The Paranoid Delusions of the Left and the RGI (Part MCXXVIV) (Part II)


Update on the post of right here. In that post, we pointed out how Abagond exhorted black Americans to go from demanding free stuff to demanding free stuff even more stridently.


Abagond then remarked  to his herd in the same post yesterday, that we had made some comments on his, let’s face it, imbecilic, paranoid post. I had to chuckle. Here’s the link to Abagond’s assessment of our post, And here’s the text of his brief remark:

xPraetorius wrote a post about my “moronic codswallop” and SnailHail’s “clear-eyed perspective”

Well, he got the “moronic codswallop” part right.

However, I gave the clear-eyed perspective. If you read what wrote (linked at top), you’ll note that I was much more balanced than Abagond indicated.What is the only possible conclusion? Simple: Abagond didn’t read it, but felt competent to comment on it.

Therein you will find two signature characteristics of the Race Grievance Industry: #1: laziness and #2: dishonesty. It appears that Abagond might have read the first part, and maybe the last paragraph, but that’s about it. Or: he just lied about it. Here’s that last paragraph from my post. The red text is my comment, while the black came from the commenter who goes by “SnailHail.”

Yep if anyone has anything to correct or argue with I’m open to it. [I’m thinking thatSnailHail will hear about this. He or she needs to be brought to heel, as his reply to Abagond is very much against the unbreakable orthodoxy of the Race Grievance Industry. The RGI cares about little more than maintaining the myth of white racism, and enforcing ideological purity in the ranks.  As much of a racist as SnailHail is, he or she has a clear-eyed  perspective on the failings within the black community. (emphasis added) Furthermore, as I showed up top, SH’s reply thoroughly debunks Abagond’s entire post. Even more, the post thoroughly debunks Abagond’s entire racist worldview! I’m looking forward to the fireworks.] 

I bolded the part from which Abagond took his assessment. You’ll note that a mere eight words previous to the “clear-eyed perspective” phrase — the only place where “clear-eyed perspective” appears in the post — is my remark that “SnailHail” is a racist, as his post indeed indicates. You’ll note also, that the words, “clear-eyed perspective” apply only to SnailHail’s perspective “on the failings within the black community.”

Obviously, SnailHail’s perspective as it pertains to white people is not at all “clear-eyed,” but rather racist. I further remarked in the very opening paragraph of my entire post, that “SnailHail” supports Abagond’s idiotic post. Obviously, no one possessed of an entirely clear-eyed perspective would do that. Abagond’s post is, after all, moronic codswallop.

Why would I care? Because it’s instructive. The RGI feel the need to lie and distort things, to go through all sorts of twisted contortions and convoluted gymnastics, in order to maintain the myth of white racism.

Since Abagond linked to our post, we can draw some conclusions about certain things.

  • The balanced assessment that I actually gave of Abagond’s post and SnailHail’s reply are out there for all the world to see.
  • Therefore, Abagond assumes that his herd either:
    1. won’t read it, preferring simply to be led by him, or
    2. is too stupid to understand it, or
    3. will somehow believe him, despite the plain evidence to the contrary in front of their faces.
  • Abagond felt it was okay to lie to his herd.
  • Abagond is confident that his herd is okay with being lied to.

None of those inescapable conclusions says anything good about the intellectual capacities of the pawns of the Race Grievance Industry.

The vast web of fabrications, inventions, imagined slights, made-up insults and non-existent affronts that are the stock-in-trade of the RGI, are necessary in order to keep society off-balance, and to keep the flow of free stuff going. Because If it is only the RGI who can see these imagined offenses, then they can’t be disproven. People like BrothaWolf and Abagond are happy to seize on these fictitious abuses to keep up their steady drum beat of accusation and demand


In that very same thread, the commenter who calls himself “gro jo,” another pawn of the RGI, gleefully lied straight to the Abagond herd, no doubt knowing that I couldn’t comment on it directly, because Abagond censors his blog to maintain ideological purity.

Here’s the link to that comment. And, here’s the comment itself:

Abagond, why do you even bother with xP? The poor guy is so stupid, he thought that the $1.2 trillion Black American share of the GDP was welfare and other handouts that you and your ilk managed to extort from the rest of America through blackmail, as agents of the Race Grievance Industry(RGI).

And, of course, an actual reading of the exchange between this guy and me (here) reveals that I don’t think that at all. I did believe it, but then found out that I was in error. Gro jo brings out the one teentsy, weentsy, itty, bitty part in the very long back-and-forth, where he had the better of it. His team got beaten 150-1 in the debate, and he crows about the one point that he got.

And that is signature characteristic #3, of the RGI: self-delusion.

Even more: he presents our long back-and-forth as if his one point were the entire contents of the conversation. It’s important to note that gro jo omits entirely the fact that he never once even addressed my core arguments, by which omission he tacitly admits they’re true.

That brings me to signature characteristic #4 of the RGI: Avoidance. They do all they can to avoid hearing, or even acknowledging the existence of, opposing arguments. They do it through the well-known tactic of banning the source of such unwelcome challenges, or, like gro jo, simply lying about them.

And that brings me to signature characteristic #5 of the Race Grievance Industry: The inability, or unwillingness, to modify their point of view in the slightest, even when confronted by clear evidence that contradicts what they believe. Countervailing evidence causes them to throw infantile tantrums, to dig in their heels, and to ratchet up the stream of invective and insult. That’s when the standard accusations of “Racist!” and “Liar!” and, of course, “Stupid!” come out in torrents.

How to label that characteristic in a few words? “Irrational Stubbornness?” Doesn’t seem to cover it entirely. Certainly irrational, but they’re more stubborn than merely “stubborn.” How about: Irrational dogmatism. These are the flat-earthers of yesteryear.

Those long ago flat-earthers used to make up complex mathematical, theoretical and philosophical models to support their dogmatic belief that the earth was flat. All to avoid having to admit they were wrong, even in the face of overwhelming evidence that contradicted their premise. That, above all, is today’s Race Grievance Industry in a nutshell.

The RGI reminds me constantly of the joke about Teacher/Dad/Mom/Boss/fill in Authority Figure: Rule #1: The [fill in Authority figure here] is always right… Rule #2: If [fill in Authority Figure here] is wrong, see Rule #1.

The more you deal with the RGI, the more you realize that all the invective, the bravado, the sneering contempt and the accusations, are all nothing more than projection.

