yes, you’re the bad guy here. In fact, you almost sound like a complete psychopath. Almost. Lol

          8. Dude: do you even read what I write ever? I told you that our aim is to fly way under the radar, and we do that completely successfully.

            You and many, many others have tried to find out where we live, where we work, where work from, and have never even come close, and you won’t.

            Best,

            — x

          9. Lol! You really don’t understand, do you? It’s not how many read your blog, it’s who reads your blog!

            If you only knew… 🙂

            Best,

            — x

          10. Oh, and one more thing. You’re just a blogger as well and on certain blogs, like mine, you were just an aggravating troll. That’s why you were rejected.

          11. Nope.

            In all my exchanges on your blog, I was the least rude, the least racist, the least obnoxious, the most polite participant. Every time. By far.

            You don’t know it, but a well-known national debate coach is a friend of mine. I frequently ask him to assess my interactions with others on other blogs and on our own. I do that so that I can be sure to debate correctly, and not do things that would allow others to call me the very things you always call me… “troll,” etc.

            He’s been brutally honest, and pointed out some instances where I stepped over lines of decorum. At those points I’ve always apologized. Bottom line: I’ve always been the most polite participant in any interactions I’ve ever had on your blog.

            I was “rejected” because I won those arguments, and you and your friends didn’t like that.

            Best,

            — x

          12. No. You were booted, because you made offensive comments and were being an insensitive a-hole. Your responses were problematic, and you refused to be held accountable for them. So, you had to go.

          13. Nope. I was the most polite participant in all exchanges on your website.

            You didn’t like losing the argument, and you definitely didn’t like the fact that I showed I know more about the black experience in America, and about black history in general.

            Best,

            — x

          14. Is that an attack on my character? If it is, I’ve heard worse. Is it an attempt to read my mind? Okay. I never had that done before.

            But back on topic. I was there when you were in Abagond’s blog and read what you said. Here’s how it started.

            It was on a post entitled “Was Hitler evil?”

            Noneya said:

            i hear a lot about how we live on indian land, and I agree. As soon as i finish college i’m leaving america–back to England. You should join me, and leave for africa. None of us belong here.

            Here’s your response:

            Noneya: I wish you luck. Ready for a prediction? If you were to leave for Africa, you’ll be back very shortly thereafter.

            It’s good that you wished Noneya luck, but you didn’t have to leave the rest of that remark. That invokes fear and is insulting to Africans.

            Yes, yes, yes. I know you will argue against that, but if your mother were to tell you how wrong that is, would you still argue against her, even so far as to call it silly and/or stupid?

            Furthermore, you linked the post to your blog entitled, “The Race Addicts Defend Hitler”, the ‘race addicts’ referring to Abagond and his commenters. You wrote this insane and erroneous rant about how we defend Hitler’s actions which was NOT the case. You just twisted the words of the blog in your right wing, pseudo-patriotism favor to make us out to be racists in your favor.

            Your only argument seem to be based on the premise that we’re the real racists, and somehow we deserve attention for our “racism” more than those who are white. How on Earth can black people be racist against whites when most money and power are in the hands of a handful of white people? Black people never caused the genocide of millions of white people, nor have they colonized or enslaved large groups of Europeans or destroyed their societies and/or their environments to make them richer.

            I could point out the things whites have done against POC that have been way worse than anything POC, as a whole, have done against white people. And most of us don’t want revenge. We just want people like you to stop with the BS, listen to us and not fight us when all we want is a change for the better. Our progression will not promote your oppression.

          15. You said:
            Is that an attack on my character? If it is, I’ve heard worse. Is it an attempt to read my mind? Okay. I never had that done before.
            My Response:
            Uhhhhhhhhhhh… whuh? Will you please try to write coherently?
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            But back on topic. I was there when you were in Abagond’s blog and read what you said. Here’s how it started.

            It was on a post entitled “Was Hitler evil?”

            Noneya said:
            i hear a lot about how we live on indian land, and I agree. As soon as i finish college i’m leaving america–back to England. You should join me, and leave for africa. None of us belong here.
            Here’s your response:

            Noneya: I wish you luck. Ready for a prediction? If you were to leave for Africa, you’ll be back very shortly thereafter.

            It’s good that you wished Noneya luck, but you didn’t have to leave the rest of that remark. That invokes fear and is insulting to Africans.

            Yes, yes, yes. I know you will argue against that, but if your mother were to tell you how wrong that is, would you still argue against her, even so far as to call it silly and/or stupid?

            My Response:
            My response was perfectly polite. Just out of curiosity… where’s Noneya now? And, how does my prediction look? I’m guessing that she might be bck in England, but she’s not in Africa. There are no populations struggling to get to Africa. Mhy response told the truth. If the truth “invokes fear,” then that means that the truth needs to be told all the more. My mother never would have told me not to tell the truth.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            Furthermore, you linked the post to your blog entitled, “The Race Addicts Defend Hitler”, the ‘race addicts’ referring to Abagond and his commenters. You wrote this insane and erroneous rant about how we defend Hitler’s actions which was NOT the case. You just twisted the words of the blog in your right wing, pseudo-patriotism favor to make us out to be racists in your favor.
            My Response:
            None of that is true. The effect of Abagond’s post was to pretend that white people somehow were as bad as Hitler. There was no moral wrong in beating up that idea as I did. It was grotesque, racist, sick. I pointed that out, and I was proven right by the hyper-defensive response by the racists on his blog.

            “You just twisted the words of the blog in your right wing, pseudo-patriotism favor to make us out to be racists in your favor.” This is incoherent. However, I’ll try to extrapolate. I twisted no words. Abagond is a racist and a coward, and it is a moral imperative to call out the things that such bad people, like the race addicts on Abagond’s blog say.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            I could point out the things whites have done against POC that have been way worse than anything POC, as a whole, have done against white people. And most of us don’t want revenge. We just want people like you to stop with the BS, listen to us and not fight us when all we want is a change for the better. Our progression will not promote your oppression.
            My Response:
            • You said: “I could point out the things whites have done against POC that have been way worse than anything POC, as a whole, have done against white people.”
            Response: And, yet, I proved to you that there were twice as many white slaves in Africa as there were black slaves in America. Okay.
            • You said: “And most of us don’t want revenge.”
            Response: Those in the RGI wants revenge.
            • You said: “We just want people like you to stop with the BS, listen to us and not fight us when all we want is a change for the better.
            Response: The ones in the RGI want revenge and power.
            • You said: “Our progression will not promote your oppression.
            Response: The RGI wants to oppress white Americans. And, you don’t know whether white oppression would be my oppression or not. 🙂 Your friend ‘diary’ wants all white Americans to die… very violently. The vast, vast, vast, vast, vast majority of white people want nothing but progress and happiness for black Americans. Full stop.

            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            Best,

            — x

        2. Oh, and if you actually were to read what I write, you’d see that there’s nothing whatsoever in any of what I write that’s even remotely congenial to any supremacists whatsoever. When are you going to write something serious, BW?

          Best,

          — x

        3. Two quick questions:

          (1) Do you approve of what the guy in South Africa said?
          (2) What do you find objectionable about my thought that you should never replace something bad with something worse?

          Best,

          — x

          1. Okay… so since you agree with the basic premise of the piece, are you “parroting the sentiments of white nationalists and their allies” too, as you say the piece does?

            Best,

            — x

          2. Once again, you’ve shown why no one can have a conversation with you. You know good and well that’s not what I was saying. So, I appreciate it if you don’t twist my words.

          3. Wait… my premise — pretty obviously — was that we shouldn’t replace something bad with something worse.

            Having said that, you then said that I sounded like some kind of white nationalist, or an ally of white nationalists.

            You later said that you agree with my basic premise. What are we left to think?

            By the way, I’m okay with your taking back your initial reaction about my sounding like a white nationalist, and no hard feelings. 🙂

            Best,

            — x

          4. Lol!

            That makes you the racist you pretend not to be. Mind you, I knew that, I just wanted to give you an opportunity to prove me wrong.

            Best,

            — x

          5. I wasn’t arguing. You’re like a guy at a bar looking for a fight. You’re obsessed with arguing with those you deem are leftists.

            If that’s trying to “read your mind” or “attack your character”, like they say, grow a pair and stop whining. I thought you said that I don’t hurt your feelings. They must’ve felt something you keep making such retorts. You keep coming close to contradicting yourself.

          6. And it’s funny you continue calling me racist when you live in a town where articles have claimed it to be one of the most racist in the state.

          7. World HQ is, indeed, in Connecticut. It’s kind of an inside joke with our small, but increasingly influential think tank. I don’t think a single post of ours has ever originated from Connecticut, though. None of our writers live or work there, and Connecticut is only the very last hop — of many — for our posts on the way to the internet.

            You don’t know very much about how the internet operates, do you? I could make my posts appear to originate from England, or Amsterdam, or France, or anywhere in the world. I simply conceal the actual place of origin of the post behind a flurry of hops and re-directs, and that’s it. However, as you correctly surmised, the last hop is always from Connecticut.

            I don’t mind explaining it to you, because I’m pretty sure you don’t know what I’m talking about, and besides I keep readership down so that we can all maintain our anonymity.

            Best,

            — x

          8. Wow! You seem to be oblivious how condescending you sound.

            “You don’t know very much about how the internet operates, do you?”

            You may argue that it’s just text, but people have emotions, and worded in this way, you sound like a know-it-all. Believing people won’t get offended by this and other statements sounds like a sign of a mental illness. Either that, or you’re so sheltered, you really don’t know how to socialize with others without stirring up emotions and are permanently oblivious as to how one cannot disconnect emotions when on the internet. Whatever the case may be, I have a feeling you’re just like this in real life, and I really feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with your high-and-mighty attitudes.

            Anyway, don’t insult my intelligence. I’ve learned how IP addresses work.

          9. But, you seem to think that you know where I am, and where my colleagues are, when it’s the easiest thing in the world to conceal that.

            Furthermore, I even told you that I was hiding where we are, and yet, you still seem to insist that you know where I am, and where we are. You don’t.

            You apparently have not learned how IP addresses work, if you don’t understand how easy it is conceal oneself on the internet.

            You said: “You may argue that it’s just text, but people have emotions, and worded in this way, you sound like a know-it-all.

            Response: Okay. That is, of course, not my problem.

            You said: “Believing people won’t get offended by this and other statements sounds like a sign of a mental illness.”

            Response: Nope. Precisely the reverse. It’s a sign of mental health. Being offended by someone else’s “statements” is, indeed, a sign of mental illness. Dude: live in real life.

            You said: “Either that, or you’re so sheltered, you really don’t know how to socialize with others without stirring up emotions and are permanently oblivious as to how one cannot disconnect emotions when on the internet.

            Response: Lol! More silly, irrelevant speculation.

            You said: “Whatever the case may be, I have a feeling you’re just like this in real life, and I really feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with your high-and-mighty attitudes.”

            Response: More idle, silly, meaningless, worthless speculation. Lol! Dude: Are you ever going to say something that’s worth something? You know: make an argument against the premise of this post, instead of whining about how much you dislike me? Try it, Surprise me.

            Best,

            — x

          10. Okay… you’re not a white nationalist, but it does sound as if you agree with the basic premise of my piece, and I thank you for that.

            I’m curious, though… can you point out to me the passages that you think “parrot white nationalists or their allies?”

            I’ll be happy to clarify, since I’m not remotely sympathetic to the goals of white nationalists.

            Listen, dude, you know my heart’s in the right place… so far, your only quarrel with me is in how I express myself. I am absolutely okay with hearing that I need to express myself better.

            You often chastise me for the tone of my posts, but if I’m “parroting white nationalists” in your opinion, then you’re also upset with the language and words that I use.

            I need to know what language and words are doing that, because I’d never want to do that.

            Best,

            — x

          11. Because you leave open the possibility that you didn’t mean what you said, and were just being… wait for it… a troll. 🙂

            Dude, I know you’re just a troll, but I don’t care. Hint: first hint that you’re a troll: your constant accusations that I’m a troll. It’s generally the trolls who cry, “Troll!” loudest and most frequently.

            You troll with the ideas and thoughts that I swat aside easily, and that allow the others who read our exchanges to see (1) how you comport yourself, and (2) how to deal with people who don’t have a substantive argument to offer.

            These exchanges are seen by far more than those you see in the counters. 🙂

            Best,

            — x

          12. That makes sense, just like you crying ‘sexist’ the loudest is one, or the one who calls me a racist the loudest is one. Let’s take it a step further and say the one who cries about how horrible the left is may be one himself.

            That was fun.

          13. Lol!

            Silly, kind of inane, dumb… but fun.

            Let’s give you a small tutorial in this. The easy example is the Communist movement.

            Communists whose very ideology calls for the conquest of the world by the ideology were the loudest at proclaiming how much they loved peace. The Communist movement — the most horrific abusers of human rights in the history of the world — were the loudest at calling themselves “liberation movements.”

            Some of us on the right were accusing the Communists of being the human rights abusers that they actually were… and were pointing out that they were deflecting from their own human rights abuses by accusing everyone else of human rights abuses.

