Even MORE Fireworks Over at the RGI!


Note: if you read the entirety of this very long post, you will end up quite amused. There are some very interesting twists and turns in it! (including cameo appearances by the banned xPraetorius! 🙂 There are even poignant moments!)


Things are heating up at the ol’ Race Grievance Industry corral! As most of you know, there are a couple of web sites that I follow — here and here — that are owned and operated by stooges of the RGI. I like to keep up with them because it lets me know what others are thinking, and I’m always on the lookout for new insights into the problems facing this, the greatest country that has ever existed.

As you also probably know, I’ve been “banned” from those sites, because the proprietors were unable to counter my disagreements with their own counter arguments, so rather than do the work of actually researching whether I was right or wrong, they simply dodged the point and banned me.

Important Note: This was not laziness, but worse: cowardice. The RGI is nothing if not deeply insecure in its beliefs! They realize that the tide of history is leaving them farther and farther behind.

Well, in recent weeks and months, “BrothaWolf” (BW) has faced some powerful disagreements, and I have a feeling that we, at our small but increasingly influential think tank, are the ones who have encouraged similar-minded people to go to his “den” —  as he styles it — and debate with him and his acolytes.

There have been two more extremely interesting dust-ups at BW’s place, and they’re notable because they underscore what we’ve been saying for some time now: the RGI has no actual evidence for their claims that America is a racist country; they have only abstract, ephemeral, unprovable — and, importantly, undisprovable — ghostly things like “institutional racism” and “structural racism,” both of which are whatever you want them to be if you’re in the RGI.

Was that a furtive glance, a seemingly insincere smile? Structural racism!  Did a white guy get promoted before a black woman? Institutional Racism! Sexism! Are there more blacks incarcerated than the percentage of the population that blacks represent? Structural Racism! Regardless of the merits or contexts involved in any of the aforementioned cases.

In the past few weeks, BW has posted several posts that have attracted the attention of some apparently Conservative commenters. These commenters have demolished BW’s premises; they’ve come in, kicked glutei maximi, and taken names.

It has distressed Brotha Wolf no end. To the point where I’ve been experiencing sympathy for this guy — really a sheep in wolf’s clothing. This, despite the fact that BW has abused me personally quite a bit. I’ve even taken to posting sympathetic posts to BW’s web site because I hate to see another person suffering. At the same time, I will not ever compromise on what is true and what is not(1).

So far, what seems true is that BW is very wrong. And, the fact that he frequently libels an entire race, means that he needs to be called on it.

From a distance — remember: I’ve been “banned” from BW’s and Abagond’s sites — I’ve called the RGI on their slanders. Others appear to have picked up the ball to run with it, and have proven worthy successors to my colleagues and me.

Without further ado, here are the posts in question(2) (Note: I’ve added a few comments, [in square brackets and red font] as well ) :

Beginning of Brotha Wolf’s First Post

Being a Problem

“How does it feel to be a problem?”

This is a question asked in W.E.B. Dubois’ treatise The Souls of Black Folk. The question doesn’t ask how does it feel to have problems or have the kinds of problems that some people can’t or won’t understand. The question directly asks how does it feel like to actually be a problem. This question is also the title of a book by Moustafa Bayoumi who gives an indepth look as to what it’s like to live in a time where being a young Arab or Muslim American is often judged as being the enemy. A threat. A terrorist.

Being a member of the “other”, especially if you’re black, you are not granted the privilege of being individuals, especially if a crime occurs. When a black person is so much as suspected of any crime, the whole race is suspect. If a black person was the suspect and there are white victims, the whole race is looked upon with disdain and mistrust, seen as the potential enemy of white folks who will seek another innocent white person to get back at them for slavery. It seems like it’s always slavery that’s the underlying reason white people believe is the reason for any black-on-white crime. But I digress.

I remember a few years ago back in 2008. A UNC Student named Eve Carson who had a potentially bright future ahead of her was robbed and murdered by two young black males. It was a major news story. A white woman was killed by not one, but two black men. I also remembered two words in one article I read. Racial tension. I hear and see those words often whenever there’s a story about an interracial crime. Usually when it’s black-on-white, that’s when a feeling of dread hits me, because I fear of repercussions for that area against the black community. When a black person commits a crime against white people, black people, not just those responsible, must be held accountable.

Most people still can’t, or won’t, grasp the racism that reeks whenever black people are seen as a collective problem that must always pay whenever a few of their own fuck up. A lot of people avoid being called the r-word by excusing it with statistics, so-called “facts” that they’ve found most likely at a racist conservative website that exaggerates numbers to prove their point.

On the other hand, white people are granted the privilege of individuality no matter how often or how heinous a crime is. Whether it’s a school shooting, a bombing, serial rape or even mass shootings, white people are given the third degree and had their culture questioned, nor are they given stern lectures to “do better” by those who unofficially appoint themselves as guidance counselors for the whole race.

It has been a few days since the Biker shootout in Waco Texas that claimed nine lives, injured over a dozen more and led to the arrest of over a hundred bikers. The media treated the bloodbath with kid gloves, turning it into a singular incident where it was an isolated tragedy and not part of a string of white-on-white crime where more than a few lives are usually taken.

However, the same media treated the protests in Baltimore and Ferguson as if it was a warzone. [They kind of were war zones! The last thing BW should do is criticize the media over those rare occasions where they actually get something right!] Pretests [sic: “Protests”] themselves became riots. Protestors became looters. Animals. Thugs. [They were thugs. Presumably many still are.] The peaceful anger and uprising vanished within the news media’s sensationalism and racism and became an outbreak of black pathology unfolding before America’s eyes. [Peaceful? Tell that to the shop owners whose establishments were “peacefully” looted and burned.]

No matter what, black people are constantly seen as the problem in America. [All people who riot over nothing, or who commit reprehensible crimes are “problems.” That black Americans commit crime in numbers vastly disproportionate to their numbers in the population isvery serious problem.] It’s safe to say that no matter what we do, our faults end up overshadowing our accomplishments as well as overall humanity and individuality though the eyes of the white racist mindframe that continuously sees itself as innocent and normal while it sees blackness as criminal, pathologic and something to be feared and taken care of mostly by imprisonment or brute force.

46 THOUGHTS ON “BEING A PROBLEM”

  1. “How does it feel to be a problem?”

    I pondered this a while back: http://macklyons.blogspot.com/2013/07/how-does-it-feel-to-be-problem.html

  2. DaShawn said:

    May 25, 2015 at 2:23 pm

    ARE you a problem? [This is the début of “DaShawn” whom I suspect of being “Rational Observer” as well.]

  3. Rational Observers said: [The début of “Rational Observer” whom I suspect of being the same guy as “Dashawn.”]

    May 27, 2015 at 1:18 pm

    This is all a bunch of paranoid raving. Where do you get these ideas? There are no “repercussions against the black community” whenever there is a black-on-white crime. To the contrary, everyone makes excuses! Well, they’re poor, or they’re unemployed, the cities need more money, or a million other fake reasons for committing a crime — ANY crime.

    If you are going to throw out wild accusations like that you have to offer evidence or some examples that you can say happen many thousands of times over the whole country.

    And the Waco bloodbath was treated exactly as it should have been treated. A bunch of trash got together and had a gun battle. No one treated anyone with “kid gloves.” No one got any pass from the media. And, just as no one blames all BLACK people for the actions of a few, no one, except pure racists, blames all WHITE people for the actions of a few.

    And for crying out loud, no one EVER blames all black people for the acts of a few. You have to be completely paranoid to believe that.

    DaShawn above asks a good question. ARE you a problem? You sure sound like one! And it’s a sure thing that your ignorance and paranoia are problems that are going to prevent you from prospering in life.

    How do I know this? I’m a rational observer.

    • I’m going to respond in one sentence. Unless you can fully understand what it’s like to be black in America or at least make an effort to do so, you will never get where I or others who speak similarly are trying to tell folks like you so quick to make asinine judgments.  [Rational Observer (he typoes it below)/DaShawn  knocks this out of the park below]

      • Rational Obsrver said: [“Rational Observer” typoes his name here. Is there a meaning?]

        May 28, 2015 at 3:48 am

        Wrong. Being able to “fully understand what it’s like to be black in America” has literally nothing whatsoever to do with understanding that your top post was a bunch of paranoid baloney. What a dumb thing to say! And how do you know what I fully understand and don’t? Cuz here’s something that’s obviously true: no one fully understands what it’s like to be black in America. That’s not even possible. I’m guessing Lebron has a different life from Denzel who has a different life from Prince who has a different life from any other black person in America! Fully understand! Ha! What an ignorant thing to say!

        You said, “No matter what, black people are constantly seen as the problem in America. It’s safe to say that no matter what we do, our faults end up overshadowing our accomplishments” Ya know, maybe if you stopped all the paranoid whining and making excuses for failure, you’d do a lot better. Time for YOU to be a rational observer, instead of just me.