One thing I found particularly amusing is that “gro jo” called me stupid. If you read our exchange, here, you see that yours truly — apparently the stupid one — trounced “gro jo” rather handily. If we accept gro jo’s premise that I’m stupid, then gro jo was badly beaten by a stupid person. What, I wonder, does that make of him?

And, here’s my last paragraph in my closing remarks concerning gro jo’s apparent surrender in that exchange:

Still, Gro jo was a step or two or three up from the general run-of-the-mill, racist, ignorant blowhards on Abagond’s and BrothaWolf’s blogs.

That’s right, this moron gro jo is one of the less stupid members of Abagond’s herd!

— xPraetorius

20 thoughts on “The Paranoid Delusions of the Left and the RGI (Part MCXXVIV) (Part II)

  1. “And, of course, an actual reading of the exchange between this guy and me (here) reveals that I don’t think that at all. I did believe it, but then found out that I was in error. Gro jo brings out the one teentsy, weentsy, itty, bitty part in the very long back-and-forth, where he had the better of it. His team got beaten 150-1 in the debate, and he crows about the one point that he got.”

    Awfully decent of you Xp to admit that you were in error, but you omit the fact that you discovered your error only after I pointed it out to you several times! I wouldn’t call admitting an error of that magnitude “teentsy, weentsy, itty, bitty” because if Blacks aren’t getting 1.2 trillion dollars of free stuff, what would be the raison d’être of RGI?
    “That’s right, this moron gro jo is one of the less stupid members of Abagond’s herd!”
    Wow, I’m humbled, coming from you, that’s high praise indeed!
    SARCASM ALERT.

  2. Lol! Welcome back, GJ! As I’ve mentioned several times before, the raison d’être of the Race Grievance Industry is simple, and has four parts. They want (1) revenge, (2) free stuff, (3) emotional and intellectual validation, and (4) excuses for failure.

    Those are the driving factors that moved the formation of the RGI, and that keep its pawns — like Abagond’s herd — going, following the resounding success of the Civil Rights movement

    Apologies for the “moron” remark. A fit of pique to which I have to admit I can occasionally fall prey.

    You did get walloped 150 to one, and the $1.2 trillion figure was, indeed, my error. However, the figure was simply the wrong number. There is a right number, and it doesn’t show the RGI in a good light at all.

    So, while the $1.2 trillion number was my mistake, the argument I advanced — that the flow of money to black Americans is a factor supporting my contention that white racism in America simply is not a big problem for black people — was correct.

    Furthermore, the $1.2 trillion figure represents what the source I quoted says is black economic activity in America today. That level of economic activity simply would not be possible in a country awash in anti-black racism. The $1.2 trillion figure turns out to be an even stronger argument for my case, when properly interpreted.

    One more quick thing: I admitted my error long, long ago, and as soon as I realized it. What’s your point?

    And, of course, Merry Christmas to you and yours! May the new year bring you only happiness, prosperity, good health, love and laughter!

    Best,

    — x

  3. Xp, happy holidays to you and yours. Your moron claim is water off a duck’s back as far as I’m concerned. So, since I’ve weaned you off of your $1.2 trillion delusion, have you done the hard work to determine the exact amount RGI is extorting from “hard working, decent, mostly white Americans”?
    Last time we interacted, I dropped a ton of data showing that welfare recipients get the same amount of free stuff although blacks tend to be poorer than whites. You breezily dismissed the data by claiming you could produce a ton of the stuff from your side of the political spectrum. Anyway, prof. Durr, one of the experts quoted was RGI, therefore suspect.
    You’ve had half a year to get your ducks lined up. Show me what you’ve got.
    You like to claim that racism is a thing of the past, I showed you that the cops were accessories in the murder of one of Dahmer’s victims, if racism was truly a thing of the past, why weren’t these cops indicted or at the very least, fired for incompetence?
    More recently, Chicago’s authorities conspired to hide the video showing the gunning down of this black guy. Please give me your explanation for these events.
    Spare me your nonsense about Blacks being free to protest, the Black Lives Matter protesters and the White reaction to them shows that argument to be untrue.
    As for your claim that Blacks are not leaving and even some from overseas are coming here, well what does it prove really? Only that the USA is the center of world commerce and modern civilization, nothing else.
    Your claim that Blacks have only taken and not given anything in return is nonsense. Chicago was founded by a black explorer named Jean Baptiste Point du Sable. You can find other black pioneers in every other field of human activity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC50BZrOYpo. Some of them are creating businesses that your son may end up working for! http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/07/software-eats-software/
    Take care Xp.

    1. And a Merry, Merry (belated) Christmas to you and yours, GroJo! And a Happy New Year! May you have many, many more, and may each be happier, healthier, more prosperous, and filled with love, life, laughter and joy, than the previous!

      You said:

      You’ve had half a year to get your ducks lined up. Show me what you’ve got.

      My Reaction:
      They were lined up long ago, they waddled to their little duck line stood there, made the necessary motions and genuflections, and I dismissed them to go back to their little duck families, and their little duck lives. I’m not calling them back into action here, on the day after they just had their little duck Christmases around their little duck Christmas trees. 🙂

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      You said:

      You like to claim that racism is a thing of the past, I showed you that the cops were accessories in the murder of one of Dahmer’s victims, if racism was truly a thing of the past, why weren’t these cops indicted or at the very least, fired for incompetence?

      My Reaction:
      I addressed these things already, but I’ll do it again. First: I never have said that racism is a thing of the past. It is not. I have maintained, and it has been my central premise all along: white racism (as it’s thought of by the RGI) is no longer a big problem in America today. I have never, ever, not once, not ever said that “racism is a thing of the past.” For example: black racism is quite extensive and a significant pathology in Black America. White racism in the form of stultifying low expectations on the part of American leftists can be a significant problem in America today, if black Americans allow it to be. But the phenomenon of white people hating, or thinking less of, black people due to the color of their skin has all but disappeared in America today. Certainly it was resoundingly defeated in the court of American public opinion, and represents no obstacle at all to the social, political and economic advancement of black Americans today. Needless to say, this last form of racism, the one that actually has all but disappeared today is the only one about which the RGI whines at all, whereas the first two — black racism and white liberal racism — are completely ignored.