            That’s how the Left, racists, and the rest of the branches of the vast, whining American Grievance Industry, operate. And that’s how propagandists have operated for all of human history.

            In the end, as it turned out, we were right all along, and the Communists were (and are) horrific human rights abusers. And the ones screaming, “Racism!” are the racists, etc.

            As it turns out, we on the Right who are accusing the Left of racism are right again. We on the right who are accusing the Race Grievance Industry of racism are right again.

            Your friend “diary” said something that no white person could ever get away with, and you endorsed it. Sorry. You’re a racist. She said something that no one should ever be able to get away with

            I don’t mind, because I expect it from you, and because your brand of racism is socially acceptable in America, and because you don’t have the strength of character to denounce an obscene rant on your own blog. It’s a rant that never would have been condoned on this blog.

            Best,

            — x

          14. I find it astounding how you love to insert the left into almost every reply you make even when it doesn’t call for it. The left this. The left that. The left, the left, the left.

            It won’t matter if I tell you I don’t consider myself a leftist or a conservative, would it? I don’t stick to one side of the political line. There are some things conservatives believe in that I agree with. I’m pro-life, but I’m also pro-choice. I value life, but I also value the right to choose. After all, I don’t see how you can support life and still back wars, the very thing that takes lives no matter how you want to spin it.

            I also believe in a small and functioning government with competent people. However, it’s funny how the right would switch beliefs and will attempt to take over and expand governments if, and only if they’re in office. But if it’s a case of liberals and Democrats, that’s when the conversation changes.

            I believe in free speech, but I also believe in responsibility. In other words, I hold true to the lessons I was taught from my parents. If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. Basic life lesson. You can say what you want, but always expect a response depending on what was said. If it’s good, expect praise. If it’s bad, expect anywhere from curse words to a punch in the face or worse. It’s the world we live in, like it or not. There is no political affiliation to something that parents tell their children.

            Lastly, I believe in working hard and succeeding. But I also believe that there are exceptions to the rule in that we should help lift each other up. A typical conservative, opposes welfare. But at the same time, he/she believe in tax cuts for the rich. In a way, that’s like saying that the rich and wealthy need more help than the poor and struggling.

            Again, I said if you believe that. I didn’t say you did. That was just in case you need to PROOFREAD.

            Whether you believe it or not, I am against racism. I’m more prejudice than racist, and truth be told, you can’t be born in this land without harboring some racist views.

            But that doesn’t make you evil bad you embrace it willingly. I don’t embrace my prejudices, and I don’t deny them either. Denying them adds to the problem. It’s like ignoring a festering wound and hope that it will heal on its own. That’s not how it works. It will never work that way no matter how hard you wish it.

            You can go on with your anti-left rants, accusations about me being a racist and constantly bring up that comment. To me, you sound like a ranting and raving, possibly-conspiracy theorist/loon with no grasp of reality or empathy to listen without declaring the other side to be wrong automatically. Some things are not for debate. There is no argument. And there is no logic in your assertion that I’m racist or that black person are more racist against white people, nor are there any hint of causes as to why that is. You seem to draw quick-and-easy conclusions, produce simple boxes to categorize groups and people based on affiliation and/or statement. And you believe that calling an idea or a person ‘stupid’ is somehow objective or an intelligent observation. But most of all, everything I accuse you of, you accuse me of. You will twist what I’ve said here and respond in a way to make yourself the winner and superior of a non-debate which is more like another edition of the “Why I dislike the Left” show.

            Also, your mind appears to be locked in this thick case where no differing opinions that you suspect are “leftist” may enter. It is not wise to consider such and disagree based on prejudices and preconceived notions. And you have, almost 99% of the time, have done it and demonstrated your close-mindedness which is a contradiction to what “free thinking” essentially is.

            But if that’s how you want to think, I have no right to tell you otherwise. You think how you want to, and you will allow me to think what I want to.

          15. You said:
            I find it astounding how you love to insert the left into almost every reply you make even when it doesn’t call for it. The left this. The left that. The left, the left, the left.

            My Response
            Well. Okay. The Left is a movement that seeks to control every aspect of all our lives. It is the home of racism, of “sexism” (a fiction) of all the pettinesses, and inter-personal cruelties that happen on a national scale. Your own racism, your own pettiness, your refusal to provide positive arguments, all while telling me about all the things you hate about me, are all very left-wing characteristics, and tactics. Your interactions with me always focus on, for the most part… political issues, and you write, chapter and verse, all the talking points of the Left. Even when your arguments have been soundly slapped down, you then go straight to the leftist’s typical stock in trade: the personal insult, questioning my character, calling me a liar, calling me ignorant, calling me stupid. What might have been frustrating for you is that you were never able to hurt my feelings — despite valiant efforts — and you never will be. However, the Left is the reason for racial strife in this country, and you are a participant in that racial strife, and your views are wrong, and they’re very much leftist views. The Left has always been the other participant in any interaction you and I have ever had
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            You said:
            It won’t matter if I tell you I don’t consider myself a leftist or a conservative, would it? I don’t stick to one side of the political line. There are some things conservatives believe in that I agree with. I’m pro-life, but I’m also pro-choice. I value life, but I also value the right to choose. After all, I don’t see how you can support life and still back wars, the very thing that takes lives no matter how you want to spin it.
            My Response
            Dude: You can’t be “pro-life” and “pro-choice.” Don’t pretend you don’t know what that means. As it pertains to you on the pro-death side, about pre-born babies, what if you’re wrong? You don’t have to answer that to me, but you do have to answer it to yourself. You can’t “value life” and value the “choice” to take it. Sorry. You’re just playing silly word games to try to answer questions you’re, apparently, afraid to tackle in any depth. In the meantime, while you bury your head in the sand, babies are being slaughtered. Lots of black babies — in fact a disproportionate number — too. So, yes, your assertion that you’re neither of the Left or the Right has weight, but you act like a leftist in nearly everything you say, and in all the actions you take online. Your censorship of my friends and me, your mind-reading, your pretense that my friends are me…. all classic leftist stuff! Whether you like it or not, you’re a default lefitst. Your pretending that you’re not a leftist is like Shaquille O’Neal pretending he’s not tall, because a tree is much taller. Dude: you’re a leftist. Worse, you’re a completely typical leftist… I once wrote you a post predicting your point-of-view on every pressing issue of the day. I told you how you’d think and how you’d vote, and I got every single one right. It was easy…. all I had to do was to repeat the leftist talking points as it pertained to a given issue.

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            You said:
            I also believe in a small and functioning government with competent people. However, it’s funny how the right would switch beliefs and will attempt to take over and expand governments if, and only if they’re in office. But if it’s a case of liberals and Democrats, that’s when the conversation changes.
            My Response
            Uhhhhh… huh? The “small government” thing is the very first time you’ve ever deviated from your general leftism. I agree with a general disdain for anyone who endeavors to expand government. Look, no one’s a “pure leftist,” or a “pure rightist,” and I’ve long been uncomfortable with the inadequacy of those labels. I don’t know what the rest of your paragraph means.
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            You said:
            I believe in free speech, but I also believe in responsibility. In other words, I hold true to the lessons I was taught from my parents. If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all. Basic life lesson. You can say what you want, but always expect a response depending on what was said. If it’s good, expect praise. If it’s bad, expect anywhere from curse words to a punch in the face or worse. It’s the world we live in, like it or not. There is no political affiliation to something that parents tell their children.
            My Response
            You’re close. You should have said, “I believe in free speech.” Full stop. Period. No but. Ever. I think it was the great Russian writer Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn who said, “Free speech either is, or it is not.” He was right. (It might have been the great Garry Kasparov.)

            “If you can’t say something nice, don’t say anything at all” is a nice rule if you’re discussing baseball, or musical taste…. not if you’re discussing public policies that affect the lives, prosperity and happiness of millions. Then you don’t need to be polite, you need to be right.

            I agree about the lessons that parents give to their children.
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            You said:
            Lastly, I believe in working hard and succeeding. But I also believe that there are exceptions to the rule in that we should help lift each other up. A typical conservative, opposes welfare. But at the same time, he/she believe in tax cuts for the rich. In a way, that’s like saying that the rich and wealthy need more help than the poor and struggling.
            My Response
            “I believe in working hard and succeeding.” Okay. Then, why on earth would you argue as vociferously as you did against my “five points?”

            Yes, a typical Conservative opposes welfare. Do you know why? The reason is simple: because welfare, as it’s currently configured, harms people. Conservatives disapprove of harming people. Conservatives do, indeed, believe in tax cuts for the rich… and for everyone else. This is another lefist talking point of yours. The problem is that the top 1% pay about 40% of all taxes. The top 10% pay about 60% of all taxes. The rich — read it well — are the ones paying the taxes. The vast, vast, vast, vast, vast majority of all taxes. “Tax cuts for the rich” could be phrased “Tax cuts for taxpayers,” and it would say nearly exactly the same thing. Everyone needs help. The poor more than the wealthy, of course, need help. That’s why we should do things that help, not things that harm… like welfare, high taxation, heavy-handed, oppressive government, etc. All the leftist “prescriptions” for “solving problems” have ended up… harming people. That should stop.
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            You said:
            Whether you believe it or not, I am against racism. I’m more prejudice than racist, and truth be told, you can’t be born in this land without harboring some racist views.
            My Response
            Dude: Stop playing these silly word games with yourself. If you’re prejudiced, then you’re a racist. Simple as that. And, yes, you can be born in this country without harboring any racist views. Most are. It’s easy. It’s the least racist, least prejudiced country in the world. Your assertion is silly, a silly opinion, with no evidence to support it, and with a mountain of evidence that refutes it. I reject it categorically, because it’s both stupid, and meaningless. Whuh, you say? Meaningless!?! Yep. Meaningless. It’s unprovable, undisprovable, and even if it were true there’s nothing that can be done about it. Bottom line: it’s hogwash. Oh, and it’s very leftist hogwash. It’s the kind of substanceless, meaningless thing that a dyed-in-the-wool leftist would say. Bottom line: Maybe you can’t be born in this country without harboring some racist views, but I was born here, and I harbor no racist views.
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            You said:
            But that doesn’t make you evil bad you embrace it willingly. I don’t embrace my prejudices, and I don’t deny them either. Denying them adds to the problem. It’s like ignoring a festering wound and hope that it will heal on its own. That’s not how it works. It will never work that way no matter how hard you wish it.
            My Response
            You said: “But that doesn’t make you evil bad you embrace it willingly.” That doesn’t mean anything. Embracing racist views, really, does make you bad. Sorry. If you neither embrace, nor deny, your own racism, then you should be able to… reject it, and get rid of it. 🙂 And, it’s true that ignoring a festering wound won’t make it go away. That’s why you need to reject your racism, and get rid of that festering wound from your soul.
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            You said:
            You can go on with your anti-left rants, accusations about me being a racist and constantly bring up that comment. To me, you sound like a ranting and raving, possibly-conspiracy theorist/loon with no grasp of reality or empathy to listen without declaring the other side to be wrong automatically. Some things are not for debate. There is no argument. And there is no logic in your assertion that I’m racist or that black person are more racist against white people, nor are there any hint of causes as to why that is. You seem to draw quick-and-easy conclusions, produce simple boxes to categorize groups and people based on affiliation and/or statement. And you believe that calling an idea or a person ‘stupid’ is somehow objective or an intelligent observation. But most of all, everything I accuse you of, you accuse me of. You will twist what I’ve said here and respond in a way to make yourself the winner and superior of a non-debate which is more like another edition of the “Why I dislike the Left” show.
            My Response
            • You said: “You can go on with your anti-left rants, accusations about me being a racist and constantly bring up that comment. To me, you sound like a ranting and raving, possibly-conspiracy theorist/loon with no grasp of reality or empathy to listen without declaring the other side to be wrong automatically.”
            Response: Okay. It wouldn’t be the first time you were wrong. Won’t be the last. Get it? 🙂
            • You said: “Some things are not for debate. There is no argument.”
            Response: In the area of opinion, there’s always room for debate. Always. No exceptions.
            • You said: “And there is no logic in your assertion that I’m racist or that black person are more racist against white people, nor are there any hint of causes as to why that is.”
            Response: Wrong. I’ve given you many, many, many things that support my conclusions. And, it’s obvious that black people are more racist than whites. The cause, as I’ve explained many times before, is the propaganda from the Left, in whose interest it is to stoke racial tensions to keep black Americans voting Democrat. By the way, the 90+% vote for Democrats that black Americans do should be a massive source of embarrassment for you, BW. If I were you, I’d make massive efforts to change that. In any other country, when a population — any population — votes one way at a level that high, we understand that it’s because they’re being forced to… or else.
            • You said: “You seem to draw quick-and-easy conclusions, produce simple boxes to categorize groups and people based on affiliation and/or statement.”
            Response: Nope. I’ve never argued in any quick and easy way. You know that, and you should be ashamed at saying that.
            • You said: “And you believe that calling an idea or a person ‘stupid’ is somehow objective or an intelligent observation.”
            Response: As you know, I never call anyone stupid. Very sloppy and shoddy of you, BW. Not to call a stupid idea “stupid” is simply irresponsible. And, of course, the word “stupid” indicates that the assertion that contains it is subjective, not objective. Of course.
            • You said: “But most of all, everything I accuse you of, you accuse me of.”
            Response: Dude: you really don’t get it, do you? That’s what the left always does: they accuse you of what they themselves are doing.
            • You said: “You will twist what I’ve said here and respond in a way to make yourself the winner and superior of a non-debate which is more like another edition of the “Why I dislike the Left” show.”
            Response: Okay. I don’t need to make such assertions… I simply prove it by demonstrating it. 🙂
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            You said:
            Also, your mind appears to be locked in this thick case where no differing opinions that you suspect are “leftist” may enter. It is not wise to consider such and disagree based on prejudices and preconceived notions. And you have, almost 99% of the time, have done it and demonstrated your close-mindedness which is a contradiction to what “free thinking” essentially is.
            My Response
            Lol! Ouch! Dude: Proofread! Do me a favor, re-read that paragraph and tell me if you think it’s coherent enough to merit a response. 🙂
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            You said:
            But if that’s how you want to think, I have no right to tell you otherwise. You think how you want to, and you will allow me to think what I want to.
            My Response
            Okay.
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            Best,

            — x

          16. Oh, and I forgot the another thing I have in common with conservatives. Believe it or not, I love America. That’s right. I love America even though it doesn’t love me back. Knowing your snarkiness, you’ll have some smart-alex remark like a country doesn’t love you, because it’s not a person. But that’s a fail in trying to deflect and needlessly argue when there’s no call for it. But I digress, I love this country. Most black people you deem are liberal love this country. Hell, most people you consider are leftists love this country. I can’t speak for them, but I’m sure the people you consider are of the left whom you relentlessly bash on your blog are more patriotic than you care to comprehend.