      • If you weren’t being so condescending, maybe you would read my response. So, I’ll reiterate. If you don’t or won’t know what it’s like to be black in America, especially during these times, you will never truly comprehend what I’m saying. If that is so hard for you to understand, maybe you need to find another blog and quit talking to others like they’re beneath you. Just a suggestion. Or maybe you would prefer I ban you instead?

      • Maybe you ought to just listen and open your hearts and minds instead of putting down others like a hot-headed prick.

      • Rational Observer said: [Aaaand. . . no typo here. Looks as if it was just a typo above.]

        May 28, 2015 at 4:58 pm

        I should repeat what I said, because you apparently don’t read what others write. There’s no such thing as “fully understanding what it is to be black in America.” And you have no idea what I understand and don’t understand, so why don’t you stop pretending you do. It’s entirely possible that (1) what you said was silly and wrong, or (2) that you expressed it poorly, or (3) both. The point is, your post is a bunch of paranoid raving about problems that are not big in America. And as “Sorry ’bout…” said, everything you wrote was opinion and feelings. Nothing wrong with writing opinions and feelings, but if you don’t back them up with facts, then you open yourself up to the charge of writing baloney. Anyone can write down feelings, but they’re meaningless without support from facts, and as a result they just might be wrong. Look, if your post at the top is correct, then there have to be hundreds of thousands of racial incidents every year. There are a few dozen that anyone ever hears of. In a country of more than 300 million people? A few dozen means exactly nothing.

      • There are facts. You are just too blind or ignorant to see them. And you’re right. You can never fully understand what it’s like to be black in America, but you seem too lazy or too proud to even try to understand just a sliver of the black experience. Sure, we are all different, but most, if not all, have experienced racism at one point or another just the same, because even though we are not a monolith, this society treats many of us similarly. If you can’t understand that bit of reasoning, I think we’re done here. Goodbye.

      • Rational Observer said:

        May 28, 2015 at 4:59 pm

        Maybe you should listen and open your heart and mind to the FACT that you just might be wrong. All the EVIDENCE points that way

      • You have not provided any evidence.

      • Rational Observer said:

        May 28, 2015 at 11:54 pm

        When are you going to stop pretending you could possibly know what I do or do not understand?

        You have to make up your mind. In one breath you say that black people are not a monolith, and in the next, you imply that it’s possible to “fully understand” the black experience in America.

        No one can fully understand the black experience in America. And YOU have NO idea under the sun what I understand or don’t understand. Please get that through your concrete head. Why don’t you get off me and talk about what I’ve said?

        You keep talking about facts, and you refuse to produce any. I think you’re not aware of any of these so-called facts. But, I’ve been reading your blog for a while, and there HAVE been facts produced. And they all argue AGAINST your point of view. At which point you banish the ones who give you those facts.

        Ready for something I “fully understand” about the black experience in America? Here goes: no black people are trying to leave America. But there’s sure millions and millions of brown people trying to get into this supposedly racist country! [Good point here! Needless to say, we’ve made this point in the past.]

        I forget who it was that said that, but it was someone on this same blog and you banished them, of course. And what was your argument again? Oh, yeah, you supposedly had “lots and lots of facts,” but you just refused to produce them. What are you waiting for? Surely if this is such a racist country, you can point me to AT LEAST 200,000 racist incidents in the past year. [Good point!] Let’s do the math. There are about 190 million white people in America. If there were 200,000 white racist incidents in the past year, that would mean that about one white person in 1,000 would do something racist, right? If whites are so racist, then you should be able to point me to AT LEAST that many incidents. And even if you could, one racist in 1,000? Sorry, NOT a racist country. [Wow! Really good point!] I’ve read your blog, you point to a racist incident here and another one there. At the end of a given year you talk about a few dozen such incidents, and you bluster and rant and rave a lot.

      • Why should I bend over backwards to prove something to someone who’s already closed his mind off to differing thoughts, opinions and truths? Why should I waste precious time doing what an obvious troll says? Anyway, I don’t speak for all black people. I speak based on my and other people’s experiences and truths. We all have different experiences, but at some point, we all experienced racism. That is the truth. There are mountains of evidence out there that supports that racism is still going on. Even more so is that there’s proof that it’s systematic and institutionalized. That is a fact. There are articles and books, among other things, that point out that truth, and you CHOOSE to ignore them because for some reason or another, they are wrong according to you and your ilk that seems to constantly deny that racism exists.

        Here’s the bottom line, sure there are singular racist incidents, but at the end of the day, racism is systematic and institutional, like I said earlier. We see it in prisons, police actions, the media, education, even in the workforce. And if you’re still hellbent in saying that it doesn’t exist, you are purposely living in a fantasy land where ignorance is bliss. So why not stop rambling and start listening to those who may know more about racism than you, and you might learn something. Then again, you and the rest of the likeminded thinkers hate to do that. You can’t see yourself as listening and seeing what you can do to help solve the problem. Instead you condemn others for acknowledging the problem in the first place. You must really feel proud of yourself being so condescending.

        Anyway, this conversation is over. You have nothing to say that is constructive, observant or rational lol. Seriously, your comments contradict your screen name severely. How can you be a “rational observer” and yet, you conclude that racism is nothing more than a few incidents a year and not an institutional problem. That’s sad. And if you insist at going on about a subject you apparently know very little about, be my guest. But don’t be surprised when I get tired and consider your responses are nothing more than spam or trash.

      • Rational Observer said:

        May 31, 2015 at 12:00 am

        Let’s examine your nonsensical post bit-by-bit. [At this point, Rational Observer/DaShawn (at this point, I’m assuming that the two are the same person) unburdens himself of a lengthy rebuttal to BW’s post. His post is right on the mark, but I’m troubled by the idea that he is actually two people trying to make this point. What would be the point behind such subterfuge?]

        You said:
        Why should I bend over backwards to prove something to someone who’s already closed his mind off to differing thoughts, opinions and truths? Why should I waste precious time doing what an obvious troll says? Anyway, I don’t speak for all black people. I speak based on my and other people’s experiences and truths. We all have different experiences, but at some point, we all experienced racism. That is the truth. There are mountains of evidence out there that supports that racism is still going on. Even more so is that there’s proof that it’s systematic and institutionalized. That is a fact. There are articles and books, among other things, that point out that truth, and you CHOOSE to ignore them because for some reason or another, they are wrong according to you and your ilk that seems to constantly deny that racism exists.

        What’s wrong with what you said:
        No one’s asking you to “bend over backward,” but I’m suggesting that you do at least the minimum. You’re not bending over backward, you’re just lounging around doing NOTHING. You just say things with no hint of possibility of tying what you say to the general condition of the country.

        You accuse me of being a troll, but as usual, all you’re doing is focusing on me rather than on what I said. That’s a very bad habit you have. You ALWAYS accuse those who disagree with you of character flaws. That by itself is a SERIOUS character flaw of yours. You should stop it. If you were to pull out of your response to me all that’s perfectly irrelevant, you’d have nearly nothing left.

        And, it seems sad that I’d have to point this out, but you couldn’t possibly have the slightest clue as to whether I’ve closed my mind or not. You seem to reject out of hand what I say, which indicates that YOU have the closed mind. And stop the petty name-calling. It’s stupid, undignified and unbecoming an adult.

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        You said:
        we all experienced racism. That is the truth. There are mountains of evidence out there that supports that racism is still going on. Even more so is that there’s proof that it’s systematic and institutionalized. That is a fact.

        What’s wrong with what you said:
        No, “systematic and institutionalized racism” are opinions. Any rational observer knows that the idea of “institutionalized” or “systematic” racism are completely abstract concepts, so can’t be proven or disproven. That’s why the complainers hang their hats on them. Because they have no ACTUAL facts to go on. That everyone has experienced racism means nothing. Everyone has experienced a whole, wide variety of abuse; from cruelty, to insults, to pettiness, to slights, to arrogance, to condescension, to unjust firings, to layoffs, to unjust poor reviews, to temper tantrums, to cruel tricks. Life is messy, and so are personal interactions. But there’s no one rushing to leave America, so you should just face REAL facts. That fact that I just gave you, tha tno one is rushing to leave America, is a FACT that you refuse to address. Why is that, I wonder? No, I don’t really wonder about it. It’s because you have no answer to it. Oh, I can already tell you what you’ll say: “I wouldn’t bother addressing someone whose mind is closed.” Or some other attempt to dodge it. But, really, just another cheap excuse that I’ve already addressed above.

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        You said:
        There are articles and books, among other things, that point out that truth, and you CHOOSE to ignore them because for some reason or another, they are wrong according to you and your ilk that seems to constantly deny that racism exists.

        What’s wrong with what you said:
        Where did you get the positively weird idea that anyone said that racism doesn’t exist? It’s not a big problem in America, that seems obvious. Though there is black racism all over. Including here. The FACT that no one here addresses what I say, but stops ion only to accuse me of things they couldn’t possibly know, and accuses me of things they couldn’t possibly know, shows that every here (1) thinks I’m white (and they couldn’t possibly know what my color is), and (2) that they already have all sorts of preconceived notions about who and what I am BECAUSE they assume I’m white, and that’s just racist. Plain ol’ fashioned racism that you should be deeply ashamed of.