      White racism in America — as it’s thought of by the RGI — is a bit like surly neighbors. They’re rare, they occasionally represent a minor problem when they won’t lend you their rake, but it’s not worth wasting a whole lot of energy of any kind on them.

      About the cops in the Dahmer case: I agree that they were at least indirectly responsible for the murder of one of Jeffrey Dahmer’s victims. I agree that they should have been fired for incompetence at the very least. This was another example where political correctness killed. The incident had nothing to do with the asian ethnicity of Dahmer’s victim, but rather the two cops’ reluctance to step into what they perceived as a homosexual relationship experiencing “difficulties.” It was a rather stark indictment of political correctness.

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      You said:

      More recently, Chicago’s authorities conspired to hide the video showing the gunning down of this black guy. Please give me your explanation for these events.

      My Reaction:
      Explanation of the cover-up of the police shooting of Laquan McDonald? Easy: the corruption of Rahm Emmanuel. Remember: no one would have cared in the slightest if young McDonald had been white and just as dead. Racism, anyone? Or if the cop had been black.

      Go ahead and do some research, GroJo… cop shootings do not support your point of view.

      Rather than let you fall into that little trap, let me ask you: when was the last time you heard of the shooting of a white person by cops? It happens you know. More frequently than shootings of black people. Yet go ahead and name the last time you heard anyone make a big thing of it. Never? Good answer! When was the last time you heard of a black cop shooting a white person? It happens you know. More frequently than white cops shooting black people. Never heard of any? Me either. When was the last time you heard of any cop shooting an Asian person? A hispanic person? A Christian? A straight or gay person? Nope. Me neither. The only shootings that interest the media are when a white cop shoots a black person — preferably an unarmed black person. However, absent an understanding of the demographics of all those other “police-involved” shootings, the number of white-on-black cop shootings tells us absolutely nothing. Certainly, the single shooting of a black kid in on city in America tells us nothing at all.

      I understand where you’re coming from, GJ. You have fallen into the same trap that so many in the RGI fall into: thinking that you’re arguing against people trying to make the point that there is no more white racism in America today. No one’s making that argument. When I was allowed to post at Abagond’s place or at Brotha Wolf’s place, I had to knock that silliness back dozens of times I said: “white racism exists, it’s just not a big problem in America today” dozens and dozens of times, to people who couldn’t get it through their this skulls that they were arguing against a point that I was not trying to make.

      They, and apparently you, never did get it, and to this day are still arguing against a point that no one is trying to make. And, in arguing against that nonexistent point, a single instance of what sure looks like a racially-motivated killing in Chicago is, indeed, relevant. However, that shooting is not relevant against my premise. Why? Because: I’m not trying to say that white racism doesn’t exist. I made the point that white racism exists, but is not a big problem in America today.

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      You said:

      Spare me your nonsense about Blacks being free to protest, the Black Lives Matter protesters and the White reaction to them shows that argument to be untrue.

      My Reaction:
      How so? There has been no lack of “Black Lives Matter” protests around the country, with fulsome coverage by the media. Black Americans are completely free to protest in America, and they know it. Furthermore, they receive much wider latitude to protest — even to disrupt the lives and businesses of other Americans — than any other group would receive. Try to imagine, for example, if the KKK had decided to protest in the Mall of America over the Christmas holiday. What do you think would have happened to the Mall of America’s suit to prevent the KKK protest? Of course the Mall would have won.

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      You said:

      As for your claim that Blacks are not leaving and even some from overseas are coming here, well what does it prove really? Only that the USA is the center of world commerce and modern civilization, nothing else.

      My Reaction:
      Thank you. This supports my point quite nicely, and I thank you. If America were the racist (against black people) center of world commerce and modern civilization, then black Americans still never would be able to get to the $1.2 trillion figure for economic activity. Again, the $1.2 trillion figure comes forward to buttress my point, the point that you have neatly made for me: the USA is the plainly non-racist center of world commerce and modern civilization.

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      You said:

      Your claim that Blacks have only taken and not given anything in return is nonsense. Chicago was founded by a black explorer named Jean Baptiste Point du Sable. You can find other black pioneers in every other field of human activity.

      My Reaction:
      And that was never my point. I never tried to make that claim and never would, as I don’t believe it. Black American history is full of wonderfully positive and important cultural, social, economic, intellectual and political contributions. Your assertion that I can “find other black pioneers in every other field of human activity” buttresses my point: even back in the bad old days, there were vast and numerous non- racist places and disciplines and people. People who didn’t try to stand in the way of black achievement. There are great black Americans named Frederick Douglass, Booker T. Washington, George Washington Carver and more, because, at the critical junctures of their lives, there were not petty, racist Americans standing in their way, despite the prevailing mood of their day. These people are proof that the typically understood white racism, as a state-of-mind, was well on its way to its final defeat (not: total eradication) in which status it remains today, and where it has been for more than three generations.

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      You said:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC50BZrOYpo. Some of them are creating businesses that your son may end up working for! http://techcrunch.com/2015/12/07/software-eats-software/

      My Reaction:
      Not sure I understand your point here. That black Americans and others are engaging in entrepreneurship and succeeding? That’s the very point I’ve been trying to make for some time. The point that if black Americans work hard, then there is nothing, certainly not white racism, standing in the way of their success in America. I agree.

      GJ, I like arguing with you, because you relentlessly try to make my points for me. I have been saying for a very long time that black Americans are great Americans, as are all Americans who work hard and do their best to make life better for themselves and their families. That a major impediment to their success is the poisonous message of the RGI, who insist that the deck is so heavily stacked against black people, that it’s impossible for them to succeed.

      I say that is a bunch of hogwash! Black Americans are every bit as intelligent, creative, innovative, imaginative, hard-working, diligent, responsible … magnificent as any other people. They just have to tell the RGI to go take a hike, get out of their way, and let them achieve great things in America today. You have to understand, GJ: the RGI is telling black Americans: “You can’t (because whitey is standing in your way).” You’ve been trying to make the point: “We can!”

      I agree with your point 1,000 percent.

      Now, though, you SHOULD … and stop whining about how racist America is, because it just isn’t.

      Best,

      — x

  4. TYPO ALERT: “…therefor suspect ” should be “…therefore suspect”
    “…well what those it prove really?” should be “…well what does it prove really?”

    [Editor’s Note: Typos in the referenced post cleaned up.]