            But speaking for me, I’m patriotic, and as such, it’s my duty as an American – no, as a human being to resist evil in any and all forms, and to do that, I have to face this nation’s darkest truths. I confront truths because to get deeper to the understanding of the world, not to confirm my bias.

            Before you start again with the usual repetitive retorts and claw at my legs for an argument you want to claim is wrong for the billionth time, let me say that – again – I love white people as I love all people, especially mine. But me loving who I am, my people and what we are as descendants of our African ancestors does not – DOES NOT mean that we hate you and white people. And that certainly doesn’t mean we hate white people because they’re white.

            For the trillionth time, we abhor the habits many of you do, and your responses, as they’ve always been, exhibit those habits. It’s wasn’t due to you winning arguments because (a) you twist responses and the truth to favor you, (b) you don’t argue fair, (c) you argue like a bratty teenager and (d) you can’t argue what’s objective. Some things you demand an argument CAN’T BE ARGUED. Whatever a conservative tells you is not necessarily true, especially if it somehow confirms your thinking or ease any kind of guilt you may have.

            And by the way, saying this country is the greatest is an OPINION, not a fact. It’s a lesson you should’ve been taught in grade school. Honestly, if you can’t tell the difference between the two, you’re in no position to insult anyone’s intelligence as you love to do as probably a way of avoiding your apparent lack of knowledge. Even if you’ve traveled the world, it’s still an opinion. You’re entitled to have it as I’m entitled to mine. But don’t confuse the two and expect others to agree with you or be considered a “leftist” and a problem in your world.

            Again, I love this nation despite it’s laundry list of flaws and sins, even its sins. But that doesn’t mean I stay quiet and allow any form of injustice to go unchallenged. That’s not what it means to be patriotic, nor does it mean to believe in things that soothe my conscience and confirms my prejudices. Doing the latter is a coward’s play, something that a true conservative would look down upon with disgust as it shows a disrespect to a nation and insults ones intelligence. I said TRUE conservative, not today’s garden variety of hypocrites.

            And most liberals aren’t that much better.

            I will conclude with this before you reply or copy, paste and say how everything I said was wrong as usual. I take responsibility for EVERYTHING I’ve said here and on my old blog. I don’t delete that comment you obsessively bring up, because (a) I’m not going to waste my time doing something you would like me to do on my own blog, (b) That’s almost a form of censorship which you are against but want me to do, and (c) I know what I meant when I commented on it, and I know me better than you.

            Are you going to go into your usual state of whiteness and declare yourself as a better judge of my character than myself in another fruitless attempt to accuse me of the things you do?

            I honestly don’t know why you do this or why I care. At this point, any assumptions you come up with will predictably be demeaning, self-serving, egotistical, small-minded and baseless as it shows that you can’t talk to someone whose mind is stuck in a certain place and refuses to move.

            I would unblock you, but you’re too toxic for my blog and refuse to see it as it shows in your perpetual and possibly pathological denial. Also, I’m starting another one for which you’re not invited to participate as you seemingly don’t know, don’t care or just plain enjoy being condescending and play innocent.

            I seriously hope you’re not this toxic in real life,

          17. This is your best post ever, BW. I’m proud of you.

            So much that’s good in it, that I’m almost reluctant to point out what’s wrong.

            However, at some point soon, I’m going to have to point out the serious errors.

            In the meantime, though, congratulations on your best post ever.

            I’m honored that you did it on our blog, in response to a post of mine.

            Best,

            — x

          18. My God. You’re ignorance is mind-bloggling and frustrating. Plus, you either you must know it and find pleasure in it in some way, or you’re incredibly blind. But you seem to prefer to live in your own bubble. So, I’m out.

            I could care less if you count this as “another win” for you conservatives against the evil left, something you declared me as even I though I explained myself. It’s nothing special as black people have to explain themselves everywhere they go. We’re always questioned. But according to your irrefutable knowledge of the world. That doesn’t happen. It’s a leftist lie, part of some conspiracy against the right, white people in particular, and I must be crazy as I, a black man, doesn’t know what it’s like to be black. Go figure.

            It’s funny how often black people try to work hard as conservatives scold them to, they’re questioned if they succeed if they got their by affirmative action or if they’re still working class, they’re questioned why they didn’t work hard enough. How about the times we’re accused of ignoring this thing called “black-on-black crime” despite us fighting to end or deter crime for decades now. But it’s still not enough to you conservatives, huh?
            And how about us wanting revenge for all the oppression we’ve endured since we were taken from our homeland. Conservatives seem scared as hell of a race war. Yes, we want revenge. Oh wait, no we don’t. We’re not bloodthirsty. Most of us could care less about what you guys are afraid of, and since how you’re still the majority in this land, your fears are unfounded. If anything, we have more to fear from white people. A lot more. But of course, I’m wrong, huh?

            I guess all those police brutalities and polices murders against black people are all in my head. I guess all those incidents where white people harassed black people entering public places for no good reason are also unfounded and are totally not race based. I guess white folks calling the cops on us for merely being in a coffee shop, a gym, a store, a restaurant or even at a park having a cookout is justified just because. And one more thing, I guess I imagined the terrible church shooting that took the lives of nine innocent black people by a lone racist.

            Yes, I don’t know what I’m taking about. I’m touched in the head. I’m not right as a brotha who’s deemed liberal. I’m the problem.

            That was my way of telling you to go f### yourself and go straight to h###. And maybe someone needed to tell you that and not worry about what you’ll say afterwards.

            Adieu.

          19. You said:
            My God. You’re ignorance is mind-bloggling and frustrating. Plus, you either you must know it and find pleasure in it in some way, or you’re incredibly blind. But you seem to prefer to live in your own bubble. So, I’m out.
            My Response:
            Lol! That’ll teach me for saying something nice to you! Well! Since you’ve been a complete jerk in this post, then I guess I have no need to be as polite as I nearly always am, so I guess I get to unleash on you. 🙂

            First: I’m still the only one who actually made any arguments. You’ve been mainly… a jerk. You did nothing but call me names, and whine about how I express myself. None of which means anything as it pertains to the ideas I actually posted. And, if you re-read that paragraph again, you’ll see that you engaged — again! — in mind-reading. Again, you can’t read minds. You should stop trying. .You should evaluate everything you ever write, and if it constitutes your telling someone, or someones, what they’re thinking, feeling, know, or you’re questioning their character, then you should — immediately — delete it.
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            You said:
            I could care less if you count this as “another win” for you conservatives against the evil left, something you declared me as even I though I explained myself. It’s nothing special as black people have to explain themselves everywhere they go. We’re always questioned. But according to your irrefutable knowledge of the world. That doesn’t happen. It’s a leftist lie, part of some conspiracy against the right, white people in particular, and I must be crazy as I, a black man, doesn’t know what it’s like to be black. Go figure.
            My Response:
            First: The phrase is: “I couldn’t care less…” As far as your being a leftist is concerned, are you really ticked off that I consider you a leftist? Here’s the deal: If the end result is that your efforts and your voting patterns assist the left, then you’re a de facto leftist. Your efforts help perpetuate leftism as well as racism, two intellectually bankrupt states-of-mind, so, yes, you’re a leftist. Sorry. Do something that actually reduces the size and scope of government in all our lives, and actually diminishes rancor between the races, and I’ll have nothing but respect for you.

            Black people don’t have to explain themselves to anyone, and you know it. In a truly free country, no one would ever have to explain himself to anyone else. We need to make that kind of free country in America. You and your kind — the Race Grievance Industry — are doing everything possible to reduce everyone’s freedom of speech, of association and, finally, of thought. That has to stop.

            You said: “We’re always questioned.” Oh? About what? And, is that a bad thing? And, can you explain why? Outside of imaginary hostility from a bunch of people who have done nothing but inundate you with apologies, artificially elevated opportunities, money, food, tributes, respect and a well-greased path? With all that, can you explain the fact that you’re in vastly more danger from other black people than from any white person in the country? Can you explain the horrible rate of crime, of broken families, of violence, of cruelty that comes from black people… directed at other black people? Seriously? I’d love to know where all that comes from. Because it doesn’t come from any white hostility directed toward black people.

            As far as your knowing “what it’s like to be black,” the only thing you know, with any degree of confidence is what it’s like to be you. Yes, I’m white, but I’m reluctant to generalize in any way on “what it’s like to be white,” because it’s different for every other white person in the country. So, yes, I know better than you “what it’s like to be black” — in general — because I’ve studied race relations for years. You’ve shown that you have no idea about key aspects of black life in America, and that you don’t care to learn them. You’ve told me that dozens of times. And each time I reminded you that your closed mind is not a good thing. Each time you did that, I was able to solidify my claim that I know the black experience in America better than you. You know who else knows “what it’s like to be black” in America way better than you? Abigail and Stephen Thernstrom. They wrote “America in Black and White.” You should read it. Its worth it, and very eye-opening. And, no, they’re not “Conservative writers.” They’re scientists. If you don’t read them, then you have no claim to pretend that you know more than I do about “what it’s like to be black.” Sorry. Let me know when you’ve read it.
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            You said:
            It’s funny how often black people try to work hard as conservatives scold them to, they’re questioned if they succeed if they got their by affirmative action or if they’re still working class, they’re questioned why they didn’t work hard enough. How about the times we’re accused of ignoring this thing called “black-on-black crime” despite us fighting to end or deter crime for decades now. But it’s still not enough to you conservatives, huh?
            My Response:
            As to affirmative action, I want to get rid of it. You and I are in complete agreement on this topic! It gigantically and automatically disadvantages black people because, as you say, people — perfectly legitimately — question whether black success is actually earned. We should get rid of affirmative action right away.

            As to black-on-black crime, yes, people like you tell people like me to shut the $%#&%$ up when we mention it. Then you call us racists. The problem: it’s still there, and if we white Americans try to address it, leftist black Americans call us racists. We’re trying to save lives! Lives of people who look a lot like you! If you won’t let us do anything about it, then — DUH!!! — black Americans need to do something about it! Not one more dead black person! Not one more! Do you understand? Do you get it? Not one more! Fix it! Make black people STOP killing other black people! Do it NOW! And, no, your efforts are NOT enough for us Conservatives. Duh!!! Because black people are still killing black people — in cities run by Democrat and Black mayors — for decades. So, no, what you’re doing is not enough. STOP black people from killing other black people! Do it now! NOW!!! I’m so fed up with your stupid excuses for black people’s killing other black people. BW: People are dying!!! Make them cut it out! No more of your feeble excuses. Are you a man or a mouse? Are you an American or not? These are Americans! YOUR fellow Americans. And if you won’t allow us to help stop the killing, then… YOU HAVE TO!
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            You said:
            And how about us wanting revenge for all the oppression we’ve endured since we were taken from our homeland. Conservatives seem scared as hell of a race war. Yes, we want revenge. Oh wait, no we don’t. We’re not bloodthirsty. Most of us could care less about what you guys are afraid of, and since how you’re still the majority in this land, your fears are unfounded. If anything, we have more to fear from white people. A lot more. But of course, I’m wrong, huh?
            My Response:
            Yes. You’re wrong.

            Except where you said: “Yes, we want revenge.” The American Race Grievance Industry does, indeed, want revenge. You’re a supporter of the RGI.

            By the way, the expression is: “Most of us couldn’t care less.” Please think about what you write.

            Everyone should be afraid of a race war. Especially since it’ll be because of issues fabricated by the Left and by the RGI.