        As for all the articles and books? For every article or book you find about how racist America is, I can find just as many that prove conclusively that America is NOT racist. Should I, who have no idea what you have ever read or not read, accuse you of things I couldn’t possibly know? Like you do? Why don’t YOU get off that stupid habit too?

        However, you said you wanted facts. Okay: (1) FACT: The President of the United States is a black man, elected by white people who are, by far, the majority of voters in America. (2) FACT: there is nobody trying to get OUT of America. To the contrary, there are all sorts of people whom you call by the condescending term: “People of Color trying to get IN. By the millions. (3) FACT: White people abolished slavery, enacted Civil Rights legislation, have transferred trillions of dollars of wealth to the poor and disproportionately to brown and black people (yes, mostly to single wite woman).

        Look, no one is saying that white people are perfect, but if you have to be oppressed by a group, it sure might as well be by a group that’s doing its level best to give everything away to you. Some oppressor! So, here’s fact #4: FACT: no black people on earth have it better than here in America. If black people had it better elsewhere, then AMERICAN blacks would be doing their best to join them. Want one more? Okay, here’s #5: One of America’s 35,000 black millionaires said this: “Average folks make excuses while the wealthy make money.” That’s right here:http://www.denniskimbro.com/americas-black-millionaires-food-for-thought/#.VWpI5c9VhBc. Here’s FACT #6. Same web page, where Dennis Kimbro said: “Remember each year $1.2 trillion runs through our hands without a thing to show for it. No other ethnic group tolerates such nonsense”. Dr. Kimbro, a black man, says that black people need only to CHOOSE to be wealthy, and there won’t be anything in their way. Certainly not racism.

        Go ahead, disprove ONE, just one, of those facts. [Rational Observer/DaShawn lays down the gauntlet! Will BrothaWolf pick it up?]

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        You said:
        Here’s the bottom line, sure there are singular racist incidents, but at the end of the day, racism is systematic and institutional, like I said earlier.

        What’s wrong with what you said:
        This is, again, just an opinion that you refuse to back up with facts. That PROBABLY means you have no facts to back them up, and you’re just blindly following something. Again, all you do is say things. Back something up. I dare you. After all, I backed up what I’ve been saying. With FACTS.

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        You said:
        We see it in prisons, police actions, the media, education, even in the workforce.

        What’s wrong with what you said:
        Okay. Show it to me then. FACTS. You know: Statistics, evidence, proof. But, look out for what you write that actually proves MY points. For example: black incarceration. Yeah? What about it? It’s ABOUT at the same rate as the level of black crime in America. The media? Every time there are indications that black America is in trouble, the media fall all over themselves to find or invent excuses for riots, black crime, black murders, black violence, etc. It’s always, oh, we must find out the root causes of black criminality! No one ever makes any excuses for white criminals. Because there ARE no good excuses. Simple as that. Education? If you’re black, and you want one, education is free in America. Even if you want to study something as useless as “African-American Studies” or the like. In the workforce? Blacks are represented in the workforce and in management at about the same levels as their educational attainment. Simple fact. If you are black and you get a good education, and you present yourself pretty normally, then you will find a job in America. In fact there are LOTS of companies begging you to go work for them so they can attain their affirmative action goals and not be extorted by the likes of Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton.

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        You said:
        So why not stop rambling and start listening to those who may know more about racism than you?

        What’s wrong with what you said:
        Just another dodge, BrothaWolf. It’s apparently you who can’t stay on-topic, and have to spend all your time insulting me and pretending that it’s possible to know how much I know about racism. I gave you REAL FACTS. Stop wasting my time and yours, and address THOSE.

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        You said:
        Then again, you and the rest of the likeminded thinkers hate to do that.

        What’s wrong with what you said:
        Again, you couldn’t POSSIBLY know what I hate or don’t hate, like or don’t like, love or don’t love. And you couldn’t possibly know that about anyone else either. Again, get off the irrelevant and set about to trying to prove wrong the FACTS that I gave you.

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        You said:
        Instead you condemn others for acknowledging the problem in the first place. You must really feel proud of yourself being so condescending.

        What’s wrong with what you said:
        Never have I condemned anyone, but rather what they’ve said. If what someone says is stupid, then it’s stupid. If it’s unsubstantiated, then it’s unsubstantiated. To say otherwise would be to lie. And lying to you, as your heroes on the left do, would be one whole heck of a lot MORE condescending than being honest to you. Furthermore, how are YOUR insults of my person not condescending? And YOUR ridiculous pretense that you could possibly know what I know, or like, or think, how is that anything but condescending? [Rational Observer can be merciless! Well, if you’re a member of the RGI, or a leftist, then the truth does hurt. No wonder they resist it as ferociously and irrationally as they do!]

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        You said:
        Anyway, this conversation is over. You have nothing to say that is constructive, observant or rational lol.

        What’s wrong with what you said:
        Oh? Then it should be easy to knock my FACTS out of the park. Go ahead, give me (1) some definition of “institutional racism,” and (2) some FACTS that indicate that it’s everywhere, and (3) some indication that it’s a big problem, and not an imaginary one, for black people. I’m still waiting. So are any other rational observers. [Rational Observer just keeps coming! Even though I’m pretty sure he’s really DaShawn and Rational Observer, I like the way he thinks!]

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        You said:
        And if you insist at going on about a subject you apparently know very little about, be my guest.

        What’s wrong with what you said:
        Oh? YOU were apparently unaware of the FACTS I presented above. What does that say about YOUR level of knowledge. You seem to know NOTHING about ANYTHING that didn’t happen to YOU. [See the preceding comment about Rational Observer/DaShawn not relenting.] Your writing shows you to be profoundly ignorant of the world around you. Are you as ignorant as your writing suggests? If not, why don’t you demonstrate it? I gave you six FACTS above. Want one more? Dr. Kimbro’s figure of 1.2 trillion dollars PER YEAR works out to about $30,000 PER black person in America. If that were a family of four, they would get an annual gift of the equivalent of $120,000. Every year. That’s DAMN good money to get for free every year! All I do is give you facts. All you do is call names, and suggest that you know things that you couldn’t possibly know. So, now, how is it that I’M not a rational observer? [Again, see the preceding comment about Rational Observer/DaShawn not relenting.]

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        Why do I bother with you? Because I’m a rational observer. Your invective and immature name-calling and evasions and off-topic dodges don’t bother me at all. But they do reflect very poorly on you.

      • You must have a lot of time on your hands to worry so much about what I blog about. But it matters not. Racism exists, and if you were such a “rational observer”, you would see that. It’s obvious that you’re not. So, this conversation is nonproductive.

      • Rational Observer said:

        May 31, 2015 at 3:46 am

        Don’t you get tired of fabricating strawmen? [Very good point! BW is the king of fabricating strawmen!] Of course no one ever said that racism doesn’t exist. However, I’ve pretty much proven that it’s not a big problem, and your failure to address that fact says that you agree with that conclusion. [Pow!]

    • “How do I know this? I’m a rational observer.”

      No, you’re a biased observer with delusions of rationality.

      • It seems there are a lot of mentally unstable people out there who love coming to blogs like this one and spewing their lunacy. Nice try. They do provide comic relief though, if you can get past some of their long rantings. I usually get cross eyed after the first paragraph. [Yet another moronic post by Herneith. She’s perfectly dependable: If you never read anything she writes, you can be perfectly assured that you will miss absolutely nothing.]

      • Rational Observer said:

        May 31, 2015 at 12:03 am

        Everyone’s biased. Against a whole array of things. Just a question of what his or her biases are. Bias doesn’t have anything to do with being rational. I’d HOPE you were biased against child molestation, for example. Why would you post such a stupid post, Mack?

      • That comment makes no sense. And Mack made a very rational observation.

      • Rational Observer said:

        May 31, 2015 at 12:11 am

        Wow, Herneith! You allowed a mentally unstable person to come in here and logically clean your clock? What does that make you? Oof! Better take your “happy pills” again, you’re playing out of your intellectual league. [Oof! As much as I might disapprove of RO and DaShawn being the same guy, RO pummeled Herneith here!]

      • Rational Observer said:

        May 31, 2015 at 3:53 am

        What was difficult to understand, BW? Mack called me biased. I simply pointed out the obvious: EVERYBODY’s biased. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being biased. In fact, it’s IMPORTANT to be biased.

        Bias has no bearing on whether one is rational or not. I then pointed out something against which everyone ought to be biased.

        When Mack said I was biased, he was implying that bias and rationality are mutually exclusive. They’re not. Therefore Mack’s post was stupid. It was clearly and succinctly stated, and wrong.

      • You conservatives can’t stand being called out, can ya?

      • Rational Observer said:

        May 31, 2015 at 5:08 pm

        How do you come to THAT silly conclusion? Mack said something patently stupid. It would have been dishonest of me not to point it out to him. If someone successfully “calls me out,” I will be the first to admit it, and to acknowledge his or her superior argument. I have no desire to win, only to learn. You should try that sometime. [Bam!]