  5. Bill collectors after you again? You should join the RGI firm and make a million a year helping Blacks get their RGI generated free stuff.

  6. Lol! Much worse than bill collectors… and much more dangerous.

    Can’t join the RGI firm. I’m the wrong color, the market’s saturated, and everyone knows it’s okay to discriminate against white people in employment. 🙂

    Merry Christmas to you and yours! More to come later.

    Best,

    — x

    1. A Merry, Merry (belated) Christmas to you and yours, Xp! And a Happy New Year! May you have many, many more, and may each be happier, healthier, more prosperous, and filled with love, life, laughter and joy, than the previous!
      Now that we’re done with the pleasantries let’s see what you’ve got.
      Your Reactions:
      “They were lined up long ago, they waddled to their little duck line stood there, made the necessary motions and genuflections, and I dismissed them to go back to their little duck families, and their little duck lives. I’m not calling them back into action here, on the day after they just had their little duck Christmases around their little duck Christmas trees.”
      Cute, silly and unresponsive. In other words, you’ve got nothing. Can’t say I’m surprised. 🙂

      “I have maintained, and it has been my central premise all along: white racism (as it’s thought of by the RGI) is no longer a big problem in America today. I have never, ever, not once, not ever said that “racism is a thing of the past.” For example: black racism is quite extensive and a significant pathology in Black America. White racism in the form of stultifying low expectations on the part of American leftists can be a significant problem in America today, if black Americans allow it to be. But the phenomenon of white people hating, or thinking less of, black people due to the color of their skin has all but disappeared in America today.”
      Your evidence for such claim is?
      “About the cops in the Dahmer case: I agree that they were at least indirectly responsible for the murder of one of Jeffrey Dahmer’s victims. I agree that they should have been fired for incompetence at the very least. This was another example where political correctness killed. The incident had nothing to do with the asian ethnicity of Dahmer’s victim, but rather the two cops’ reluctance to step into what they perceived as a homosexual relationship experiencing “difficulties.” It was a rather stark indictment of political correctness.”

      So now you too can read minds, as you’ve accused me of doing on prior occasions? You “know” for a fact that the cops were respecting Dahmer’s domesticity instead of showing the usual disrespect white guys with badges tend to show nonwhites?
      Let’s see what other drolleries you’ve come up with.

      “Explanation of the cover-up of the police shooting of Laquan McDonald? Easy: the corruption of Rahm Emmanuel. Remember: no one would have cared in the slightest if young McDonald had been white and just as dead. Racism, anyone? Or if the cop had been black.

      Go ahead and do some research, GroJo… cop shootings do not support your point of view.

      Rather than let you fall into that little trap, let me ask you: when was the last time you heard of the shooting of a white person by cops?…The only shootings that interest the media are when a white cop shoots a black person — preferably an unarmed black person. However, absent an understanding of the demographics of all those other “police-involved” shootings, the number of white-on-black cop shootings tells us absolutely nothing. Certainly, the single shooting of a black kid in on city in America tells us nothing at all.”
      Xp, your pal Abagond posted the following: https://abagond.wordpress.com/2014/09/04/dillon-taylor/, https://abagond.wordpress.com/2015/11/18/jeremy-mardis/ and I found this on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7grD5VYFlp0
      NOTICE NONE OF THE RUBBISH ABOUT THE FATHER’S CRIMINAL PAST AND THE SWIFTNESS OF THE ARREST. TAMIR RICE DIDN’T GET THE SAME CONSIDERATION. Xp, why do you lie so brazenly?

      “When I was allowed to post at Abagond’s place or at Brotha Wolf’s place, I had to knock that silliness back dozens of times I said: “white racism exists, it’s just not a big problem in America today” dozens and dozens of times, to people who couldn’t get it through their this skulls that they were arguing against a point that I was not trying to make.”
      White racism isn’t a big problem in America today for you, I suspect that it wouldn’t have been a problem for you since the founding of the USA!

      You believed that Blacks were getting $1.2 trillion of “free stuff” from various sources thanks to RGI, under the lash of my criticism, you modified that amount to something less but still substantial that you won’t divulge. What accounted for your hostile reaction to my attempt to set you right on the exact figure? Why did you find my reasonable attempts to make you see your error “obnoxious”? What was behind your pique that made you label me a “moron”? Why were you oblivious to the complicity of the cops in the Dahmer case? I have my opinions, of course, but I’d like to hear from you what it was that caused you to resist the truth.

      Reading your diatribes, I get the impression that Blacks just sit around and wait for the RGI man to glide down their chimneys with all that “free stuff”.
      Mr. James Robertson of Detroit could’ve used a working car instead of walking 21 miles everyday for a decade to get to and from work! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2a7yn1kTy4E. He isn’t the only hardworking black man in America. Happily, Robert F. Smith, just as black and hardworking has been much more richly rewarded for his efforts. http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2015/09/this-billionaire-is-the-second-richest-black-person-in-america-but-youve-probably-never-heard-of-him/.
      I think we might agree that the situation isn’t as dire as it used to be for Blacks but I reject your attempt to try to argue that poverty is due to some sort of moral deficiency.

      I find it amusing that you keep claiming that I buttress your arguments when I point out that black people have achieved success in the USA. Your reply is to say that Blacks aren’t trying to leave, and in fact, they are coming from all over the world. The same held true before the Civil Rights victories you credit for defanging white racism. A number of blacks were successful even before slavery was abolished. Black slaves were inventors, their masters tried to patent their inventions but were prevented from doing so by the patent office on the not unreasonable premise that said masters couldn’t claim the work of someone else as theirs. In order to combat the ignorance you want to propagate I’ve added a few links that might be of use to the less close minded among your readers.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Cuffee
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salem_Poor
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Whipple
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crispus_Attucks
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Salem
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Armistead_Lafayette
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Ernst_Matzeliger
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_McKinley_Jones

      Take care,
      Gro Jo

  7. Again, GJ, you come at me with anecdotes. Anecdotes can provide additional perspectives, but they say nothing about the general condition of anything.

    You get so much so wrong in what you wrote above, that it will take longer than a brief shot at it here to to answer adequately, but here are a couple:

    1) About the cops in the Dahmer case. I’m only telling you what was reported. It was reported that the cops were afraid to get between two gay guys. You are the one trying to read minds and say that, no, the cops were really just not interested in helping out a non-white guy. There is simply no indication of that, and there were no reports that there was a racial angle to it. There were reports that there was a gay angle to it.