            Yes, you have more to fear in America than white people do. The problem is that you need to fear your fellow black man more than anything, or anyone, else. Sadly, the statistics prove this simple truth. This is the major tragedy of black Americans, and this should cause every American to do everything he possibly can to stop that. However, black people howl that whites are racists when white people point out that black people are dying violent deaths at the hands of other black people.
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            You said:
            I guess all those police brutalities and polices murders against black people are all in my head. I guess all those incidents where white people harassed black people entering public places for no good reason are also unfounded and are totally not race based. I guess white folks calling the cops on us for merely being in a coffee shop, a gym, a store, a restaurant or even at a park having a cookout is justified just because. And one more thing, I guess I imagined the terrible church shooting that took the lives of nine innocent black people by a lone racist.
            My Response:
            Guess what: More white people are killed by police — in real terms and per capita — each year than black people. What? You didn’t know that? It’s true, though. What do you have to say about that? You never hear about those instances where black people harass white people for the very same thing you — rightly — complain about. Why? Because the press isn’t interested in it. But it happens all the time. Remember Christopher Lane? (link) Of course you don’t! The press isn’t interested in such things. Time to handle your other things using bullet points:
            • You said: “white folks calling the cops on us for merely being in a coffee shop” — happened once that you’re aware of. Furthermore, you have no idea whether that Starbucks incident happened because of race. No one ever found that out, and Starbucks still pulled the PR stunt. That was a business decision — to try to pay off the RGI which was potentially going to be violent at random Starbucks locations — nothing else. Oh, and the Starbucks incident officially happened because Starbucks did have a rule against being in the store without making a purchase. The black people in question didn’t buy anything.
            • You said: “the gym” — has never happened that I’m aware of. Presumably it does happen, but, again, context is necessary. I’m guessing you made it up. Even if it happened hundreds of times, though, it means nothing if it has happened more to white people. Do you even know that? Have you ever tried to get real, meaningful context for any of these incidents? Serious question. Don’t bother to answer, I already know the answer.
            • You said: “a store” — rarely happens, and needs context as well. Dude: these generalizations are meaningless absent context.
            • You said: “a restaurant” — same as for “a gym,” and “a store.”
            • You said: “at a park having a cookout” — same as for “a gym,” and “a store,” and “a restaurant.”
            • You said: “And one more thing, I guess I imagined the terrible church shooting that took the lives of nine innocent black people by a lone racist. — Ummmm… thank you for making my point for me? Yes, he was a lone racist. If he were to catch up to the toll taken by black Americans against other black Americans, then he’d have had to kill… TENS OF THOUSANDS. Dylann Roof will meet his maker soon enough, proving pretty conclusively that white Americans will not put up with other white people killing black people — for any reason. Now, you need to answer the question as to why you put up with black people killing other black people. You make excuse after excuse after excuse after excuse after excuse, and you whine and whine and whine and whine and whine about the perfectly irrelevant, completely forgetting that BLACK PEOPLE ARE DYING! At the hands of other black people. And you’re complicit in it, and you should be ashamed of yourself, BW: FREAKIN’ DO SOMETHING! Can you tell that I’m a bit ticked off? 🙂 You give me the big kiss off, when you’re a willing accomplice in the DEATHS of thousands of black people, and I’m tired of your stupid excuses, while BLACK PEOPLE ARE DYING!!!
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * -* –

            You said:
            Yes, I don’t know what I’m taking about. I’m touched in the head. I’m not right as a brotha who’s deemed liberal. I’m the problem.
            My Response:
            One at a time:
            • Correct: you don’t know what you’re talking about. There’s no shame in that — if you admit it, and are willing to find out what you’re talking about.
            • No, you’re not touched in the head. You’re a follower. You’re an uncritical follower of toxic jerks who are fomenting conflict between the races for their own ends. Unfortunately, that makes of you a toxic jerk. 🙂
            • You’re “not right” because you’re a leftist. 🙂 Get it?
            • Yes, as a racist, you are part of the problem.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * -* –

            You said:
            That was my way of telling you to go f### yourself and go straight to h###. And maybe someone needed to tell you that and not worry about what you’ll say afterwards.
            My Response:
            Keepin’ it classy, BW! Do you really think you’re the first to go trashy on me? What a shame that you show yourself to be such trash! That is, of course, language that I’d never permit myself to use. And, of course, I’d expect that no one would ever “worry about what I’ll say afterwards.”

            Who worries about something so silly as what other people say?!?
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * -* –

            You said:
            Adieu.
            My Response:
            ‘Bye.

            Oh, and one more quick thing. I still like you, BW. I always will. I remain convinced that you’re not really stupid, that you’re choosing to be stupid for whatever reason. All the things you accuse me of are the things you’re guilty of. For example: you’re the one with the closed mind. I’ve been giving you truths that are not even remotely rocket science. You’ve shown a remarkable resistance that has only two possible explanations: (1) you’re an idiot, or (2) you choose not to evaluate those truths through the lens of objectivity or logic.

            I refuse to believe that #1 is true. That leaves #2.

            I like you, and I always will. You were a complete jerk in your post, and I pulled no punches in my reply. It gave me no pleasure to take you to the woodshed like that, but you needed it. I posed several questions to you, and I challenged you in several different ways. They distill down to this: (1) do you really want to solve the problems of black Americans and, (2) are you willing to do what it takes actually to solve those problems? And I challenged you to do it… or show that you’re less than a decent person.

            I believe you’re a decent person. I believe you’re a really good person. I hope you’ll prove me right. Good luck!
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * -* –
            Best,

            — x

          20. Oh, and “mind-blogglingly” was funny! I wish it had been on purpose!

            One more indication that you should proofread! 🙂

            By the way, if you’re really intelligent, as I suspect you are, then one day you’ll thank me for the whole “proofread” episode. 🙂

            Best,

            — x

          21. You said:
            Oh, and I forgot the another thing I have in common with conservatives. Believe it or not, I love America. That’s right. I love America even though it doesn’t love me back. Knowing your snarkiness, you’ll have some smart-alex remark like a country doesn’t love you, because it’s not a person. But that’s a fail in trying to deflect and needlessly argue when there’s no call for it. But I digress, I love this country. Most black people you deem are liberal love this country. Hell, most people you consider are leftists love this country. I can’t speak for them, but I’m sure the people you consider are of the left whom you relentlessly bash on your blog are more patriotic than you care to comprehend.
            My Response:
            I’m glad you love America! Really glad. She plainly loves you back, and always has. You’re wrong about “most black people who are liberal.” Sorry. They hate America. And you’re wrong about leftists. They hate America too, and are doing their level best to bring her down, and to destroy her. I can speak for them, because I was one of them. They’re dirt. And they run this country. And they’re absolutely not patriotic in the least. You’re speaking through your hat here, BW.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            But speaking for me, I’m patriotic, and as such, it’s my duty as an American – no, as a human being to resist evil in any and all forms, and to do that, I have to face this nation’s darkest truths. I confront truths because to get deeper to the understanding of the world, not to confirm my bias.
            My Response:
            Okay.
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            You said:
            Before you start again with the usual repetitive retorts and claw at my legs for an argument you want to claim is wrong for the billionth time, let me say that – again – I love white people as I love all people, especially mine. But me loving who I am, my people and what we are as descendants of our African ancestors does not – DOES NOT mean that we hate you and white people. And that certainly doesn’t mean we hate white people because they’re white.
            My Response:
            Lol! You love white people? When was the last time you said that?!? [clearing throat] If you’re a racist, then you have animosity toward white people because of the color of their skin. Duh! 🙂 Please try to steer clear of the silly colorful language like “clawing at my legs.” You know I’ve never done any such thing literally, and that I’m as gentle with you as I can possibly be in writing. So, stop being so sillily dramatic.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            For the trillionth time, we abhor the habits many of you do, and your responses, as they’ve always been, exhibit those habits. It’s wasn’t due to you winning arguments because (a) you twist responses and the truth to favor you, (b) you don’t argue fair, (c) you argue like a bratty teenager and (d) you can’t argue what’s objective. Some things you demand an argument CAN’T BE ARGUED. Whatever a conservative tells you is not necessarily true, especially if it somehow confirms your thinking or ease any kind of guilt you may have.
            My Response:
            Ummmm… Huh?

            BW: PROOFREAD!!!! This was nearly entirely incoherent. I gather that you — for the 10,000th time — don’t like how I express myself. I did understand letter (b). That one’s simple: if my argument is bad, then there’s no unfairness on earth that I can do to conceal that. No “unfair” way to argue can ever beat a substantive response. Ever. You should see if you can scare up something substantive to argue against what I’ve said. Oh, and all things can be argued. No exceptions. And: I have no guilt.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            And by the way, saying this country is the greatest is an OPINION, not a fact. It’s a lesson you should’ve been taught in grade school. Honestly, if you can’t tell the difference between the two, you’re in no position to insult anyone’s intelligence as you love to do as probably a way of avoiding your apparent lack of knowledge. Even if you’ve traveled the world, it’s still an opinion. You’re entitled to have it as I’m entitled to mine. But don’t confuse the two and expect others to agree with you or be considered a “leftist” and a problem in your world.
            My Response:
            • Yes, my saying that this is the greatest country that has ever been is an opinion. I dare you to name another. Go ahead, I’ll wait. I’m waiting. Else: I challenge you to go live in the other greatest country that’s ever been. Or, if that country’s in the past, then give me some persuasive evidence of what that country was. 🙂
            • As you know, I never, ever, ever, not ever insult anyone else’s intelligence. I might insult someone’s post, but that’s it. Don’t fabricate things.
            • Thanks for admitting that I’m entitled to my opinion. It’s a big admission for a leftist.
            • The last of your paragraph was incoherent, because you don’t… PROOFREAD!!! So, proofread, BW. Seriously, do it!
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            Again, I love this nation despite it’s laundry list of flaws and sins, even its sins. But that doesn’t mean I stay quiet and allow any form of injustice to go unchallenged. That’s not what it means to be patriotic, nor does it mean to believe in things that soothe my conscience and confirms my prejudices. Doing the latter is a coward’s play, something that a true conservative would look down upon with disgust as it shows a disrespect to a nation and insults ones intelligence. I said TRUE conservative, not today’s garden variety of hypocrites.
            My Response:
            You said: “Again, I love this nation despite it’s laundry list of flaws and sins, even its sins.”
            • Ummmm… okay. Please feel free to name the country that has no sins. 🙂
            You said: “But that doesn’t mean I stay quiet and allow any form of injustice to go unchallenged. That’s not what it means to be patriotic, nor does it mean to believe in things that soothe my conscience and confirms my prejudices.
            • Ummmm… okay. Please feel free to write things that are coherent. If I’ve understood it correctly, then I agree with all of it.
            You said: “Doing the latter is a coward’s play, something that a true conservative would look down upon with disgust as it shows a disrespect to a nation and insults ones intelligence. I said TRUE conservative, not today’s garden variety of hypocrites.
            • Okay. Most of this is meaningless. Yes, there are hypocritical Conservatives. We Conservatives call them: “Not Conservatives.” I gather that you are among us real Conservatives? I welcome you into our number.
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            You said:
            And most liberals aren’t that much better.
            My Response:
            Actually liberals — leftists — are a lot worse. 🙂 A lot worse. They, like you, are killing black people. And I’ve proven it to you.
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            You said:
            I will conclude with this before you reply or copy, paste and say how everything I said was wrong as usual. I take responsibility for EVERYTHING I’ve said here and on my old blog. I don’t delete that comment you obsessively bring up, because (a) I’m not going to waste my time doing something you would like me to do on my own blog, (b) That’s almost a form of censorship which you are against but want me to do, and (c) I know what I meant when I commented on it, and I know me better than you.
            My Response:
            Nope. You don’t take responsibility for everything you say. You have endorsed the fantasy of one of your friends that all white people die a violent, excruciating death. All men, women, children… and babies. Absent a categorical rejection of that obscene fantasy, you’re a vile, disgusting, loathsome, hitler-esque person, and you know it.