  4. @ ‘Wolf, “It’s safe to say that no matter what we do, our faults end up overshadowing our accomplishments as well as overall humanity and individuality though the eyes of the white racist mindframe that continuously sees itself as innocent and normal while it sees blackness as criminal, pathologic and something to be feared and taken care of mostly by imprisonment or brute force.” THIS!!!

    Sidenote: Is anyone reallY buying into this obvious troll’s name being “DaShawn”? Nice try, but you lose-thanks for playin’ though.. lbvs

    • DaShawn said:

      May 28, 2015 at 3:55 am

      Is anyone buying into MzNikita’s pretending she’s a black woman? She’s obviously a white spy trying to make black people look stupid by posting her brainless fluff. Nice try, BUFFY!

      BrothaWolf, I respectfully request that you ban “Mz.Nikita.” If she’s REALLY black, which I doubt, then that’s just really embarrassing. Otherwise, it seems obvious she’s just a white spy. [Now, there’s a twist I didn’t see coming. Really clever, though, and a really good point! Don’t forget: I think that DaShawn and Rational Observer are the same dude. Wow! This is getting complicated!]

      • Request denied.

      • DaShawn said:

        May 28, 2015 at 5:01 pm

        I figured as much. She’s an embarrassment, but she a racist embarrassment, so she’s okay on your site.

        I still think she’s a white racist man who’s writing the stupid tripe she does to try to make it seem like black people are stupid. [Lol! This is too funny! DaShawn makes an ingenious point here.]

      • I’ve known this woman for quite some time, and she would never, ever do such a thing.

      • DaShawn said:

        May 28, 2015 at 11:58 pm

        I don’t think you’re telling the truth. Maybe YOU’RE a white guy too. I think she’s white lady named Buffy, and you’re a white guy named Stan, and you’re both trying to make black people look stupid by posting the crap you post. I dare you to prove you’re black. [Lololololol!!! Here, DaShawn/Rational Observer accuses BW of being a white guy! And, ya know what? There’s no real proof that he’s not! This does demonstrate upside and the downside of blogs like this one and BrothaWolf’s: the futility of addressing anything but the ideas expressed. ]

      • You can’t prove anything to one who’s mind is already closed. Anyway, if you don’t like what I post, why bother visiting? That makes no sense, but then again, neither are your accusations. [Here, BW does it again. Draws conclusions about someone else rather than simply getting down to addressing what he’s said. Of course the real reason for this is that the RGI long since ran out of gas, so all they have is personal attacks. Remember also: If you want to know what the left is guilty of, examine the accusations they make of those who disagree with them. Our growing band of writers all scrupulously adhere to one very important rule: we never engage in personal attacks on those with whom we’re debating. as mentioned above, it’s the very first sign of being out of argument gas. In my long experience with debating the left, the personal attack is their first resort. The reason is simple: insecurity in their ideas. They act as though they believe that they need to “soften up” the opposition before ever locking horns with them in debate. In so doing, they must think, they leave the field open to the casual: “Well everyone knows that the group my opponent belongs to is overflowing with racists.”

        Think back to how the left — and their accomplices in the media — greeted the Tea Party. There was never a single shred of evidence that there was any racism whatsoever in the Tea Party. To the contrary, in fact, there was overwhelming evidence that the Tea Party was nothing if not extremely inclusive, encompassing social Conservatives, as well as economic Conservatives, Libertarians and social liberals. The one unifying principle of the Tea Party — having nothing whatsoever to do with race — was an agreement that the government should be smaller, and its scope and reach significantly diminished. But the left, and the media, repeated the racism accusation so many times, that the fabrication made its way into Americans’ general understanding of the Tea Party.

        For the history-minded among you, the “father” of this technique, and one-time darling of the left was none other than Adolf Hitler, and the technique is a variation of what is known as the “The Big Lie” Theory. That is:  the principle that when one lies, one should lie big, and stick to it. Then keep up the lies, even at the risk of looking ridiculous. (

  5. @ Mack Lyons, I read that great article o’ yours awhile back too-and it’s just as poignant then as it is now!

  6. Sorry ’bout that said:

    May 28, 2015 at 4:06 am

    While I highly doubt Brothawolf nor anyone on Brothawolf’s site has ever been a problem in any way, I would ask anyone if the following constitutes a problem:

    http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Father-Memorial-Day-Philadelphia-Attack-Group-Juniata-305061081.html

    Contrast that with “feelings” that some, not all but some, black families claim to receive from white neighbors when they are alone in the neighborhood. Compare “feelings,” which are relative and unique to each individual, and “bad looks” to the above. Are the individuals involved in the harassment and violence mentioned in the piece worried about being perceived as “problems?”

    Would they perhaps rather fit well into this shirt:

    The “Don’t Tread On Me” coiled snakes are a nice touch.

    Just a question and some food for thought. [“Sorry ’bout that” jumps in with a post that supports, anecdotally, what I’ve been saying. Interestingly, no one responds to him! It appears that Rational Observer/DaShawn have/has sucked the air out of the room.]

  7. ..Thanks for settin’ the Projectionist Troll, dear ‘Wolf! 3 things I have Never been accused of in my life: #)1 Being perceived as “white” (though having a Cali “accent” has caused people to jokingly say that I “speak white”, as though POC are only capable of grunting and not being able to talk English properly-snarf!), #2) Being called a man (it doesn’t get any curvier than yours truly), and #3) Being called an “embarrassment” to myself, family, friends and/or anyone who knows me personally-quite the opposite actually as even my own teachers throughout my school years up to University have are and quite proud of being affiliated with moi as student and helpful classroom participant. So, take that in your pipe and smoke it along with those “rocks” you’re obviously puffin’ on as well! lolol

    Sidenote: For the record, I’ve never listed my full Multi-ethnic background on this site so You Lose again!!! [Watch how Rational Observer/Dashawn deals with this. Note: its here that Rational Observer and DaShawn seem to indicate that they’re the same person.]

    • DaShawn said:

      May 31, 2015 at 12:08 am

      Nor have I listed my background, yet you presumed to tell me what my background is. Mz.Nikita, or should I call you Mr.Nikita, you’re definitely a racist white man, trying to make black people look stupid with your idiotic posts. And your clever, but fake, biography, isn’t fooling anyone. You’re obviously a racist white troll and BrothaWolf should ban you. [Lol! I almost fell off my chair reading this! Talk about dishing out their own medicine to the RGI!]

      • Deshawn, again, I’ve known Mz. Nikita longer than you. I know she’s genuine. I don’t know what your beef is with her, but you need to chill out.

      • Rational Observer said:

        May 31, 2015 at 4:00 am

        BW: knowing nothing about me whatsoever, she accused me of not being who I say I am. Here’s her quote: “Sidenote: Is anyone reallY buying into this obvious troll’s name being “DaShawn”? Nice try, but you lose-thanks for playin’ though.. lbvs”

        Well, by definition, that means that it’s okay for me to accuse Nikita of not being who he says he is. He’s obviously a white spy trying to make black folks, and particularly black women, look stupid by posting really stupid posts. After all, “Nikita” IS a man’s name. [This is the post that seems to reveal that Rational Observer and DaShawn are the same person. It appears that Rational Observer responded when DaShawn should have.]

  8. “Thanks for settin’ the Projectionist Troll straight”..typo

    1. ..Yawn, get off my bra strap, Mrs. “Duh-Shawn”-why are trolls always sO fascinated with pestering me(?) *Shrugs* I’ve always liked my mom’s cool thinkin’ outside o’ the box by giving me such an Androgynous name (a Russian boys And girl’s name) and I’m not even a Soviet! lol Hippy parents are cool like that..

— END OF BROTHA WOLF’S FIRST POST —

 – * –

At this point, BrothaWolf unburdens himself of yet another plaintive cri de coeur.  Exasperated by the drubbing that DaShawn/Rational Observer administered to him, he decides to post this next rather bedraggled attempt to provide “proof” of just how racist America is. He ends up quoting only other members of the Race Grievance Industry, and even pulls in someone who crowed that Clint Eastwood  admitted to having voted for John McCain in ’08 because McCain is white. Except for one small thing. Eastwood never did that, and it apparently took DaShawn/Rational Observer very little time to find that out.

Again, BW breaks out strawman after strawman, arguing vociferously and passionately, or plaintively and whiningly, depending on the moment, against arguments and statements that no one ever made. I have to give them credit, though: they stick to it! You can tell them what you’re thinking all you want, they’ll call you a liar and tell you they know what you’re thinking better than you do! When you point out the preposterousness of that, they just do it again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again… and one more time. You’ll see that below, as BW and his acolytes break out that tired, bedraggled canard: “You’re denying the existence of racism!

Don Quixote lives on in the Race Grievance Industry; still tilting away at terrifying windmills that sure look to him like white racism.

Below is Brotha Wolf’s second post, with accompanying comments in [square brackets and red font].