    2) You accuse me of lying. Simple truth: no one can ever tell whether someone else is lying. Lying is an intentional attempt to deceive with something that the liar knows to be untrue. You have only indications of good faith on my part, including when I recognized that I had made a mistake, admitted it, and apologized for it. Cut out the accusations of “lying.” They show you in a very bad light.

    3) You say that “Civil Rights victories defanged white racism.” Wrong: Civil rights victories happened because white racism had already been defanged. Talk about a “struggle” all you want, but the real story of the Civil Rights movement is that black Americans said, “You white guys have to cut it out!” and white guys replied, “You know? You’re right. Okay. We’ll cut it out.” And they did. There was remarkably little violence, remarkably little “struggle,” just a bunch of black people calling a bunch of white people on their behavior, and then those white people simply cut it out. White racism — as it is perceived by the RGI today – was defeated, defanged, defenestrated before there even was a Civil Rights movement. It was a dead tree that people like Martin Luther King, Jr. walked up and simply pushed over.

    4) I don’t play dueling sources, dueling YouTube videos, dueling links, for the simple reason that for any argument about anything, anyone can find any number of things like that just about anywhere. To have to go out and check the credibility of them all — either for you or me — is time-consuming and arduous. Besides, I’ve done it before, only to have some idiot reply back with something stupid like: “Well, he supports your point-of-view, so he must be lying,” or some such nitwittery. There was no point in my proposing sources that someone else was not going to respond to seriously, then have to listen as he accused me of not taking his source seriously. I simply decided not to play the dueling sources game. For the moment, I’ll let you keep your anecdotal links up there, but don’t post any more links or videos, because I’ll just edit them out of your post.

    I prefer original thinking. In answer to your question about “my proof,” of my basic premise that white racism is not a big problem in America today, well your $1.2 trillion figure is strong evidence on my side. Also, my famous “five points.” Also, if you go back to the Abagond post where he banished me (actually, I banished myself, but that’s another story.) you’ll see that I advanced numerous pieces of evidence that none of the Abagondians ever touched. Look up “Notes on xPraetorius” on his site. I don’t feel the need to repeat all that evidence here, when you can just as well look it up there. Or, I reproduced the contents of his post over here, if you wish to view it here.

    One more thing about your links to Abagond’s site. Please remember: he’s a racist, and has no credibility. He censors his site, and banishes those whose views he doesn’t like. He maintains ideological purity at his site and simply gets rid of anyone who challenges him seriously. That speaks very poorly of his credibility, his intelligence, his seriousness as a commentator or analyst.

    I’ll write more later… more work to do.

    Best,

    — x

  8. Again, Xp, you come at me with anecdotes. Anecdotes can provide additional perspectives, but they say nothing about the general condition of anything.
    “Talk about a “struggle” all you want, but the real story of the Civil Rights movement is that black Americans said, “You white guys have to cut it out!” and white guys replied, “You know? You’re right. Okay. We’ll cut it out.” And they did. There was remarkably little violence, remarkably little “struggle,” just a bunch of black people calling a bunch of white people on their behavior, and then those white people simply cut it out. White racism — as it is perceived by the RGI today – was defeated, defanged, defenestrated before there even was a Civil Rights movement. It was a dead tree that people like Martin Luther King, Jr. walked up and simply pushed over.”
    Zero evidence to back that absurd claim. Remind me again what King and a number of other Civil Rights leaders died of?

    “About the cops in the Dahmer case. I’m only telling you what was reported. It was reported that the cops were afraid to get between two gay guys. You are the one trying to read minds and say that, no, the cops were really just not interested in helping out a non-white guy. There is simply no indication of that, and there were no reports that there was a racial angle to it. There were reports that there was a gay angle to it.”
    NONSENSE.

    “I don’t play dueling sources, dueling YouTube videos, dueling links, for the simple reason that for any argument about anything, anyone can find any number of things like that just about anywhere. To have to go out and check the credibility of them all — either for you or me — is time-consuming and arduous. Besides, I’ve done it before, only to have some idiot reply back with something stupid like: “Well, he supports your point-of-view, so he must be lying,” or some such nitwittery. There was no point in my proposing sources that someone else was not going to respond to seriously, then have to listen as he accused me of not taking his source seriously. I simply decided not to play the dueling sources game. For the moment, I’ll let you keep your anecdotal links up there, but don’t post any more links or videos, because I’ll just edit them out of your post.”
    To condense all this verbiage in as few words as possible, you are allergic to facts! Best to keep the conversation in the realm of abstractions that have nothing to do with reality. You can edit my posts anyway you want. I’ll add any links I deem necessary, so don’t waste your time telling me what to do, got that?
    I showed you up for the ignorant blowhard you are when you claimed that Blacks don’t work hard and that the media didn’t cover white victims of police violence. I don’t know or care what you intended, but when you made your absurd claims you deserved to be called a liar. In future, make sure you know what you’re talking about before writing nonsense, only then will I refrain from calling you a liar.
    Take Care Xp,
    your nemesis, Gro Jo.

  9. Lol! Seriously, GJ? Seriously? I’ll have some fun with this one in a bit, but let’s say that among your usually weak responses, this is one of the weakest and most just plain stupid.

    Just a small sampler for the moment:

    Thing 1: You say I’m “allergic to facts,” yet you pull your so-called “facts” from YouTube videos and racist bloggers? Now, those’re some serious sources!

    Are you that dumb? Are you that naïve that you think that everything posted on YouTube or on the internet is a “fact?”

    Thing 2: Your response to one of my points was, and I quote: “NONSENSE.”

    Wellllll…that sure salts it! It must be nonsense then! Nothing more to say! Wow! Faced with that kind of sparkling logic, what else could anyone else say?!?! Whew!

    Thing 3: You said, “Remind me again what King and a number of other Civil Rights leaders died of?

    You’ll note that I said “remarkably little violence,” not “no violence.” Duh! Obviously, any violence is too much violence, but as far as the Civil Right movement is concerned, there were several dozen deaths attributable to the unrest. Several dozen deaths to overthrow an entire world view in a country of (at the time) more than 150 million people? To say “remarkably little violence” is perfectly accurate.