            I don’t want you to delete that comment, I want you to leave it and reject it publicly. I’ve never said anything different. Yes, you know what you meant when you ENDORSED THE FANTASY THAT ALL WHITE PEOPLE WOULD DIE A VIOLEND, EXCRUCIATING DEATH. All men, women, children and… babies. I never want you to “delete that comment.” I want you to leave it… and to reject it. A real man would. A real man would make a statement that would show that he’s not a complete jerk. 🙂 Here, I’ve given you yet another chance! What is my problem?!? 🙂
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            Are you going to go into your usual state of whiteness and declare yourself as a better judge of my character than myself in another fruitless attempt to accuse me of the things you do?
            My Response:
            “Whiteness” means nothing. I will, though, go into my usual state of humannness — you know… what you and I share together? Dude: I can’t call you ” a jerk, except with me. You’ve been a real jerk to me. I don’t know if you’re that way, but you were a total jerk with me.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            I honestly don’t know why you do this or why I care. At this point, any assumptions you come up with will predictably be demeaning, self-serving, egotistical, small-minded and baseless as it shows that you can’t talk to someone whose mind is stuck in a certain place and refuses to move.
            My Response:
            You don’t care. 🙂 A quick point: You should never, ever, ever, not ever, be in “a certain place where your mind refuses to move.”
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            I would unblock you, but you’re too toxic for my blog and refuse to see it as it shows in your perpetual and possibly pathological denial. Also, I’m starting another one for which you’re not invited to participate as you seemingly don’t know, don’t care or just plain enjoy being condescending and play innocent.
            My Response:
            Dude: I love you, but I don’t care whether you “unblock” me. The blocking or unblocking thing is a reflection on you, not on me. Your silly speculation about pathology is irrelevant. As to your starting another blog, with me not being invited… okay. 🙂

            I’m not condescending… I just whomp you in our debates. 🙂 Likely because you don’t really even try… you just whine about how I express myself.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            I seriously hope you’re not this toxic in real life, (sic)
            My Response:
            Seriously, why would you even care?
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            Best,

            — x

          22. Why would I care? Maybe because much of what you said IS toxic. Maybe because someone needs to say so. Even though you don’t think that it’s harmful, that doesn’t make it true. Must of what you’ve written is offensive whether you think so or not. And I had the guts to tell you that and to tell you how much of a narrow-minded jackass you’re being, because YOU ARE. Your McCarthyism-based view of the nation and perhaps the world only serves to fuel paranoia and provoke further division among people only to serve not conservatism but those who benefit from your docility and gullibility to listen to those who see you as nothing but a pawn to spread fear, hate and terror, even if your blog is hardly known by a lot of people.

            But if that’s the world you want to live in, go ahead. I just don’t want to be a part of it.

          23. You said:
            Why would I care? Maybe because much of what you said IS toxic. Maybe because someone needs to say so.
            My Response:
            Hogwash! The truth is never toxic. And since you’ve never advanced an argument, except to whine about how you don’t like my tone, you’ve never suggested that what I’ve been saying is not the truth. If, though, what I’m saying is the truth, as your refusal to argue against my points indicates, then, by definition, you’re being toxic. The point: Your constant running away from the actual point of my post shows both your ignorance of the topic, and your need to deflect from that ignorance. That’s what’s toxic. 🙂 And, do you really think you’re the first try to deflect in the face of superior thinking and arguments? Really?
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            Even though you don’t think that it’s harmful, that doesn’t make it true.
            My Response:
            Words are never harmful. People can imagine they’re harmful, as you have, but that’s all it is: imagination.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            Must of what you’ve written is offensive whether you think so or not.
            My Response:
            Nope. The truth is never offensive. And since you’ve never been able to make a coherent argument that what I’ve said is untrue then, by definition, your statement is wrong. Again. Dude… at least try to make a point or an argument, or else stop sniveling.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            And I had the guts to tell you that…
            My Response:
            Nope. You were, and are, gutless. You came here, where we welcome all viewpoints, and said what you pleased. There’s no courage involved in that. Guts, or courage, would be if you were to let me comment on your blog — when you re-open it. But… you don’t have the guts for that, trust me.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            …and to tell you how much of a narrow-minded jackass you’re being, because YOU ARE.
            My Response:
            Yep. You sure enough called me the silly name… then, you failed to back up the claim, making of your words nothing more than silly name-calling. Any numbskull can do that. It’s the first sign that you have no argument.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            Your McCarthyism-based view of the nation and perhaps the world only serves to fuel paranoia and provoke further division among people only to serve not conservatism but those who benefit from your docility and gullibility to listen to those who see you as nothing but a pawn to spread fear, hate and terror, even if your blog is hardly known by a lot of people.
            My Response:
            Wellllll… that was incoherent! Let’s see:
            • You called me a “McCarthyite.” Okay. Whatever. Think what you want, you’re just spewing here, because you’ve got nothing of substance to say. And, again, name-calling is the first sign of someone who’s lost the argument.
            • You accused me of “fueling paranoia, and provoking further division among people.” Response: Whatever. The truth — you know, the thing you’ve never shown any evidence that I’m not saying? — never fuels paranoia or provokes division, except in bad people, or people of ill will. Those people need to hear the truth more urgently than anyone else.
            • You said: “only to serve not conservatism but those who benefit from your docility and gullibility to listen to those who see you as nothing but a pawn to spread fear, hate and terror” Response: This was incoherent. You really don’t like to proofread, do you? However, let’s make a good faith effort to parse this mess. #1: I’m guessing that few would accuse me of “docility,” so I’m figuring that you don’t know what you were trying to say here. #2: The “gullibility” thing is just funny. Especially since you’re the one with all the beliefs that unaccompanied by any actual justifications. I figure that if you had any real justifications for your beliefs, then you’d have offered one or two by now? And your pointing to links and other leftist, racist “thinkers” would be the actual definition of the word “gullible.” So, I’m thinking you didn’t think through the use of that word either. Finally, #4: The truth never spreads fear, hate or terror, except in those who are bad people, or people of ill will, like racists, or black supremacists, or the like. If you could provide some substantive indication that what I say is actually not correct, then you can start making accusations… not before. You should never call names, though. It’s ungentlemanly, and the first sign you’re out of arguments.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            …even if your blog is hardly known by a lot of people.
            My Response:
            Lol! Again, you have no idea #1, how many people actually see our blog, or #2, who actually sees the blog. Let’s put it this way: it’s exactly where we want it to be. 🙂
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            But if that’s the world you want to live in, go ahead. I just don’t want to be a part of it.
            My Response:
            Yes, I know. You’re much more comfortable in the world of racism and imagined victimhood. Growth is scary, and the Left, racists, and fake victims are more scared of growth than anyone else. You keep ducking your head in the sand of your racist beach and pretendinng you’re “howling for justice!” when you’re really just “whining for approval.” 🙂
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            Best,

            — x

          24. You know what I think? I think you’re so lost in your anti-left rage you don’t know what’s true. To you, what’s true is what confirms your bias or makes you feel good or superior for the sake of ideology. And when someone counters them, become hostile and in denial as if you’re threatened. To you, it may sound insane, but based on your blog and your responses, it’s a pretty descent theory that you think in fear.

            If words are never harmful as you claim it is, why do you constantly bring up that comment even after I apologized to you? Obviously, based on your obsession to bring it up all the time, it touched you in a way. Why else won’t YOU let it go? Denial and hostility will only prove my point further, you know that. Yet, you’ll do it anyway.

            There is no argument here. Only those afraid of the actual world would want to fight it without facing it.

            1. I bet you don’t even know what McCarthy is without googling him as your lessons of the world stem from 1950’s television and your history comes from a grade school textbook, either that or watching Charlie Brown specials.

            2. Again, the only “truth” you want comes from the right and only the right. It’s obvious that you won’t accept anything you deem is from the left, but there are such things as INDEPENDENT SOURCES that are neither left nor right. But based on your reasoning, there is no such thing. There is only right and left, and if it’s not from the right, it’s from the left. At least that’s how you come off as.

            3. You’re not interested in facts that question your view. Just admit it. Tell the truth, if you believe in truth. You can’t argue to others about truth when you lie to yourself. Also, you hardly provide any sources for your points and claims so others can see for themselves. So, that makes most of what you say suspect. At least I’ve provided links to my sources on my blog. I don’t see much with yours aside from a video or link here and there, but much of it is just what you say.

            4. Why provide you with any evidence when you KNOW you’ll shoot it down from the get go? Why bother when it’s obvious of what will happen? You’d rather me admit defeat then provide any source, even if it’s from an accredited academic source. All that shows is intellectual dishonestly, your pathological denial of actual facts provided by experts and an aversion to actually learning something. You may say or think that you want to learn more about such and such, but be honest, unless it comes from a source like Fox News, the Drudge Report or the National Review, you’re not interested in stepping outside the box, even if it’s from an independent source.

            Just admit it already.

          25. You said:
            You know what I think? I think you’re so lost in your anti-left rage you don’t know what’s true.
            My Response:
            Lol! You’re wrong. And you’re trying to read my mind again. Credit to you: you don’t give up. Good thing the pop definition of “crazy” is just that. If it were true, you’d be certifiable. 🙂
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            To you, what’s true is what confirms your bias or makes you feel good or superior for the sake of ideology.
            My Response:
            Lol! Nope. To me, what’s true is what’s true. It has nothing whatsoever to do with ideology. Duh! And you’re trying to read my mind again. I’ll tell you what makes me feel superior, okay? Anytime you ever try to tell someone else what he’s thinking, you’re being incredibly arrogant, condescending and… stupid. Don’t do it. 🙂
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            And when someone counters them, become hostile and in denial as if you’re threatened.
            My Response:
            Nope. As a writer, I’ve never felt threatened in the least.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            To you, it may sound insane, but based on your blog and your responses, it’s a pretty descent theory that you think in fear.
            My Response:
            Lol! Nope. It’s a stupid theory. However, it does have the virtue of being perfectly irrelevant, so no harm done. Man! You do spend a lot of time trying to psychonalyze me! You never have the right, ever again, to accuse me of being obsessed by something!
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            You said:
            If words are never harmful as you claim it is, why do you constantly bring up that comment even after I apologized to you? Obviously, based on your obsession to bring it up all the time, it touched you in a way. Why else won’t YOU let it go? Denial and hostility will only prove my point further, you know that. Yet, you’ll do it anyway.

            My Response:
            Finally! Something interesting to talk about! Obviously the words are not what bothered me. The sentiment behind them is an evil, racist, destructive sentiment. It’s the same sentiment as that held by the worst mass murderers in the history of the world. Even if everything you’ve ever said about my character were true, that would make me a jerk. Your friend, I believe, truly would like for all white people to die a violent death as her fantasy suggested. The worst you’ve ever said about me is that you think I’m a jerk. The worst about your friend is that she harbors psychotic fantasies… to which she openly admitted, by the way!

            Yes you apologized to me… here. I appreciated it, and I said that to you. But there was no risk to you in apologizing to me here. Where you needed to apologize was on your blog. That would have been an act of courage, character and integrity. No, I had no problems with ‘diary’s’ words… but her sentiment is evil and disgusting. You have an opportunity to make right something that on your blog was very, very, very, very wrong, and very, very, very, very bad. You still have that opportunity.

            By the way, if you were to go to your blog (of course it’s closed now, so that ship has sailed) and make it right, then I’d admit that I’ve underestimated you… I’d do it here, and/or on your blog. Unitl you do that, though, ‘diary’s’ assertion remains a blot on your soul; a blot that you should get rid of. If you were a real man, you’d challenge ‘diary’ to retract it, and to apologize to me, and to all people. It was a grotesque sentiment, and it remains a blot on you and on ‘diary,’ because she said it, and you endorsed it.
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            You said:
            There is no argument here. Only those afraid of the actual world would want to fight it without facing it.

            My Response:
            That doesn’t mean anything.
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            You said:
            1. I bet you don’t even know what McCarthy is without googling him as your lessons of the world stem from 1950’s television and your history comes from a grade school textbook, either that or watching Charlie Brown specials.

            My Response:
            Nope. Bad attempt at snark too. Worse, are you really trying to tell me what I read, what television I watch, radio I listen to, or publications I read? Really? You do know that’s pretty pathetic right? Especially since we have a series right here called “NPR Watch.” You’re funny when you get desperate, BW.
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            You said:
            2. Again, the only “truth” you want comes from the right and only the right. It’s obvious that you won’t accept anything you deem is from the left, but there are such things as INDEPENDENT SOURCES that are neither left nor right. But based on your reasoning, there is no such thing. There is only right and left, and if it’s not from the right, it’s from the left. At least that’s how you come off as.
            My Response:
            Lol! You are funny! The only truth I want is… the truth. I don’t care a jot whence or from whom it comes. I accept all truth I hear from the Left. All of it. No exceptions. If it comes from the Left, and it’s the truth, then I accept it. Period. Furthermore, I consume independent sources constantly. More importantly, I consume good independent sources.

            As far as this phrase: “There is only right and left, and if it’s not from the right, it’s from the left. At least that’s how you come off as.” — Okay. I don’t mind that you have that impression. You’re wrong, but you’re wrong about a whole lot more than just your assessments of who and how I am. 🙂
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            You said:
            3. You’re not interested in facts that question your view. Just admit it.
            My Response:
            More silly mind-reading. I’ll tell you what I’m interested in, okay? Duh! 🙂 Plus, your assertion is dumb on the face of it. I’m deeply interested in facts that counter my point-of-view. Why don’t you produce one or two? You know, to try something new?
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            You said:
            Tell the truth, if you believe in truth. You can’t argue to others about truth when you lie to yourself.
            My Response:
            Pretending that you know when someone else is lying is, yep, you guessed it: mind-reading! And, only a moron would pretend to know when someone else is lying in print! Are you a moron, BW? Otherwise your pretending to know what I know about what I say is just stupid, and you should cut it out. So that you never do anything embarrassing like that again, I’ll tell you again: I’ve never lied to you. That is to say: I believe fully every statement that I’ve ever made to you. All set, then? And, of course, you’d have no possibility under the sun of ever knowing how truthful, or not, I am with myself. Seriously, BW, you should avoid such transparently stupid assertions.
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            You said:
            Also, you hardly provide any sources for your points and claims so others can see for themselves.
            My Response:
            Correct: we’ve been over this before, and you know the reason for my not playing dueling sources with you. If you expect to be able to carry on an intelligent discussion, you do have to be able to provide some of the intellectual horsepower yourself!
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            You said:
            So, that makes most of what you say suspect.
            My Response:
            Nope. By definition, opinion can never be “suspect.” Only reasoning based on less than solid foundations can be. Since I don’t do that, also by definition, what I say is not “suspect.” You can choose to disagree with me, but then you have to back up that disagreement with solid reasoning, or with facts that counter mine. Since you haven’t done that, you have no way to conclude that anything I say is “suspect.”