— BEGINNING OF BROTHA WOLF’S SECOND POST —

You Can’t Handle the Proof

I sit here rubbing my temples at the influx of commenters out to refute any single article written about racism. [This is a bit of hyperbole. BW doesn’t write “articles about racism,” he writes propaganda tracts, whining about imaginary white racism. Oh, white racism out there, but in BW’s fertile imagination, he’s transformed the arthritic, tottering, wheezing, old rat that is the dying remnant of white racism, into a snarling, ravening, massive, muscular bear.] The overall theme of these hive-minded drones [That’s particularly ironic, coming from this sheep in wolf’s clothing!] is that racism is either not a big problem or that it’s comprised of singular incidents that only occur a few times per year. Whatever the case, they not only want to tell me that racism is not as big a thing as I claim it to be, but they rant about me showing them some proof. [Goodness gracious! Can’t have that! Of course unsupported generalities, and unsubstantiated invective are sufficient from which to draw conclusions! Why would anyone need proof for horrific accusations?!? The fact that the accusation is made ought to be sufficient, right?] Don’t laugh. They want me to prove that racism is a major issue.

I take issue with that favor, or command rather, for a few reasons. One, they expect me to go out of my way to prove something when they can just do some of the research themselves. [If you read DaShawn/Rational Observer’s argument, you will see that he’d done quite a bit of research, and quite a bit of thinking about the subject.] Two, they have a hint of this master-slave mentality that they bring where if I don’t comply, they go off the deep end and lash out as if I was lower than scum. [Never forget to bring in “slavery,” though, how that would pertain to a quite reasonable request for evidence pertaining to serious accusations is likely to remain a mystery.] And three, and the most obvious reason, they wouldn’t except [sic] it anyway. We’ve seen it happen all the time, every time with these commenters. So, even if you do produce some evidence, they’re [sic] refute it and scream for something that’s not, as they consider it, leftist because anything that’s not right is obviously left, and that’s plain wrong to them. (There is no middle ground for them. It’s either right or left) [Uhhhhhhhhhhhh… wh-wh-whuh?]

Racism is an institutionalized business that permeates virtually every facet of society from education to the media and even the workforce. There are mountains of evidence that prove that racism exists. [Interestingly, BW refuses to provide any. If there were such mountains, needless to say, it would be child’s play to produce some.] Yet, this seemingly never-ending parade of naysayers want me, and perhaps everyone else, to believe otherwise. What’s worse is that they portray themselves as intellectuals who know more about racism than those who actually experienced it. [How does one’s experience with racism prevent anyone from understanding racism? And, how does BW know the extent to which anyone else has experienced racism? Answer: He doesn’t.] And they get pissed to the point of telling you how wrong you supposed to be when you make it known that racism is a significant problem in America. [That’s the one thing BW hasn’t done, is provide some indication somewhere that white racism (When BW refers to “racism,” he means “white racism.”) is a significant problem in America. Surprisingly I believe that racism is a significant problem in America. Black racism in the Race Grievance Industry. It’s holding black Americans back, and it poisons race relations in America. When blacks are racist, it’s easy, breezy and they display it openly, and without hesitation. And it’s deadly for America.]

These people operate passing themselves as almost scholarly with a knack for conducting and winning arguments. They tell you how wrong every single point you made is after they copy and paste them. In the mix they may even condemn them by calling your comments names as if they’re four-year olds fighting with other four-year olds. And when you can’t take their mess anymore, then they make you feel low. They may even get so crazy enough to think they’ve won the argument, patting themselves on the back for being “right”.

But the irony is that there is no argument when something is true. Racism is here. It’s part of this country’s culture. Arguing whether or not it exists is like trying to prove that water is wet.

Besides, what kind of proof are these loons looking for? [BW is big on accusing others of name-calling, but he never holds back himself. Interestingly, I scrupulously avoided insulting or calling names when I was locking horns with them. However, that didn’t prevent them from accusing me of it.] What kind of proof will they accept? [How about: Credible proof? Mebbe he could try some of that. Apparently there are mountains of it just lying around everywhere! As mentioned above, it should be child’s play to produce some.] What evidence would sway them to see the point of view of others? [As BW and his friends have been so goshdarned flexible and reasonable in seeing the point of view of others? 🙂 Sheesh! Do these people even read what they write?] Judging by these people who apparently have the same mind, I doubt any kind of evidence, empirical or otherwise, would convince them of anything other than show how they are either too ignorant or too much in denial about the existence of racism.

These people would scoff at the following for whatever reason: [How about (1) they’re non-credible, not even close, and (2) the first three argue against points no one is trying to make, and (3) some of them contain out-and-out falsehoods, and (4) one is a college assignement! ]

If This Doesn’t Prove That Racism Still Exists, We Don’t Know What Will  [See above: no one is trying to suggest that racism doesn’t exist.]

Top 10 Reasons Why Racism Exists  [As many say: smh]

Racism Still Exists: The Worst Tweets From The #WhyDoBlackPeople Twitter Trend [A few dozen tweets prove that nearly all 200 million white people are racists! Some of the tweeters are black too! ]

15 Charts That Prove We’re Far From Post-Racial [Duh! Who really believes we’re “Post-racial?” The Race Grievance Industry is awash in racism.]

STUDENT GROUP RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS ABOUT RACISM [Ooooooohhhh… yep. college students’ opinions prove that all 190 million white Americans are racists. smh again!]

Shocking New Studies Show Racism Exists, Affects People’s Actions [In a related news flash: All people’s states of mind affect their actions!]

Fox New’s Megyn Kelly can’t handle the truth about race and the justice system.  [Just an out-and-out falsehood.]

These are online articles. Sure. But they have links to actual studies that show that racism is a major problem in this country. But as we’ve all witnessed, crazy commenters will do what they can to refute that fact. They may as well argue in favor of the belief that Earth is flat while they’re at it. [Lol! One of my favorite images for the Race Grievance Industry is “flat earthers.” I’m glad to see that I’ve had such an effect on BW!]

22THOUGHTS ON “YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE PROOF”

  1. There’s nothing anyone can do to convince people of something they don’t want to believe. You can only hope they get educated for their own benefit. there’s a negative correlation between racism and education. The broader your understanding of the world, the less likely you are to be a racist, in other words. [If you read this kind of blog, you quickly come to realize that they are very, very long on what I call “just saying things.” This is an example. If you break down his post, you can see what I mean.

    Let’s do the exercise:

    • Sentence #1: “There’s nothing anyone can do to convince people of something they don’t want to believe.” Okay. That’s fine as far as it goes, but so what? It hasn’t said anything about anyone or anything that we didn’t already know. The implication, of course, is that those who disagree with the author of this post are unpersuadable. This is something that ericjbaker could not possibly know. 

    • Sentence #2: “You can only hope they get educated for their own benefit.” Again, a nice thought. And, again, the implication is that those who disagree need more education. But the level of education that anyone has is, again, perfectly unknown, and most importantly, unknowable to ericjbaker.

    • Then he says, Sentence #3: “there’s a negative correlation between racism and education,” which is simply not either knowable, or … likely even true. The most educated people in the world, the faculties of American universities, are the most racist people in America outside of the aggressively racist Race Grievance Industry, for whom imaginary white racism is a lucrative business.

    • Okay, next sentence, Sentence #4: “The broader your understanding of the world, the less likely you are to be a racist, in other words.” Another meaningless platitude that ericjbaker hopes is true, but (1) for which he offers no substantiation, and (2) is likely false, given the overt racism of the American professoriate.

    • This is the kind of meaningless fluff that’s supposed to pass for convincing argumentation in the RGI.]

    • Exactly. [Aaaaaand BrothaWolf endorses it!]

      • They are a waste of space. Don’t even bother trying to convince them. They only wish to make themselves feel better by denigrating others. It is like this; if someone is not in my trajectory, [Huh?] why bother about them? The fact that they need to pontificate ad nausea on black blogs, puts paid to the notion of their indifference. [Really? Isn’t this rather convincing evidence of the exact opposite of indifference?]  I’ll repeat my refrain; Ignore them or mock them!

  2. Rational Observer said:

    May 31, 2015 at 3:41 pm

    Okay, finally you made an effort to do a bit more than just saying something. Let’s see what you said, bit-by-bit again: [Here, Rational Observer/DaShawn unleashes a blistering, and long! dissertation, chock full of actual evidence for his points. I’ll let the long response speak for itself, with minimal commentary, mostly because I agree with it.]

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    You said:

    I sit here rubbing my temples at the influx of commenters out to refute any single article written about racism. The overall theme of these hive-minded drones is that racism is either not a big problem or that it’s comprised of singular incidents that only occur a few times per year. Whatever the case, they not only want to tell me that racism is not as big a thing as I claim it to be, but they rant about me showing them some proof. Don’t laugh. They want me to prove that racism is a major issue.