    Often in history, to make sweeping changes like that, there are massive, bloody upheavals, and armies clashing with armies and tens or hundreds of thousands dead. In America, though: some famous marches, a few killed (yes, yes, yes, a few is still a few too many) and it was over. It was over so quickly and so bloodlessly because whites were ready, willing and able to see and admit to the error of their ways. They did that more than three generations ago, and have been trying to atone for it ever since.

    Thing 4: I suggested you stop calling me a liar for your benefit (it’s starting to come back to me, why I called you a moron. 🙂 ) not mine. You look like an idiot when you pretend you can know someone else’s intent. By all means, though, if you wish to continue to call me a liar, have at it. You might fall afoul of the rules of COMIRSUS though. We gently warn the offenders before enforcing the rules, so this is your warning. Note: you will not be banned (I never ban anyone) or censored in any way, but we do enforce the rules of COMIRSUS. (Definition here.)

    Thing 5: I, of course, never said, or even hinted, that black Americans don’t work hard.

    Thing 6: You made a real funny here when you called yourself “my nemesis.” GJ, you are not even close to my nemesis. You’ll have no hope of even dreaming of becoming my “nemesis” until you can (1) start putting forward some intelligent arguments, and (2) argue the actual points, and not a bunch of points you think are being made. Until then, you’re just a bit of a pest. Nothing more. Sorry.

    Best,

    — x

  10. I like you Xp, I haven’t laughed this hard since I went a couple of rounds with Kiwi and Sharinalr on Abagond’s blog. Like these worthies, you imagine that your opinions are facts.
    Let’s take a look at your objections.
    “Thing 1: You say I’m “allergic to facts,” yet you pull your so-called “facts” from YouTube videos and racist bloggers? Now, those’re some serious sources!

    Are you that dumb? Are you that naïve that you think that everything posted on YouTube or on the internet is a “fact?” ”
    Ok, Daffy Duck, prove that the assassins of Jeremy Mardis weren’t arrested the day after they committed their crimes. Prove that everything was done to prosecute the assassins of Tamir Rice instead of giving them a pass. When you have done the above, I’ll give you a fulsome apology, until then your comments quoted below are LIES.
    “…Remember: no one would have cared in the slightest if young McDonald had been white and just as dead. Racism, anyone? Or if the cop had been black.

    Go ahead and do some research, GroJo… cop shootings do not support your point of view.

    Rather than let you fall into that little trap, let me ask you: when was the last time you heard of the shooting of a white person by cops?…The only shootings that interest the media are when a white cop shoots a black person — preferably an unarmed black person.”
    I don’t need to know if you wrote this tripe because you are stupid, misinformed or joking. I proved that this statement is at variance with the known facts of this world, and therefore a lie.
    Rant all you want against Abagond and Youtube, facts are facts. Say, what’s with this thing stuff, have you been dipping into the works of Dr. Seuss as inspiration for your phantasmagorical nonsense?
    “Thing 2: Your response to one of my points was, and I quote: “NONSENSE.” ”
    Too terse for you eh? They do say brevity is the soul of wit. Ok, since you’re witless, I’ve got to break it down for you, here goes. According to you the cops were being considerate of Dahmer’s domestic arrangements instead of being racist a**holes. The only problem with that moronic 🙂 claim is the fact that their job includes investigating domestic violence regardless of the sexual orientation of the people involved. There was lots of evidence of domestic violence at the scene. How did that fact escape your “gigantic” intellect?
    “You’ll note that I said “remarkably little violence,” not “no violence.” Duh! Obviously, any violence is too much violence, but as far as the Civil Right movement is concerned, there were several dozen deaths attributable to the unrest. Several dozen deaths to overthrow an entire world view in a country of (at the time) more than 150 million people? To say “remarkably little violence” is perfectly accurate.

    Often in history, to make sweeping changes like that, there are massive, bloody upheavals, and armies clashing with armies and tens or hundreds of thousands dead. In America, though: some famous marches, a few killed (yes, yes, yes, a few is still a few too many) and it was over. It was over so quickly and so bloodlessly because whites were ready, willing and able to see and admit to the error of their ways. They did that more than three generations ago, and have been trying to atone for it ever since. ”
    The only reason it was relatively peaceful as you say is because the South remembers the Civil War and Sherman’s march to the sea. This is your first lucid comment so far. I’ve been and will continue to be tough on you, but you got this one partially right.There existed an alliance between the federal government and the Civil Right movement. The last two sentences of that quote show you reverting to type and are nonsense. Google Citizen Councils and private Academies to see what I’m talking about. Racists didn’t give up, they organized and rebranded.

    Your rules are of no interest to me. I will say what I want and the way I want, and you can do with my comments as you please, since this is your joint. Thank you for correcting my typos.

    “I, of course, never said, or even hinted, that black Americans don’t work hard.”
    Xp, if you had Pinocchio’s affliction your nose would be as long as the oldest California redwood tree.
    ” As I’ve mentioned several times before, the raison d’être of the Race Grievance Industry is simple, and has four parts. They want (1) revenge, (2) free stuff, (3) emotional and intellectual validation, and (4) excuses for failure. ”
    “Can’t join the RGI firm. I’m the wrong color, the market’s saturated, and everyone knows it’s okay to discriminate against white people in employment. :)”
    These claims were made by you and strongly hint that Blacks are lazy, vain, vengeful and failures. Spare me your nonsense.

    “You made a real funny here when you called yourself “my nemesis.” GJ, you are not even close to my nemesis. You’ll have no hope of even dreaming of becoming my “nemesis” until you can (1) start putting forward some intelligent arguments, and (2) argue the actual points, and not a bunch of points you think are being made. Until then, you’re just a bit of a pest. Nothing more. Sorry.”
    Was it not a “pest” that started the plague in medieval Europe? Call me Yersinia pestis bacterium, Xenopsylla cheopis or the black rat if you wish.

    1. Let’s try to help you out a bit, GJ.

      You said:

      Too terse for you eh? They do say brevity is the soul of wit.

      My Response
      Not sure if the old saw is true, but let’s pretend it is. However, to say nothing represents “brevity” as well. Your response — “Nonsense” — said nothing. That’s not the soul of wit, but rather that of a half-wit.


      You said:

      Ok, Daffy Duck, prove that the assassins of Jeremy Mardis weren’t arrested the day after they committed their crimes. Prove that everything was done to prosecute the assassins of Tamir Rice instead of giving them a pass. When you have done the above, I’ll give you a fulsome apology, until then your comments quoted below are LIES.