            Forthermore, I don’t need sources to provide my opinions for me. I inform myself of the facts, and I draw my own conclusions. Therein lies the difference between you and me, BW: You allow others to tell you what to believe, while I find out for myself.
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            You said:
            At least I’ve provided links to my sources on my blog. I don’t see much with yours aside from a video or link here and there, but much of it is just what you say.

            My Response:
            Here we go… Simply stated: your “sources” have always been way out there lunatics. Your use of them practically made my case for me! It would be as if I went to a KKK website and found a bunch of quotes, and used them as a “source.” Those are opinion sources, not fact sources. I use fact sources to feed my opinions. You appear to use other people’s opinions to drive your own. You tell me you believe something because some other reactionary, bigoted leftist, who believes as you do, believes it. I’ve visited some of your sources, and they’re typically RGI lunatics, racists and black supremacists. Sorry, but I don’t let bigots drive my opinions. You do. Remember: you’re still on record at your blog as having endorsed a fantasy that pines for the violent death of all white people on the planet. Don’t talk to me about sources.
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            You said:
            I don’t see much with yours aside from a video or link here and there, but much of it is just what you say.
            My Response:
            Correct. We’ve been through this. Your sources have generally been cr*p. If I were to use sources, you’d call them cr*p. There’s no point.
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            You said:
            4. Why provide you with any evidence when you KNOW you’ll shoot it down from the get go?
            My Response:
            Or… you could provide evidence — or reasoning and logic — that I couldn’t shoot down. As I’ve done for you. For example: my five points. Why don’t you try that?
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            You said:
            You’d rather me admit defeat then provide any source, even if it’s from an accredited academic source.
            My Response:
            Again, I’ll tell you what I’d prefer, not the other way ’round. An accredited academic source offering an opinion means nothing. An opinion is nothing more than an opinion. I use facts, reasoning and logic to construct my opinions, not the opinions of others.

            Seek out fact sources, and draw some conclusions. Then you might have something. Otherwise, you’re not serious.
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            You said:
            All that shows is intellectual dishonestly, your pathological denial of actual facts provided by experts and an aversion to actually learning something.
            My Response:
            Hogwash. And stupid hogwash at that. I’ll tell you to what I’m averse, not the other way ’round. Got it? Learn it! 🙂 I’ve been passionate about learninng new things since I was a youbg boy. Let’s not forget that it has always been you telling me how I was never going to change your mind, or teach you anything. You were admitting to me that you have no desire to consider new things! And you did that and said that dozens and dozens of times. You’ll always lose that particular topic, BW!
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            You said:
            You may say or think that you want to learn more about such and such, but be honest, unless it comes from a source like Fox News, the Drudge Report or the National Review, you’re not interested in stepping outside the box, even if it’s from an independent source.
            My Response:
            Thank you. By admitting that you don’t use those sources, you confess that you’re not “interested in stepping outside the box, even if it’s from an independent source.” As mentioned before, we have a feature on this very blog — “NPR Watch” whose very existence, and the hundreds of posts associated with it, prove that I seek out and consume other sources of information. Dude: you really ought to stop this. It’s getting kind of embarrassing.
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            Best,

            — x

          26. It seems you’re only defenses are that I’m wrong, I try to read your mind, that I need to proofread and that I’m losing or that you’re winning.

            First off, as mentioned in the excerpt from the writing I used, you love to use the “mind-reading” defense. All it does it just deflect, or at least attempts to. But that defense is not unique. Other people have gone through it before, especially in conversations with white-minded people, who use that in order to make the other person feel guilty usually out of feeling threatened or exposed.

            You saying that I’m wrong or that you’re wrong is your catchphrase. You say it all the time, even in other blogs. You don’t know how it makes you sound like a know-it-all. Either that, or you do know and don’t care.

            I admit that I’m wrong in a lot of things, even in the subject of race. I’m not wrong when I say that we both live in a society where racism is the norm and has been for years against POC, NOT WHITES. Your need to tell me that I’m wrong on that point is just another attempt to not only avoid reality, but to block any civil conversation about the subject. It makes those who’re genuinely concerned about ending racism alienated and shows that you’re one of those people unwilling to participate and are part of the problem.

            You studying race relations mean NOTHING when it comes to learning about what it’s like to be black in America. To know what it’s like you have to BE black in America. No amount of books can fully let you grasp on the experiences that black people have faced since day one, especially if they’re not written by black people or if they are written by black people. Maybe if you would actually converse with black people instead deciding what side of the political aisle they’re on before you can declare them worthy of listening or just a black liberal out to ruin white America, you would learn more. But you won’t. Like with me and others, you declare that we’re wrong from the start and tear us down without giving a consideration on where we come from. That’s why we see you as just as a problem as those in the alt-right.

            No. Do not tell me I’m wrong. I know that”ll be within the first words of your response. I’m not wrong about how you see the world, because you put it out on your blog. If you want to blame someone for that, BLAME YOURSELF.

            Also, I can’t get over that comment you made about black liberals. You really don’t know black people as much you may think you do or say. Black people on the left don’t want to destroy America. They love this country as well, but they want change, and change doesn’t mean destruction. Making blanketed and harmful statements like that makes you sound like a racist who loves black people as long as they kiss your ass and jump when you say so. THAT’S WRONG.

            As far as NPR Watch goes, I’m aware of those, but it’s mostly to tear them down as well. You see them as a liberal news source and, as such, an enemy to the country. To you left is bad and right is good. You developed a dichotomous view of the world and it shows in YOUR BLOG.

            But if that’s your view, so be it. All I ask is that in the future, keep my name out of your blog as I have with yours. Deal?

          27. You said:
            It seems you’re only defenses are that I’m wrong, I try to read your mind, that I need to proofread and that I’m losing or that you’re winning.

            My Response:
            Nope. You’re wrong because you’re wrong. I point it out to you. You need to proofread because when you don’t, what you write is incoherent. Every time you try to tell me what I’m thinking, yes, you’re trying to read my mind. You try to do it all the time. You have a serious problem in your reasoning. A problem of which you need to divest yourself, or you can never be a serious commenter or thinker. You’re always telling me how entire peoples who are very different from you think, what they feel, how they reason, what their deepest feelings are, what drives them, etc. Then, if someone were even to hint that he or she knows how black people feel or what they’re like in the most general of senses, you do the How dare you?!? thing. In this very post you wrote: “…especially in conversations with white-minded people”. BW, by your very definition you couldn’t possibly have any idea what “white-minded” means, or who’s “white-minded.” By your very definition you couldn’t possibly have the slightest clue how white people think. Yet, you presume to tell me all the time what they think. I should say, “How dare you?!? but I don’t think it’d register with you. Instead, I’ll tell you the real truth:
            No one is the same as any other person. All black Americans are different from all other black Americans, who are different from all other white, red, yellow, green, purple or any other color Americans; who themselves are different from all other people on the face of the planet. Here’s the real deal: you haven’t the teentsiest, weentsiest clue how anyone — other than you — thinks. The sooner you realize that, the sooner you’ll stop making an ass of yourself. I personally will welcome that day wholeheartedly!

            As for proofreading, if your writing is shoddy and careless, then it’s likely that your thinking is the same way. We write what we think, BW. If your thought patterns are like what you write, then you need to stop doing public commentary.
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            You said:
            First off, as mentioned in the excerpt from the writing I used, you love to use the “mind-reading” defense. All it does it just deflect, or at least attempts to. But that defense is not unique. Other people have gone through it before, especially in conversations with white-minded people, who use that in order to make the other person feel guilty usually out of feeling threatened or exposed.

            My Response:
            There’s no such thing as a “mind-reading defense,” so I couldn’t possibly use it. You can never, ever, ever not ever, not once ever, tell me what I’m thinking, feeling, what I know, how I am. Not ever. That’s simply true. Yet, you try to do it all the time, so I call you on it. And every time you’re wrong. You’ve never guessed correctly even once.
            I explained the term “white-minded” to you in the previous response. I guess that your use of it now means that you were just kidding when you told me that I can’t tell you about black people. So, here’s the deal: (1) You must never, ever, ever use the nonsense term “white-minded” ever again, or (2) you have to stop whining if I start telling you all about black people. You have no other choice. By your own logic.

            Writing “…who use that in order to make the other person feel guilty usually out of feeling threatened or exposed” is another attempt at mind-reading, and is therefore illegitimate.

            Yes, BW, you painted yourself into that sticky little corner. And, if you have half a brain, you’ll see that you do that all the time. More to the point, it’s not you painting yourself into those corners, but the internal contradictions of your own thought patterns and “reasoning.” What you say here is frequently contradicted by what you say over there, which contradicts something else you’ve said somewhere else. That’s just the way it is. The sooner you get rid of those dumb, internal contradictions, the sooner you’ll stop producing thought that wouldn’t pass muster in a third-grade civics class.
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            You said:
            You saying that I’m wrong or that you’re wrong is your catchphrase. You say it all the time, even in other blogs. You don’t know how it makes you sound like a know-it-all. Either that, or you do know and don’t care.
            My Response:
            Dude: if you’re wrong, then you’re wrong. It’s simple honestly to point it out.

            You’re wrong so frequently — because you’re a racist who supports other black supremacists — that I have to point it out often. Also, you tend to post these long screeds that contain so much that’s wrong that I constantly have to pull out the “You’re Wrong” stick all the time, and whack your posts upside their vowels! It’s the right thing to do.

            By the way: You’re wrong.
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            You said:
            I admit that I’m wrong in a lot of things, even in the subject of race. I’m not wrong when I say that we both live in a society where racism is the norm and has been for years against POC, NOT WHITES. Your need to tell me that I’m wrong on that point is just another attempt to not only avoid reality, but to block any civil conversation about the subject. It makes those who’re genuinely concerned about ending racism alienated and shows that you’re one of those people unwilling to participate and are part of the problem.
            My Response:
            Superb paragrah, BW! I agree with much of it. Here’s what’s wrong in it though: “we both live in a society where racism is the norm and has been for years against POC, NOT WHITES.” — Incorrect. American — and all of western — society has been favoring non-white minorities for more than half-a-century. This is beyond dispute.

            Your admission that you’re wrong “in a lot of things, even in the subject of race,” is a big one! Bravo! And right here and now, in front of many more than you might think, ( 🙂 )I admit that it required a big man to write that phrase! You just went up several BIG notches in my estimation, BW!

            You wrote also: “Your need to tell me that I’m wrong on that point is just another attempt to not only avoid reality, but to block any civil conversation about the subject.” This is incorrect. You’re simply wrong, and you have always been the one to break the rules of civility first. If you’re not wrong, then you should stand confidently on the pile of compelling evidence that you have to prove me wrong. Yet, you’ve never done that. All you’ve ever done is castigate me for the style of discourse I’ve used. I don’t mind such castigation, but it’s not an argument against my basic point that America is not a racist nation. Certainly not against black people, anyway! I have over and over and over again proven that point. I appreciate your tender solicitousness about whether or not my arguments are presented in such a way as to win over the reactionaries, but I don’t need it.
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            You said (in the same paragraph):
            It makes those who’re genuinely concerned about ending racism alienated and shows that you’re one of those people unwilling to participate and are part of the problem.
            My Response:
            You’re wrong.
            And, of course, telling me what I’m willing or unwilling to do is an unacceptable attempt at mind-reading. Seriously, BW: if you simply avoid ever commenting on your perception of the character or intelligence of your debate opponents, then you’ll simply do a whole lot better. Your debate oppoinents’ character is irrelevant to anything! In read debates, personal attacks are strictly forbidden. Attacks on what the other person says or writes are very much encouraged. Try it sometime.
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            You said:
            You studying race relations mean NOTHING when it comes to learning about what it’s like to be black in America. To know what it’s like you have to BE black in America. No amount of books can fully let you grasp on the experiences that black people have faced since day one, especially if they’re not written by black people or if they are written by black people. Maybe if you would actually converse with black people instead deciding what side of the political aisle they’re on before you can declare them worthy of listening or just a black liberal out to ruin white America, you would learn more. But you won’t. Like with me and others, you declare that we’re wrong from the start and tear us down without giving a consideration on where we come from. That’s why we see you as just as a problem as those in the alt-right.
            My Response:
            Lol! As good as your previous paragraph was, this one is awful. Where to start!
            • First: Black people are not special. No better nor worse than anyone else. They have no more special wisdom about anything under the sun than anyone else. They have no special insights that others don’t have. The sooner you realize that the better off you’ll be.
            • Next: You said: “To know what it’s like (to be black in America)you have to BE black in America” — This is incorrect. To know what it’s like to be black in America, you have to be… a person. Black Americans are simply… people. What they experience is nothing more than what actual people experience.