    My response:

    Well, yeah. If you say something about something being a “major issue,” you NEED to put forward some kind of compelling evidence that quantifies and qualifies the so-called issue. Vague claims that “everyone knows it” or “it’s everywhere if only you look for it,” or even worse, “you have to be black to understand it” mean nothing. Worse, they’re designed to prevent actual understanding by pretending that you have to have special powers that only certain people can have, or that you have to be clued into the secret club. If you have to be black to understand the black experience, or if you have to have experienced racism to understand racism, then you have to be white to understand what whites mean or their intent or their motivations. [Great point!  Gee, I wonder who’s been trying to make this point for some time?]

    If the races can’t communicate because of the color of their skin, then there is no hope. Yet, the races HAVE got along just fine, and DO get along just fine in certain places, so this notion that some are clued in due to the color of their skin is nonsense.

    An oncologist doesn’t need to experience cancer to understand what it is to be sick. Racism is nothing unique, but rather just another flavor of human cruelty. [Good point!] There’s nothing difficult, or mystical and magical about it that requires any special understanding. It’s wrong and bad. Like cruelty, or pettiness, or arrogance, or condescension, or vindictiveness, or narrow-mindedness. In fact, ALL human faults are all of those things. No, racism’s nothing special, and requires no special qualifications for the knowing of it, just the understanding of human cruelty. Any human can understand it perfectly well.

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    You said:

    I take issue with that favor, or command rather, for a few reasons. One, they expect me to go out of my way to prove something when they can just do some of the research themselves. Two, they have a hint of this master-slave mentality that they bring where if I don’t comply, they go off the deep end and lash out as if I was lower than scum. And three, and the most obvious reason, they wouldn’t except it anyway. We’ve seen it happen all the time, everytime with these commenters. So, even if you do produce some evidence, they’re refute it and scream for something that’s not, as they consider it, leftist because anything that’s not right is obviously left, and that’s plain wrong to them. (There is no middle ground for them. It’s either right or left)

    My response:

    First, no one “commanded” you to do anything. I simply stated the obvious: if you’re going to say something inflammatory about an entire race, as you do all the time, then it is YOUR responsibility to back that up. You haven’t done that, so your claims are looking more and more like libel. I can do, and have done, all sorts of research. YOU need to back up your OWN claims. I’m not responsible for supporting your positions. That’s not my job, it’s yours. YOU bear that responsibility.

    This “master-slave” nonsense is just that: nonsense. Paranoid nonsense at that. Do you think that you’re somehow exempt from the rules that ALL people have to follow, to make a case for something? Just because you’re black? No. YOU have to do the work to prove you’re not just blowing smoke. You are telling an untruth about the “lashing out as if you were lower than scum.” That’s shameful. I’ve never attacked YOU, but rather what you’ve written. Your paranoia about my state of mind suggests that you might simply be paranoid about racism as well. If you can’t address what’s ACTUALLY being said, how can you have any credibility in your posts about racism?

    About your leftism. On your very own site, you have an “I voted” button. I assume you didn’t vote for any Republican candidates. I’ve been reading your blog posts. No, I’m guessing you voted for either the Democrat, or someone to the left of the Democrat. Furthermore, your ARGUMENTS are word-for-word the arguments of the left.

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    You said:

    Racism is an institutionalized business that permeates virtually every facet of society from education to the media and even the workforce. There are mountains of evidence that prove that racism exists. Yet, this seemingly never-ending parade of naysayers want me, and perhaps everyone else, to believe otherwise. What’s worse is that they portray themselves as intellectuals who know more about racism than those who actually experienced it. And they get pissed to the point of telling you how wrong you supposed to be when you make it known that racism is a significant problem in America.

    My response:

    “Racism is an institutionalized business that permeates virtually every facet of society from education to the media and even the workforce.” What does that even mean? You need to DEFINE “institutionalized racism,” then give compelling evidence that it’s more than just imaginary. This is obvious.
    “There are mountains of evidence that prove that racism exists.” Again, without PRODUCING a SHRED of such evidence, this is meaningless. More to the point, though, no one is arguing that racism doesn’t exist. When are you going to abandon this strawman, BW? You CONSTANTLY argue against a point that NOBODY is trying to make.
    “What’s worse is that they portray themselves as intellectuals who know more about racism than those who actually experienced it.” Having the experience of racism is not needed in order to understand racism. This is so glaringly obvious that it shouldn’t need to be said. As for portraying myself as an intellectual, what’s the problem with that? I AM an intellectual. Should I portray myself as an ignoramus? What would be the point of that? Should I portray myself as uneducated? I’m NOT uneducated. I prefer to be honest with you. You need to understand this: a victim of racism doesn’t necessarily have a greater understanding of racism than someone who’s studied it for a long time. The victim might understand the EFFECTS better, but that’s it. The student of racism can understand perfectly well that the EFFECTS are bad, and resolve to find the CAUSES and ways to eradicate it. And, yes, the student of racism, no matter his race, would understand racism better than an actual victim. In fact, it could be argued that the VICTIM understands racism WORSE than the unbiased, student of the phenomenon, because the victim’s point-of-view might be tainted by a desire for revenge.
    “And they get pissed to the point of telling you how wrong you supposed to be when you make it known that racism is a significant problem in America.” This is meaningless. If racism is NOT a significant problem in America, then it would be morally wrong NOT to point it out to you. Especially when you make a point of tarring an ENTIRE race with your accusations of racism. If you make those accusations, then you have a moral obligation to back up your incendiary claims.

    One last thing: It’s obvious that the cancer doctor understands cancer better than the cancer patient. Please get rid of the silly idea that if one is a victim of racism, then he AUTOMATICALLY has a better understanding of racism than anyone else. He just doesn’t.

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    You said:

    These people operate passing themselves as almost scholarly with a knack for conducting and winning arguments. They tell you how wrong every single point you made is after they copy and paste them. In the mix they may even condemn them by calling your comments names as if they’re four-year olds fighting with other four-year olds. And when you can’t take their mess anymore, then they make you feel low. They may even get so crazy enough to think they’ve won the argument, patting themselves on the back for being “right”.

    My response:

    Look, BW, there’s just nothing wrong with arguing against points. You should try it sometime, instead of engaging in the constant personal attacks. That’s the point of an argument. It’s YOU who go off calling people names, and accusing them of all sorts of irrelevant nonsense. Then YOU get ticked off because they defend themselves against your scurrilous accusations. You can’t “call a comment a name.” If a comment is stupid, then calling it such is simply attaching an adjective to it. Name-calling can be done only to people, and it’s you who indulge in it, by calling people racists, or “hive-minded drones,” (as YOU did above) or “loons” (as YOU did above), or liars, or ignorant (as you have insinuated NUMEROUS times). YOU’RE the name-caller, BW, and you seem to want to be free to continue to insult people while insulating yourself from criticism. That indicates great immaturity. [Wow! Rational Observer apparently agrees with us here: If you want to know what the left is guilty of, just examine what they’re accusing their opponents of!]

    An important point: NOBODY on earth can “make you feel low” except you. If you ARE a rational observer, then it would be impossible to offend or insult you. You need to stop whining about what people say about you, because it can’t hurt you. Only YOU can hurt you. [And, that’s a good point too!]

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    You said:

    But the irony is that there is no argument when something is true. Racism is here. It’s part of this country’s culture. Arguing whether or not it exists is like trying to prove that water is wet.

    My response:

    Wrong: EVERYTHING is ALWAYS subject to examination and RE-examination. If everyone had simply accepted Newtonian physics, then there’d be no theory of relativity or quantum physics. If everyone had accepted as true the notion that the earth is flat, then THAT would be the accepted belief today. Each of these things was either fixed or modified by deeper and deeper and still deeper examination of things that had long been accepted. [This guy’s good!]

    Racism is NOT part of the country’s culture in any meaningful way. At least among white people. And, I shouldn’t have to say this, but I will anyway. If you’re going to assert that water is wet, as part of a larger argument, then you DO have to be sure that you can prove it, AND that you understand, and can demonstrate, your understanding of the definition of “wet,” AND that you AND your interlocutor AGREE on that definition. All that is self-evident. The point: Water IS wet. We can all be confident that we all agree on that, and on the definition of wet. However, In the realm of something as subjective as states of mind, like racism, you’re even MORE obligated to be sure that you don’t just toss accusations and slanders and libels around.

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    You said:

    Besides, what kind of proof are these loons looking for? What kind of proof will they accept? What evidence would sway them to see the point of view of others? Judging by these people who apparently have the same mind, I doubt any kind of evidence, empirical or otherwise, would convince them of anything other than show how they are either too ignorant or too much in denial about the existence of racism.

    My response:

    “Loons?” Who’s the REAL name caller here, BW? So, what kind of proof would ANYONE accept? REAL proof. FACTS, from credible sources. I gave you such FACTS (see below), yet YOU seem unswayed by those genuine facts that no one seems to dispute.

    And, of course, no one denies the existence of racism, so that is just another strawman, another example of BW trying to argue against a point no one’s trying to make.

    Now, on to your “evidence.”