      My Response
      Okay, Ditzy Doofus 🙂 , I don’t have to. Let’s see if you can get this through your silly little head. THEY’RE ANECDOTES. They don’t prove anything about anything! Sheesh! What is your head made of, granite? There is nothing to be gleaned from dissecting ANECDOTES. I gave you FACTS in the post previous to this one.


      You said:

      I don’t need to know if you wrote this tripe because you are stupid, misinformed or joking. I proved that this statement is at variance with the known facts of this world, and therefore a lie.

      My Response
      And I just gave you (in the post previous to this one) a bunch of FACTS that indicate that everything I said was true. You really don’t know the definition of a lie, do you? A lie is an INTENTIONAL untruth. If I believe what I’m saying, then I’m — by definition — not lying! Sheesh again! I feel as though I’m dealing with a 3-year old!


      You said:

      Rant all you want against Abagond and Youtube, facts are facts.

      My Response
      Yes, and you might find some needles buried in those haystacks, but I don’t have time to check the credibility of those things. And I know Abagond’s not credible. So, up your game, GJ — you’re apparently out of your league here.


      You said:

      I’ve got to break it down for you, here goes. According to you the cops were being considerate of Dahmer’s domestic arrangements instead of being racist a**holes. The only problem with that moronic 🙂 claim is the fact that their job includes investigating domestic violence regardless of the sexual orientation of the people involved. There was lots of evidence of domestic violence at the scene. How did that fact escape your “gigantic” intellect?

      My Response
      Where did I say that the cops are not supposed to check on incidents of domestic violence regardless of the preferences of the people in question? Oh, that’s right …nowhere. I also said that I’d support a conclusion that the cops should have been fired for incompetence. However, there was no indication of a racial angle anywhere in the incident. If you can find one, please feel free to point it out in the credible media reports of the day. However, I remember it well, and people were outraged because the cops were afraid to get in the middle of a GAY DISPUTE which is what they and the media all reported. Again, noone so much as hinted that there was a racial angle to the incident. And, even if there were, it would be another — you guessed it: ANECDOTE! Stipulate to EVERYTHING you say about the incident, and it STILL says precisely NOTHING about race relations in the United States. Duh!

      In my reply previous to this one, I gave you REAL facts, that say REAL things about the police and race relations in America. Read it. Get on the topic. Get your head out of your rump.


      You said:

      The only reason it was relatively peaceful as you say is because the South remembers the Civil War and Sherman’s march to the sea. This is your first lucid comment so far.

      My Response
      Lol! And you call this a “fact?” Go ahead and back that up with anything, I dare you. It’s nothing more than wild, out-of-the-blue conjecture. You literally said that “The South remembered Sherman’s march to the sea so white people just gave black people all they wanted in the Civil Rights Movement.” Sherman’s March happened about a century before that. There wasn’t a person alive who (1) remembered it, or (2) feared another one, or (3) even considered it in their thinking on Civil Rights. The reason the Civil Rights Movement was so successful with so little bloodshed was because white people just weren’t all that racist. Period. Duh!

      Sherman’s March! Sheesh! What nutball, wackjob jackassery are you going to throw out there next, GJ?


      You said:

      I’ve been and will continue to be tough on you…

      My Response
      Lol! The kitten roars!


      You said:

      Racists didn’t give up, they organized and rebranded.

      My Response
      Correct. However, there were few enough of them that they ceased to be a big problem in America at all. And their numbers are continuing to diminish as they have been for many decades. Centuries even.

      There is a racism problem in America. Just not the one the RGI imagines. They have to continue to flog the long dead horse of white animosity toward black people, so no one will notice that their ranks, the ranks of the RGI, are overrun with virulent racists. Moronic bigots who hate white people for nothing more than the color of their skin.


      You said:

      Google Citizen Councils and private Academies to see what I’m talking about.

      My Response
      How fitting and appropriate that your phrase above appeared in a post called: “The Paranoid Delusions of the Left and the RGI.”

      I did find this in wikipedia about your Citizens’ Councils: “School desegregation and the demise of the councils.” And this: “By the 1970s, following passage of federal civil rights legislation in the mid-1960s and enforcement of constitutional rights by the federal government, the influence of the Councils had waned considerably.”
      Another way to say that would be: “The Citizens’ Councils were no longer a big problem in America.” Gee… where have I heard that before?!?

      Maybe you should google “Black Panthers” and “Nation of Islam” to name just a couple of racist scum organizations… 🙂


      You said:

      Your rules are of no interest to me. I will say what I want and the way I want, and you can do with my comments as you please, since this is your joint. Thank you for correcting my typos.

      My Response
      So, when you go to someone else’s place you act like a complete jerk? This puts you in a very bad light indeed! Follow the rules.


      You said:

      “I, of course, never said, or even hinted, that black Americans don’t work hard.”

      Xp, if you had Pinocchio’s affliction your nose would be as long as the oldest California redwood tree.

      [quoting me] ” As I’ve mentioned several times before, the raison d’être of the Race Grievance Industry is simple, and has four parts. They want (1) revenge, (2) free stuff, (3) emotional and intellectual validation, and (4) excuses for failure. ”

      [quoting me again] “Can’t join the RGI firm. I’m the wrong color, the market’s saturated, and everyone knows it’s okay to discriminate against white people in employment. :)”

      My Response
      You’ll note that I said all that about the RGI. Nowhere in there did I even hint that black people, or even the RGI, are not hard workers.

      The RGI are lazy thinkers, but not lazy workers. The RGI are, absolutely, vain, vengeful and failures as people, as all racists are.

      Now, point out to me where I ever said, or even hinted, that black people are not hard workers. Ever. Since I would be the source, I have no qualms with your finding it and pointing it out. If you don’t find it, though, then you’re, obviously, just pulling it out of your fat gluteus maximus.


      You said:

      Was it not a “pest” that started the plague in medieval Europe? Call me Yersinia pestis bacterium, Xenopsylla cheopis or the black rat if you wish.

      My Response:
      Do you really want me to call you a bacterium, GJ? Or a rodent? Sorry, I’m afraid I’ll have to decline. It violates my rule against gratuitous insults. Besides, you’re not all that you think you are. You still haven’t done anything but present irrelevant anecdotes and pretend they tell the story of the entire country.