            Now, you’re going to go all “slavery,” and “Jim Crow,” and “segregation” on me, and I’ll respond with the simple truth: “If you wanted to know what it was like to be black in 1960’s or 1860’s America, then you had to have been black back then.” I’d agree completely with that.

            You all in the Race Grievance Industry are constantly pointing to things that have been long gone — for generations! — and pretending that everything is like that today. First: that points to the weakness of the entire Race Grievance narrative, and second: Sorry, it just isn’t that way anymore, as much as the RGI wants it to be.

            Why do they want to portray things today so inaccurately? Simple: (1) Free things, (2) validation for all their efforts, (3) excuses for failure. The pathologies in black America are serious, often deadly, and heart-breaking. And the leaders of the RGI won’t allow anyone to talk about them, without immediately howling, “Racism!”
            • Next: “No amount of books can fully let you grasp on the experiences that black people have faced since day one, especially if they’re not written by black people or if they are written by black people.” — Incorrect. If you were to read “Ameirica in Black and White” by the very white Stephan and Abigail Thernstrom, I guarantee you’d say that they understand being black in America way, way better than you do. Guarantee.
            Here’s another simple truth, BW: What you feel is composed of what you know as well as other influences. If you bother actually to inform yourself on the actual circumstances of black Americans today — as well as in a historical context — then your feelings will change. Especially those feelings pertaining to race relations. Now, I know that I’m presuming to tell you what you know. Well, I’m going out on a limb to say that if you had compelling arguments to prove me wrong, then you’d have used them by now, therefore I’m making so bold as to say that you’re largely ignorant of actual matters pertaining to black Americans. That is to say, of their economic, social, political and educational circumstances. If you knew about these things, you’d have used them by now. If you actually do know about these things, and haven’t used them, then you need seriously to question your own sanity. 🙂

            You said: “Maybe if you would actually converse with black people instead deciding what side of the political aisle they’re on before you can declare them worthy of listening or just a black liberal out to ruin white America, you would learn more. But you won’t.”
            My Response: That is an astonishingly stupid thing to say. Of course you’d have no possible way under the sun of knowing with whom I’ve conversed, or of the nature of those conversations. And, of course, you’d have no possible way under the sun of knowing what I will or won’t do. That’s a throwaway passage that really stunk up the place, BW! Never, ever write something so inane again!

            • Next: You said: “Like with me and others, you declare that we’re wrong from the start and tear us down without giving a consideration on where we come from.” — Incorrect. As you knoww, I never tear people down, just what they write. More sloppiness, BW! I don’t care where you came from. If what you say is wrong, then it would be wrong of me not to point it out. If you’re about to go and play in traffic, and I go to stop you, and the dude next to me says, “Wait! You don’t know where he’s coming from! Maybe they play in traffic where he comes from.” I hope you’d want me to tell him to shove off and to pull you out of traffic. That’s what I’m doing when I point out where your arguments go wrong — pulling you out of traffic; rescuing you from stupidity and inanity. You keep tossing away the life preserver! You should cut it out.

            • Last: You said: “That’s why we see you as just as a problem as those in the alt-right.” — #1: Who’s this “we” you speak of, and #2: they’re wrong, and #3: I don’t care. 🙂
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            You said:
            No. Do not tell me I’m wrong. I know that’ll be within the first words of your response. I’m not wrong about how you see the world, because you put it out on your blog. If you want to blame someone for that, BLAME YOURSELF.
            My Response:
            You’re wrong. They were the very first words of my response. Yes, you’re wrong about how I see the world. Dude: you can’t read minds! I’ll tell you how I see the world, not the other way ’round.

            Wait, wait… maybe I should play your little game and start telling you how you think! Oh, that’s right… I did. I told you that you’re a black supremacist, and you got all up in my rhetorical grill and told me you weren’t. I guess I should just reject your denial and tell you what you’re thinking anyway, right? That you’re a black supremacist, that you want all white people to die violent deaths (like your friend ‘diary’ whose grotesque fantasy you endorsed), that you’re a disgusting racist, that you’re a condescending, arrogant jerk, that you don’t like peanut butter, that you have inappropriate thoughts about small farm animals, that you think that the mother ship is out there waiting for you, that you hated your father and mother, and that your dog thinks your hair looks preposterous (hey, why stop at reading your mind!), that you secretly hang around in gay night clubs filled with people dressed like pixies, that you hate Cheerios and wish your downstairs neighbor would stop yelling at her parakeet.

            Well, that was fun! But there was nothing in there that resembled a coherent argument for anything. In the meantime, stop molesting small farm animals. And don’t deny it, because you do it, and I know you do it, in the very same way you know what I’m thinking and feeling!

            With all that said, you’re right about some things: I do put how I feel about the world in our blog; it’s now incumbent on you to read it and to understand it. If you’re going to tell me that I express myself poorly, I’m absolutely ready to hear that critique. Point it out, and I’ll be happy to make corrections, or to ask the author of the piece to make his or her point clearer.
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            You said:
            Also, I can’t get over that comment you made about black liberals. You really don’t know black people as much you may think you do or say. Black people on the left don’t want to destroy America. They love this country as well, but they want change, and change doesn’t mean destruction. Making blanketed and harmful statements like that makes you sound like a racist who loves black people as long as they kiss your a## and jump when you say so. THAT’S WRONG.
            My Response:
            Okay… what comment about black liberals? 🙂 Do try to give some information in your posts. I write a lot, so I might not be aware of the exact thing you’re talking about. When you say “Black people on the left don’t want to destroy America,” the only way you could say that is if you’re a “black person on the left,” something that you’ve denied forever. Are you no longer denying it? Otherwise, according to your own logic, you’d have no way whatsoever to know what “black people on the left” want. Furthermore, if you’re not a black person of the left, you’d have no way under the sun of knowing whether or not black people of the left love America. Some of them have said that they hate America, should we call them out as liars, and tell them that we know better what they love than they do?

            Quick point of definition: Change is always “destruction” of a sort. If it’s the improvement of something — the only change worth having — then it’s the destruction of something inferior. If, however, it’s something worse, or a different flavor of the same thing — black racism instead of the long defunct white racism — then it’d be a really bad thing to have that kind of change. Change is desirable if and only if it’s good change.
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            You said:
            As far as NPR Watch goes, I’m aware of those, but it’s mostly to tear them down as well. You see them as a liberal news source and, as such, an enemy to the country. To you left is bad and right is good. You developed a dichotomous view of the world and it shows in YOUR BLOG.
            My Response:
            Lol! I tear them down because they are a “liberal” organization. Transparently so. They’re not a “news organization.” If they were, they’d put out a product that would be news. “News” is nothing like what NPR does. It’s almost funny that they call it “news,” and one wonders that their listenership — who often characterize themselves in public as ever so sophisticated and “deep — would put up with such inanity packaged as news. You should read a short story called “The Emperor’s New Clothes”. It’s the story of NPR.

            However, our feature — NPR Watch — is also compelling proof that we listen — extensively! — to sources of information that are in opposition to what we think. Your inadvertent confession that you don’t watch FOX News prove that you don’t listen to sources of information that differ from your own point of view.

            Another point: Yes, the Left is bad, but the Right is not good. The Right is simply much less bad. No one is immune from criticism. And, yes, the Left are, indeed, enemies of this country. There’s little doubt of that. If you were to understand the history of the American Left, you’d run from them as if they were cyanide. Put it this way, all the villains of history were, at one time, their bst buds: Mussolini, Hitler, Stalin, the Kims of North Korea, Che Guevara, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, and more. 12-0 million murdered by that bunch! And all at one time or another the darlings of the Amercian Left. Yes, it’s okay to conclude that the American Left are sincere enemies of this country.
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            You said:
            But if that’s your view, so be it. All I ask is that in the future, keep my name out of your blog as I have with yours. Deal?

            My Response:
            Not sure. There’s a bigger picture. Racists and supermacists of all colors are bad people, and dangers to America — the greatest country that’s ever existed. Should someone in 1930’s Germany have made such a deal with Adolf Hitler? Should anyone have said, “Let’s leave him alone, because he doesn’t like it when we attack his ridiculous arguments?” Or should someone have siad, “Let’s stop this moron before he gets any more power and influence?” I think you’ll agree that we should have stopped Hitler before he got rolling. Today’s racist black supremacists are the Hitlers of tomorrow. You should know, you endorsed the grotesque fantasies of one of them — ‘diaryofanegress.’ Let’s face it, there’s no difference whatsoever between he fantasies and those of Hitler. And you endorsed them. Should I remain silent about such abominations, about such grotesqueries, about the fantasies of such lunatics? Really? Wouldn’t you be all over me, if the KKK were to make a resurgence in America, and if I were to remain silent about it? Serious question.

            Dude: Whether you like it or not, you’ve said a lot of KKK-like stuff, and I think it needs to be called out — whenever it rears its ugly head.

            I like you, BW, but… it’s because I don’t think you know what it is that you say and (potentially) do. What you say is roughly the same thing as what the Nazis of early 1930’s Germany said. What you say is akin to what the KKK has said. Serious question: Why should I remain silent about that? More to the point: Shouldn’t I be out and loud in denouncing such grotesqueries? Of course I should.

            Dude: you said that you were a racist. Then you tried to mitigate that by saying you were prejudiced (actually you said you were “prejudice” itself!), as if you thought that somehow mitigated the fact that you think ill of an entire people because of their race. As if you think it’s somehow okay for you to think ill of an entire people because of the color of their skin, as if your personal circumstances make it just fine for you to do the very same thing that you excoriate others for doing.

            So, I’m not sure what “deal” you’re trying to work out, but let’s try this one: If you stop pretending preposterously that (1) America is a racist nation, or that (2) all white Americans are racists, or (3) that black Americans have it any tougher than any other Americans (asian Americans have it much tougher) then I won’t bring it up. However, if you insist on continuing to spew racist, reactionary, neanderthal cr#p, then I see no reason not to point it out. BW: Since you’re kind of like a member of the black KKK, shouldn’t I point that out to people?

            This is America, Dude. You can say whatever you want without consequence, as your blog has long proven. You cannot, however, say any old cr#p and expect others who have a different understanding not to push back. Who on earth taught you that you have the right to say any old cr#p whatsoever about anyone at all, without ever allowing them to respond back? Were you taught your values by a bunch of Nazis?

            One more quick point: You keep our blog out of yours because you know that you can’t win any debates here. By the way, it’s not difficult to win a debate here… simply produce superior arguments. That wins every time. Why don’t you try it sometime?
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            Best,

            — x

          28. Okay. I’m going to put this to rest because frankly, it’s like arguing with a mentally disturbed, sheltered, immature teen with low-level intelligence with a deluded sense of grandeur.

            You constantly bring up the accusation that I’m trying to read your mind. Well, it didn’t occur to me that technically, I was. I just realized that by reading your blog posts and responses, that was basically reading your mind. What you write didn’t come out of nowhere, and computers don’t write themselves. So, they obviously came from you and what you think, and you quoting conservatives and posting their videos means you made a conscious decision to endorse them.

            Through it all, it’s not hard -not that damn hard at all to draw conclusions on what you think, how you see the world and how you feel about it all. It’s only hard to those who object to it outright and hide behind it with declarations that he/she knows better in the face of the obvious and considers him/herself the victor of a needless argument.

            With that said, I read up on an article about how two scientists conducted a study to see how conservatives, and Republicans, respond to news both real and fake. To make a long story short, most conservatives who participated in the experiment believed the misinformation given to them while liberals, on the other hand, refuted it outright.

            But wait, there’s more…

            The research suggests that conservatives have more rigid views than liberals. This often leads to a “backfire effect” where conservatives will argue in support of misinformation handed to them even if facts to the actual truth are presented. In fact, in this case, me arguing that racism is still a major issue in this country makes you believe the opposite more. So, in a way, I’m helping you believe a damaging lie.

            And this is what I see with you and me. And this is why I, with mostly textbook liberal views, cannot win.

            Your mind and my mind are entirely different in most, if not all, things, especially regarding the issues of race. The only way to have a chance is to suggest that black liberals are very patriotic about this country like you are. And that’s a fact for the most part. They love this country as well like you do, and they want to make America great.

            The same goes when it comes to the issue of crime. Black liberals believe that the responsibility lies with them to fix the issue. I’m sure you feel the same way as they’re being personally responsible and have created programs to help fix the problem.

            As far as the police goes, black liberals respect authority like you do. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods as you want us to do, and most of them have been active in bridging the divide between law enforcement and the black community.

            Other than that, there’s nothing I can say that will persuade you from seeing things from my perspective as a black man in America, because you already declared me as a black liberal, or as you called me, a black supremacist. As such, I can’t converse with you on an issue when you hold right wing values, morals and ideas. There can be no bridge to meet halfway if we both hold opposing values, morals and ideas. Research has concluded that, and that’s why I can’t win in an argument with you.

            So yes, you can and will declare this as a victory for the right wing cause, but it’s not because you’re, as you believe, unjustly attacked. Even now, after I say that, you will say how wrong I am and will cling to the idea that conservatives are being unjustly attacked.