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    Link 1: “If This Doesn’t Prove That Racism Still Exists, We Don’t Know What Will” (http://aplus.com/a/black-white-men-racism-alive?so=mECtqYuSQVuVfLTDC8xpYf&ref=ns)

    My response:

    Well. A link with a video arguing against a point nobody’s ever tried to make.Everyone knows that racism exists. No one addresses the apparent fact that it’s just not a big problem in America anymore.

    This video DOES bring up the various studies that point to the idea that “black names” on résumés don’t generate as many calls back for employment opportunities as do white names. This COULD indeed be troubling, if there were not greater context. There are ALSO studies showing that there is a built-in bias in FAVOR of black job applicants (aka Affirmative Action). The question: which phenomenon is of greater magnitude? Absent the answer to THAT question, things like this video are interesting data points, but don’t allow anyone to make any conclusions.

    One more point: the above link is to an opinion blog that is loaded with left-wing fluff. It’s NOT a news organization. There’s nothing wrong with opinion blogs, but opinion bloggers are obligated to use FACTS to bolster their opinions. This blogger chooses a “study” that is not given context. And there is a lot of potential counter-balancing cntext that could come out of the answer to my aboive-posed question: WHICH bias is greater that AGAINST black job applicants, or that FOR black job applicants. My argument is that there should be no bias whatsoever in the realm of skin color. Abolish Affirmative Action AND prosecute skin color discrimination, against ANY color, vigorously. Period. [This is the major problem of the Race Grievance Industry. No one is trying to argue that racism doesn’t exist. There’s literally not a single person whom anyone takes seriously, trying to make the argument that white racism doesn’t exist. But the RGI come back over and over and over and over and over again to trying to argue  that (1) people are trying to make that argument, and (2) that they, the RGI, have proof, proof I tell you! that it exists. Ooooookay. No one says it doesn’t. In the months and months and months that others and I have been locking horns with the RGI,  literally no one — not a single person — has tried to make the argument that “white racism doesn’t exist.” However, there are plenty who have offered convincing evidence that it’s simply not a big problem in America anymore. 

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    Link 2: Top 10 Reasons Why Racism Exists (http://listcrux.com/top-10-reasons-why-racism-still-exists/)

    My response:

    Again, from the headline: arguing against a point that nobody’s ever tried to make. However, BW, this is just simply bad. [Lol! Here it is again!]

    Item #5 contains a complete falsehood, suggesting that Clint Eastwood said: “I voted for McCain because he was white. ‘Cuz that’s why other folks vote for other people – because they look like them. … That’s American politics, pure and simple.” Eastwood never said that, and here’s the debunking, with full explanation: http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/twilightyears.asp. [Yep. I verified independently that Eastwood never said anything close to that.]

    The rest of the ENTIRE page is either opinion, or the page owner’s repeating someone else’s unsubstantiated opinion.

    You implied that I’d argue against your “evidence” for whatever reason. How about THIS reason: It’s wrong, full of inaccuracies and unsubstantiated opinions and conjecture. Item #5 alone condemns the page as not credible. Come on, BW, ANYONE can find fringe kooks out there to support ANY idea. All indications are that this guy is a fringe kook.

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    Link 3: Racism Still Exists: The Worst Tweets From The #WhyDoBlackPeople Twitter Trend (http://elitedaily.com/news/world/racism-still-exists-the-worst-tweets-from-the-whydoblackpeople-twitter-trend/)

    My response:

    Yet ANOTHER post arguing against a point that no one’s ever tried to make! This one, though, purports to “prove” the point by pulling out a couple of dozen tweets from a “twitterverse” of BILLIONS of daily tweets. And several of the tweeters are REPEAT tweeters. One tweeter was black! I’ll repeat what I said elsewhere. There are 190 millon white people in America. Unless you can show convincing evidence that there are MILLIONS of racists among them, then you haven’t shown anything. More to the point, whoever it was who suggests that a couple dozen tweets “proves” anything just made MY case for me: racism among blacks is MUCH more prevalent than among whites. I suspect you will be able to find MILLIONS of tweets suggesting that whites are evil, and scum, and lousy, no-good, rotten dirtbags all OVER the twitterverse. The point: You shouldn’t try to make a point that only ends up making the point of the dude you’re arguing against! [Pow!]

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    Link 4: 15 Charts That Prove We’re Far From Post-Racial (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/02/civil-rights-act-anniversary-racism-charts_n_5521104.html)

    My response:

    Chart #1: Okay, if you believe the first chart, then there are WAY more “middle income” and “affluent” blacks than whites. It’s right there in the first chart. Presumably, the chart is NOT trying to make us believe that there is “poverty” among Middle-income and Affluent households, so the first chart is just meaningless, as it implies that black people are a lot wealthier than white people in America. I’m guessing that is not what YOU are trying to argue, BW.

    Chart #2: Chart #2 says, “There’s a big disparity in wealth between white Americans and non-white Americans,” and proceeds to show the disparity. Okay. I agree. That’s a problem. But it’s not a RACISM problem. Nor does it indicate that there is not equal opportunity in America. Finally, though, BW, you’ve identified an ACTUAL problem. The CAUSE of the problem, though, is NOT racism, at least not as YOU’VE understood it, but a whole host of other things.

    Chart #3: Chart #3 says, ” The racial wealth gap kept widening well after the Civil Rights era.” Yep. I agree with this too. And the direct reason is the vast collection of social welfare legislation that Lyndon Johnson, a Southern segregationist, by the way, promulgated and called: “The Great Society.” The headline is misleading, though. Before the Civil Right era, the fastest-growing economic demographic in the United States was: black people. The Democrats stopped that economic growth and killed the economic dynamism of black Americans in its tracks. It’s jaw-droppingly unbelievable that blacks CONTINUE to vote for Democrats who stabbed them in the back, and to shun Republicans, who were responsible for Civil Rights legislation, while opposing the Great Society programs.

    Chart #4: Chart #4 says, “The Great Recession didn’t hit everyone equally.” Duh! ALL recessions hurt the poor more than the less poor. More black people are poor, therefore the Great Recession hit them harder. This is not in dispute, but has no bearing on whether America is racist or not.

    Chart #5 is interesting: It says: “In the years before the financial crisis, people of color were much more likely to be targeted for subprime loans than their white counterparts, even when they had similar credit scores.” Yes, that’s absolutely true. By law! It was called the CRA (The Community Reinvestment Act), and it ordered mortgage companies to relax lending standards for blacks and hispanics in order to get them into home ownership in greater numbers. The theory was that they would then have a greater opportunity to build wealth, as at the time, a home was considered the single most important investment anyone could make. Far from being a proof of racism, this was a very ill-advised multi-trillion dollar gift to black Americans that almost sank the American economy and brought about the Great Recession. The point: if, BW, you are going to try to define white racism as “white people giving black Americans heaps of money,” then maybe you should stop complaining about it. Between you and me, I don’t think that the relaxation of credit standards did ANYONE any favors, but it was at least, obviously, NOT a racist act.

    The rest of the charts are the same, in that they either fail to give the necessary context, or are full of the same conjecture as in BW’s first three links (some talk about the same topics as well. For example: Chart #15: “Employers are more likely to turn away job seekers if they have African-American-sounding names.”) Some of the charts deal with the disproportionate incarceration rates for black people. However, absent the understanding of black crime rates in the same discussion, then there is, again, necessary context missing. Same with the chart about black kids being punished more frequently and more harshly in schools. Well, do they misbehave more frequently? And more seriously? Without that answer, again, the chart is meaningless.

    Now, however, I’m going to shock you. I agree with the premise of the link. We are NOT post-racial. We just got rid of the most racist Attorney General in the history of the United States, Eric Holder, and we have a race-obsessed President. Of COURSE we’re not post-racial. But, the race story is a LOT more complex than BW would have you believe, and contains a huge element, the 900-pound gorilla in the room, of unaddressed BLACK racism.

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    Link 5: STUDENT GROUP RESPONSES TO QUESTIONS ABOUT RACISM (http://users.ipfw.edu/hollandd/RACe%20ISSUES.HTM)

    My response:

    This is just a bunch of college students responding to a question about racism and whether it exists or not. No one is trying to pretend that racism DOESN’T exist, so this is just another example of the same tired strawman. I remember when my daughter took a college class with a similar question, and the students had to post a blog post with their answers. My daughter made sure to say that sure, racism is a HUGE problem in the America, because everyone knew that if you suggested otherwise, the professor would flunk you. She had already flunked other students who had dared to disagree with her. There WAS a nugget, however, in this otherwise substanceless page. The very opening disclaimer, an idea that BW would be well served to take to heart. It says: “PLEASE READ WITH AN OPEN MIND. REMEMBER THAT ONE’S VIEW OF RACISM GENERALLY REFLECTS THE EXPERIENCE OF EACH INDIVIDUAL AND HIS/HER SOCIAL ENVIRONMENT. THUS, NOT EVERYONE WILL VIEW OR EXPERIENCE RACISM IN THE SAME WAY.” Bingo! This at least ONE of the things we’ve been trying to say for a LONG time!