      Best,

      — x

  11. Another funny, GJ! Let’s do a little sampler here, since I don’t have a lot of time.

    Serious question: why are you having a problem understanding the core premise here. The individual story — of, say, Jeremy Mardis, Tamir Rice, Michael Brown Trayvon Martin, etc — mean precisely nothing about The Big Picture. What’s so hard for you to understand about that. They’re individual incidents that tell a story only about the two or three individuals involved and nothing else.

    If you’re going to go on nothing but anecdotes, then every black-on-black murder proves — proves — that black Americans hate all other black Americans. We understand that to be absurd because we know that anecdotes tell us nothing about the big picture.

    You haven’t been going easy on me — you haven’t been saying anything about the actual topic at hand! That’s not “going easy,” that’s being dumb. The only question: are you being dumb because you’re dumb? I suspect not. I don’t think you’re dumb. Therefore, you’re being dumb, and choosing not to put forth any points on the actual subject at hand — “white racism is not a big problem in America today” — on purpose.

    Now, I’ve arrived at a conundrum. My conclusion that you’re being stupid intentionally is counter to my default assumption that the people who come here are operating in good faith. Bottom line: I need to draw a conclusion about you and operate based on the resolution of the conflict between my default assumption, and your apparently willfully stupid posts.

    There are only two options: You’re either in need of education about some real basics, or you’re being intentionally stupid, and therefore not operating in good faith. Neither is a pleasant place from which to have to proceed.

    There are other possibilities. E.g.: You’re ignorant, and headstrong. That’s a stupid place to be, but not an indicator of a lack of potential. I think I’ll go with that one for the moment.

    Ok. That’s how I’ll approach you; as one in need of education. I’ve been a teacher, let’s see whether you can be taught.

    Next: Yes, the rules here are the rules. I will enforce them as I see fit, and clean up your posts as needed. I won’t censor the substantive content, but I will not tolerate COMIRSUS.

    Next: What don’t you understand about lies? Are you really making the claim that you can tell whether I believe what I say or not? Really?!? Something no other human in the history of the world has ever been able to do, you can do? Do you really think that shows you as a serious interlocutor? Or as a buffoon? Bottom line: If I believe what I’m saying, then, by definition, I’m not lying. Period. Duh! See if you can fathom that rather simple concept.

    We’ll try this from another angle: Remember: a liar knows that she’s saying something untrue. I believe everything I say, therefore I’m not lying. However, let’s imagine the possibility that what you say is right, and what I say is wrong. Are you really willing to say you’re absolutely sure that that I’m not merely mistaken, but that I’m actually trying to deceive you, rather than persuade you? Number 1: How could you possibly know that? And, number 2: that would mean that there’s no point in our interacting with each other at all, since in your eyes, anything I say is suspect. All of which really poses the question: why would you? Interact with me, that is. If I’m a liar, what is the point in your communicating with me? After all, as a liar, I could say anything at all. Furthermore, I could edit your posts to make you say anything at all. You will acknowledge, I’m sure, that I haven’t changed any of your posts one tiny bit.

    Anyway, I’ll do more anon. I’ve run out of time for the moment.

    One last thing: You’ll note that even though I’ve said you’re wrong, I’ve never impugned your honesty, or integrity, or questioned your motives even once (except obliquely in this very post, where you kind of forced the issue with your refusal to address the actual topic). Why would you feel inclined to mount such personal attacks against me? They show you in a particularly bad light I advise against it.

    Best,

    — x

  12. Xp, its been fun chatting with you. We’ve reached the point where it is pointless to go farther. I reject your claim that I need to know your intent for me to label your claims, that are clearly at variance with the facts, as I know them, as lies. You claimed that if black cops had shot a white it wouldn’t have been reported, I gave you the Mardis case as proof that your claim was a lie. I don’t care if you new it to be a lie, but a lie it is. I’ll probably drop by in a year or two or maybe never, just to see how you are getting on with your delusions and paranoia.
    Your “imaginative” retelling of Dahmer, the white cops, their victim, and the Laotian ladies who tried to save him was hilarious but sad. Faced with a deadly incident of White racism, you tried to spin it into a fairy tale about cops being the “victims” of political correctness! Ha, what a joke!
    Your non-stop whining about anecdote is equally risible. When have you come up with anything other than anecdotes and your prejudices?
    Happy New Year to you and yours.
    Gro jo.

  13. Picking up your ball and going home to mommy, GJ? How silly.

    Here are a few facts you never knew, I’ll bet:
    • The police use force mainly to protect human life.
    • The use of force by police against unarmed suspects is rare.
    • The use of force against black Americans is largely proportional to their share of the violent crime rate.
    • As of December 24, American police had fatally shot 965 people in 2015.
    • 564 of those killed were armed with a gun.
    • 281 were armed with another weapon.
    • 90 were unarmed.
    • In fully three-quarters of shootings, police were under attack or defending someone who was under attack.

    But what about race? Well:

    • Crime doesn’t break down on neat, proportionate demographic lines. Criminals are overwhelmingly male (police killed very few women this year, but no one argues that law enforcement is sexist), and violent criminals are disproportionately black.
    • In fact, blacks commit homicide at close to eight times the rate of whites and Hispanics combined.
    • Even worse, among males between the ages of 14 and 17, the interracial homicide commission gap is nearly tenfold.
    • In 2014, for example, while black Americans constituted only about 13 percent of the population, they represented a majority of the homicide and robbery arrests.
    • 82 percent of all gun deaths in the black community are from homicide.
    • For whites, 77 percent of gun deaths are suicides

    Given these disturbing disparities, no rational person would expect police shootings to precisely track with demographics. Police follow crime, and they tend to operate in high-crime areas. It would be alarming if there were statistically significant racial variations in the use of force even after adjusting for crime rate

    If you have the courage (which you’ve pretty much admitted you don’t) to respond to this, I’ll make a confession.

    Best,

    — x

  14. Looks as though GroJo took his ball and went crying home to mommy.

    Too funny! Just one post previous to that he had said that he “was being tough on me and would continue to be tough on me.

    Lol! Real tough, there, GJ!

    The leftists all do it. Their arguments get squashed and they do the “You’re not worth my time thing” to try to save face as they tuck their tails between their timorous little legs and scurry back under their rocks.

    They tend not to last long because their “arguments” are so feeble.

    Best,

    — x

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