            It’s either that, or you’re a pathological contrarian who disagrees with anyone outside your mindset no matter what side it’s on.

            Whatever. If winning arguments are part of your personal value system, okay.

            I’m out.

          29. You said:
            Okay. I’m going to put this to rest because frankly, it’s like arguing with a mentally disturbed, sheltered, immature teen with low-level intelligence with a deluded sense of grandeur.

            My Response:
            Lol! More name-calling, and still no actual points. Let’s pretend that I’m all the bad things you say I am. Now, in the arguments that I’ve made, what have I said that’s wrong, and why? 🙂
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            You said:
            You constantly bring up the accusation that I’m trying to read your mind. Well, it didn’t occur to me that technically, I was. I just realized that by reading your blog posts and responses, that was basically reading your mind. What you write didn’t come out of nowhere, and computers don’t write themselves. So, they obviously came from you and what you think, and you quoting conservatives and posting their videos means you made a conscious decision to endorse them.
            My Response:
            Dude: it’s not an “accusation.” Reading minds is what you try to do, and it is an unmistakable sign that you have no real argument to make. Some call it also: “putting words in someone’s mouth,” and other things. I call it mind-reading. Reading my blog posts is reading my thoughts on various things. You regularly tell me that I want to do things like keep people down, stop black people’s prosperity, keep women down, and things like that. That’s what I mean by “trying to read my mind,” and you’re always wrong to do it. Furthermore, it’s not an argument.

            Yes, I endorse good Conservative thinking. You can call me a Conservative — as you have done — because I am. I’ve made that very clear. You regularly go over the line and try to put thoughts, desires, wishes, feelings into my head that are simply not there. You absolutely can say that I want lower taxes, the end of feminism, the end of abortion, the end of capital punishment, the end of racial discrimination, the re-establishment of free speech in America,the end of the Department of Education, of the EPA, and other federal agencies, because I’ve stated those wishes plainly and out in the open. You can not ever tell me that I secretly harbor desires that some kind of harm come to various peoples or groups of people. You regularly accuse me of that, and you I call you on it. Furthermore, such wishes are nowhere to be found in anything that I’ve ever written.

            However, you absolutely may tell me that I favor things that I’ve plainly said I favor, or that I oppose things that I’ve said I oppose. These things are not difficult to understand.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            Through it all, it’s not hard -not that damn hard at all to draw conclusions on what you think, how you see the world and how you feel about it all. It’s only hard to those who object to it outright and hide behind it with declarations that he/she knows better in the face of the obvious and considers him/herself the victor of a needless argument.
            My Response:
            Apparently it is hard for you to draw conclusions about how I think from what I write, because you never get it right. And don’t try to argue that point with me; I’m the ulitmate authority on the planet, and in all of history on what I think and feel. There are several possibilities: (1) You’re choosing not to understand what I write, (2) you aren’t sufficiently intelligent to understand what I write, (3) I don’t express myself well (4) something else. I think it’s most likely #2, all while Leftist America has been doing its level best to bring about #2, and certainly there has to be at least a little bit of #3 in there. Likely there are other things — #4 — at play as well. And, no, you don’t get to argue with me as to what I think and feel. Sorry. I won’t pretend to tell you what you think or feel except in instances where you divulge that.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            With that said, I read up on an article about how two scientists conducted a study to see how conservatives, and Republicans, respond to news both real and fake. To make a long story short, most conservatives who participated in the experiment believed the misinformation given to them while liberals, on the other hand, refuted it outright.
            My Response:
            Lol! How funny is that?!? Just the other day I read up on an article about how two scientists conducted a study to see how liberals, and Democrats, respond to news both real and fake. To make a long story short, most leftists who participated in the experiment believed the misinformation given to them while Conservatives, on the other hand, refuted it outright. How cool is that?!? Dueling studies in blogs! So stupid. No one should ever do it .
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            But wait, there’s more…
            My Response:
            Okay… [fingers drumming… fingers drumming…]
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            The research suggests that conservatives have more rigid views than liberals. This often leads to a “backfire effect” where conservatives will argue in support of misinformation handed to them even if facts to the actual truth are presented. In fact, in this case, me arguing that racism is still a major issue in this country makes you believe the opposite more. So, in a way, I’m helping you believe a damaging lie.
            My Response:
            How cool is this?!? The vast majority of research suggests that liberals have more rigid views than Conservatives! This often leads to a “backfire effect” where liberals will argue in support of misinformation handed to them even if facts to the actual truth are presented. You found a “study” that indicates the opposite! Surprise! I wonder what credibility that study has. Probably by some flat-earth leftist half-wit. 🙂 Oops! Doing the dueling studies thing again! That really is a dumb thing to do! [googling: “backfire effect”]

            Lolololol! The “backfire effect” is nothing more than a description of a well-known phenomenon called “defensiveness.” The essay I found (here) by one David McRaney pretends that Conservatives are more afflicted by it than leftists, which I found to be just funny.

            The so-called point of McRaney’s take on the “backfire effect” is that we troglodytic right-wingers believe things even more firmly when confronted with contradictory “facts.” Well, Dude, why don’t you ever present any facts then?!? All you do is question my character, and try to psychoanalyze me. Now, mind you, the attention doesn’t bother me, but you still have your part of the deal to play: the presentation of some facts, not just endless whining about how I present myself. 🙂 You csan’t accuse me of being prone to any “backfire effect” if you’ve never presented me with any facts that contradict my own. Sorry.

            You haven’t lost all our arguments because I’m a big, bad, defensive Conservative, you lost all our arguments because all my arguments beat all your arguments, and because when you ran out of facts, I still had plenty left, while all you had left was calling me names and questioning my qualities as a person. That’s why you lost all our arguments.

            Dude: Even if I’m all those bad things you’ve called me, it’s obvious from all our exchanges that I’m also much better informed, much more educated and much more knowledgeable than you. That, my friend, is why you lost all our arguments.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            And this is what I see with you and me. And this is why I, with mostly textbook liberal views, cannot win.

            My Response:
            Nope. It’s the other way ’round. You can’t win because you have textbook liberal views. Those views are, generally, stupid. Stupid views never win arguments against more intelligent views. Simple as that.

            However, your admission that you are a leftist is, finally, a very good thing. This journey that we’re taking together, BW, is bearing fruit for you! These are good things! Your challenge now is not to fall victim to the backfire effect, and get all defensive now that all your conclusions have gone ingloriously down in flames.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            Your mind and my mind are entirely different in most, if not all, things, especially regarding the issues of race. The only way to have a chance is to suggest that black liberals are very patriotic about this country like you are. And that’s a fact for the most part. They love this country as well like you do, and they want to make America great.
            My Response:
            Okay. Our minds are different in all things, because they’re two different minds. That’s okay. I have encountered many, many black leftists who absolutely hate this country, and would love nothing more than to have the government overthrown and replaced with a hard-leftist totalitarian, socialist state. These are not patriots. The definition of “patriotism” is highly flexible depending on whom one encounters. So, “patriotism” is not a valid topic for this discussion. I will say that your friend ‘diaryofanegress’ — who fantasizes about the violent death of all white people — is a black liberal, not a “patriot,” and kind of a monster. That there are many points along a particular spectrum is not surprising or controversial. Furthermore, the definition of “great” can have a great deal of flexibility… what a leftist — of any color — considers “great” I’d call horrible, and vice-versa. Good paragraph, though, BW! Some thoughtful stuff here. It’s not all that meaningful, but it is more thoughtful than your other content, and I appreciate it. It further needs a great deal of elaboration to clear up all the ambiguity behind the terms “patriotism” and “great,” but it’s a good start!
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            The same goes when it comes to the issue of crime. Black liberals believe that the responsibility lies with them to fix the issue. I’m sure you feel the same way as they’re being personally responsible and have created programs to help fix the problem.
            My Response:
            About the issue of crime, I don’t give a teeny, tiny hoot about what black liberals believe. They aren’t fixing the issue! And your and my black brothers and sisters are dying wholesale, in violence and squalor! Violence and squalor that appears to have been caused by… black liberals! It has to stop, and anyone who prevents people from talking about it, or from proposing constructive ideas for solutions, is a monster. You have to face it: black liberals are preventing anyone but other black liberals from talking about it. That’s monstrous. The programs that black liberals have demanded have done nothing whatsoever to “fix the issue,” rather they’ve made things worse in every aspect.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            As far as the police goes, black liberals respect authority like you do. They want the police to protect their neighborhoods as you want us to do, and most of them have been active in bridging the divide between law enforcement and the black community.
            My Response:
            Nope. Black liberals are the ones responsible for making the police back off from the neighborhoods. They’re the ones responsible for the frauds of Ferguson, (“Hands up, don’t shoot!” was a lie. Eric Holder’s own office said that!), of Freddie Gray, of Trayvon Martin, and numerous other fraudulent stories… all of which told the police to back off on policing in black neighborhoods. Black liberals are the direct cause of black deaths. Our coddling of these dirtbags is our shame. And yours, as a black liberal.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            Other than that, there’s nothing I can say that will persuade you from seeing things from my perspective as a black man in America, because you already declared me as a black liberal, or as you called me, a black supremacist. As such, I can’t converse with you on an issue when you hold right wing values, morals and ideas. There can be no bridge to meet halfway if we both hold opposing values, morals and ideas. Research has concluded that, and that’s why I can’t win in an argument with you.
            My Response:
            Ummmmm… okay. I don’t need to see anything from “your perspective as a black man,” I need to see things through your perspective as a person. Your blackness doesn’t make you special in any way; your personhood does. Your personhood makes you unique, precious, valuable, important, significant. Your blackness is nothing important at all. First of all, because you had nothing whatsoever to do with it. Who you are — as a personis all about you, though. And that’s what counts. Your blackness is of no importance.

            BW: You declared yourself a black liberal! You said you have “mostly textbook liberal views.” Well, you’re a black man who holds “mostly textbook liberal views.” To call you a “black liberal” seems about the same as calling Shaquille O’Neal “tall” when he tells you he’s 7’4″. You’ll also recall the time that I listed all your views about the various issues facing America today, and when I told you that you came down on the leftist side of all those issues, you admitted that I was right. You’re a black liberal. Sorry.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            So yes, you can and will declare this as a victory for the right wing cause, but it’s not because you’re, as you believe, unjustly attacked. Even now, after I say that, you will say how wrong I am and will cling to the idea that conservatives are being unjustly attacked.
            My Response:
            Stop with the “declaring victory” thing. I don’t care whether you attack me. I’ll simply respond, and, generally, show you the error of your attacks. About the unjust attacks on Conservatives, since it’s off-topic I won’t comment on it.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            It’s either that, or you’re a pathological contrarian who disagrees with anyone outside your mindset no matter what side it’s on.
            My Response:
            Back to the name-calling. The first sign that you have nothing of substance to say. After all, if you did have something of substance to say, you’d have said it by now.

            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            Whatever. If winning arguments are part of your personal value system, okay.
            My Response:
            Nope. My value system does, though, include a relentless pursuit of the truth. The truth does win arguments. Pursuing the truth tends to help one to win arguments. One flows from the other.
            – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * – * –

            You said:
            I’m out.
            My Response:
            The proper way to express this is: You struck out.
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            Best,

            — x

  1. Great post x. What’s going in S Africa is horrendous. People slaughtering others because of their race is just as abhorrent when it’s blacks doing it to whites as it is whites doing it to blacks. Why this is even questionable speaks to how upside down things are today.

    Just curious, do you remember what kind of responses you got to that editorial form 30 years ago? I bet more than a few feathers wee ruffled.

    1. Thanks for your kind words, Tricia! I strongly agree that what’s going on in South Africa is increasingly awful. Especially after all the happiness at the downfall of apartheid! I agree completely with your comment about things being completely upside down.

      In answer to your question about the response to my editorial: that was one of my first published editorials, so yes, I do remember the reaction. It was about 50-50. I was either a racist, or a reactionary, or I was engaging in common sense, and saying truths that few dared to say.

      Briefly to that point: the newspaper in which that early editorial appeared — the Hartford Courant (<– correct spelling) — actually used to adhere to a policy of allowing both sides of the reaction to an editorial to appear.

      I remember taking much encouragement from the encouraging words, and not being overly bothered by the negative comments. That was my first hint that public commentary might be something for me to do. 🙂

      Best,

      — x

  2. I live in Johannesburg, South Africa and you are an ignorant fool, and based on the diatribe in this silly post, you do not even understand why.
    But then, this is what ignorance and foolishness are, I suppose so maybe it’s not your fault?

    1. Wow! All my ignorance and foolishness aside, that was an over-the-top-around-the-bend-and-out-the-backdoor illiterate post! Some of the finer bad writing I’ve seen lately!

      I have a collection of posts that are just that way, by people who obviously think highly of their own ability to express themselves. The posts, though, make them appear like… well like the writer of your post.

      I feature such riotously half-witted missives (with accompanying analysis and commentary, of course!) on our blog from time to time, to great delight among our readers.

      Would you mind if I used your post? The last sentence — especially after the first one — is priceless!

      Thanks in advance!

      Best,

      — x

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