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    Link 6: Shocking New Studies Show Racism Exists, Affects People’s Actions (http://newsone.com/1195595/shocking-new-studies-show-racism-exists-affects-peoples-actions/)

    My response:

    This comes from: “NewsOne for Black America.” Ah, THERE’s an impartial source! Could this be an opinion site as well? Yep. Just another race grievance opinion web site. Still, it’s just another web post arguing against a point that no one is trying to make. Everyone knows that racism exists, and no one is trying to pretend it doesn’t. But, there doesn’t seem to be any evidence that racism is a big problem in America.

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    Link 7: Fox New’s Megyn Kelly can’t handle the truth about race and the justice system. (http://www.vox.com/2015/5/29/8687205/criminal-justice-racism)

    My response:

    This is from yet another opinion web site! Surf around on it and you see that it’s not a serious web site. I DO remember the incident referred to above, and Kelly, a lawyer as well as a broadcaster, accurately portrayed the situation in Baltimore that was badly botched by Baltimore’s District Attorney, Marilyn Mosby. Kelly, and others, accurately reported on the disgraceful things that Mosby said in her explanations of why she indicted the three black and three white cops involved in the arrest and subsequent death of Freddie Gray. However, anyone can disagree on all that, but no matter what, even if one were to ADMIT that Kelly doesn’t understand race and incarceration and all that, she’s ONE person. ONE person! There are 300 million people in the United States! 300 million!

    The piece then goes on to show all the aforementioned incarceration charts without, again, providing any context that is absolutely necessary in understanding that issue.

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    There.

    BW: You’ll notice that I addressed ALL YOUR points, as you requested. I even agreed with some of them! You STILL haven’t addressed MY points. By way of review, here they are:
    (1) FACT: The President of the United States is a black man, elected by white people who are, by far, the majority of voters in America.
    (2) FACT: There is nobody trying to get OUT of America. To the contrary, there are all sorts of people whom you call by the condescending term: “People of Color trying to get IN. By the millions.
    (3) FACT: White people abolished slavery, enacted Civil Rights legislation, have transferred trillions of dollars of wealth to the poor, and disproportionately to brown and black people (yes, mostly to single white woman).
    (4) FACT: No black people on earth have it better than here in America. If black people had it better elsewhere, then AMERICAN blacks would be doing their best to join them.
    (5) FACT: One of America’s 35,000 black millionaires said this: “Average folks make excuses while the wealthy make money.” That’s right here:http://www.denniskimbro.com/americas-black-millionaires-food-for-thought/#.VWpI5c9VhBc.
    (6) FACT: On the same web page, where Dennis Kimbro said: “Remember each year $1.2 trillion runs through our hands without a thing to show for it. No other ethnic group tolerates such nonsense”. Dr. Kimbro, a black man, says that black people need only to CHOOSE to be wealthy, and there won’t be anything in their way. Certainly not racism.

    I’m STILL waiting for you to address them, as I REQUESTED (NOT “commanded.”).

    • This clown illustrates my point beautifully! Thanks loon!

      • Rational Observer said:

        May 31, 2015 at 4:45 pm

        @Herneith, referring to your post previous to the above, you’ll note, of course, that (1) at no time in my detailed response to BW did I denigrate anyone else, and (2) how is it that calling ME a “loon” is NOT denigrating? [Rational Observer is a man after my own heart! He doesn’t let the brainless accusations go by without a withering rebuttal that crushes the accusation.]

        So, it’s just fine for YOU to denigrate others?

        I don’t expect you ACTUALLY to read the above, it’s written above your apparent ability to understand. You should probably go play elsewhere, where the fare is less challenging.

        Or, maybe like Mz.Nikita, you’re really just a white spy trying to make black folk seem stupid by posting the REALLY brainless stuff that you do. [Wow! Bang! This is getting even more fun!]

  3. xPraetorius said: [A cameo by your humble correspondent!!! BW, who had long banned me, apparently allows supporting posts through. This is to his credit! It means that there is some flexibility to his thinking.]

    May 31, 2015 at 6:00 pm

    Hey, Rational Observer and DaShawn! First and foremost, I think you’re the same person. See BW’s post before this one — called : “Being a Problem” — where RO appears to have responded as DaShawn.

    Look, I’m very sympathetic to your points of view, and agree with you nearly completely, but you need to consider a couple of things. (1) You need to fight fair. If you are the same person, then it’s not fair that you would pretend to be otherwise. (2) Brotha Wolf has just had a death in the family and is going through a difficult time. I can’t believe you’re not aware of that, and you need to give it a rest.

    I’m a huge believer in fair play, and you guys are catching Brotha Wolf at a weak moment, and you should stop. [Yep. BW mentioned n the middle of all this back-and-forth, that he had just experienced a death in the family (the reason for the delay in publishing this, by the way).  It’s important that others observe the general rules of common courtesy that should always be in place.]

    Just my two cents…

    Best,

    — x

  4. You know what? I have a feeling if I try to respond, this will be a merry-go-round where you and I will end up repeating ourselves. I never thought I’d say this, but I think xPrae is right about you and Deshawn. I also think you’re the same person that continues to comment in the same exact manner but comes back using different names. I don’t know know about my theory, but your comments appear as similar as those who came before you.

    So, I’m just going to ban you from my den because frankly, I’m tired of you and others like you with the same mentality. Goodbye forever. [Still, this is too bad. The practice of “banning” someone is pure and simple proof of cowardice and all blog moderators/owners should be encouraged to avoid it. “Banning” is just another word for “censoring,” and we’ve had way, way, way more than enough of that in recent history, in Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, Red China, and elsewhere. Other than this tawdry, and vaguely totalitarian practice, BW runs an occasionally interesting blog. ]

  5. DaShawn said:

    June 1, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    @xPraetorius, you are correct DaShawn and Rational Observer are the same person. Or, I should say, we’re both DaShawn. I apologize to you and to BrothaWolf. I did it because I figured that sooner or later BrothaWolf was going to ban one of us, and I wanted to keep commenting. He doesn’t take kindly to people disagreeing with him, so I figured that maybe he’d let one of us stay around. When you used to hang around here, this was one of the best blogs around, but since you left, it’s been nothing but the usual “look how bad whitey is” crap, except for a couple of people who came around to challenge the race whiners here. I won’t do it again. In my defense I DO use both ID’s in various online conversations and debates that I have, but I’ll retire Rational Observer at this blog. It’s a shame because that’s my favorite ID. When I use my real name, people know that I’m a black man and they draw conclusions too quickly. [Caught! Rational Observer admits he’s really DaShawn. I knew it! In retrospect, I’m not sure I should have outed Rational Observer/DaShawn. However, BW was in the middle of a weak moment, and I thought that he deserved a break. He was getting pummeled by the vastly superior argumentation of Rational Observer — who really is a rational observer. I can’t help it, I’m an inveterate softie for the underdog! ]

  6. DaShawn said:

    June 1, 2015 at 12:29 pm

    By the way, xPraetorius or Brothawolf, how do you get your text to be bolded or italicized like that? I don’t want to have to rely on CAPS all the time to provide emphasis.

    • xPraetorius said: [Another cameo from yours truly! And, as you’ll see, I was still suspicious of DaShawn/Rational Observer.]

      June 2, 2015 at 11:04 pm

      Hey, Dashawn! I don’t get it. You asked me how to do the bolding thing, but in the post where you responded to BW’s links, above, you did a bunch of bolding. What gives? All you have to do is whatever you did in that post.

      Best,

      — x

  7. DaShawn said:

    June 1, 2015 at 12:33 pm

    Also, I was not aware that BrothaWolf had had a death in the family. I see now from his home page that he has, and I’m sorry to hear it. At times like this, we should ALL band together and support those who are sorrowful, so I will to. I’m so sorry to hear of your hurtful news, BrothaWolf, and I join with the others in praying for you and your family, and in wishing you peace and healing. [This was a graceful post to BW. Was BW man enough to accept it?]

    • Thank you for your condolences, but I still don’t allow sock puppetry in my den. You are banned. [Nope. BW was not man enough!]

  8. DaShawn said:

    June 1, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    Oh, c’mon, BrothaWolf, you don’t say anything about sock puppets anywhere in your welcome page. [True! Apparently BW’s criteria for banning someone are ummmmmm … “flexible.”] How was I supposed to know? And is “sock puppetry” the same thing as using two ID’s to comment? [I confess, I’m not particularly clear on what “sock puppetry” is either. Apparently it’s something like: adopting two or more on-line personae on a single blog. I figured that was just “adopting two or more personae on a single blog,” and I admit I don’t see what’s wrong with that, as long as all you’re doing is expressing your opinions.] And if so, I don’t get what’s wrong with it. I do it all the time, and I know that lots of others do it too. My real name says “black man” too much, so I like to use another one when I want people to just consider what I write and not have to worry about their preconceived notions.

    • It’s a dishonest way of trying to convince that there is more than one person who share the same views as you commenting in someone else’s forum. And what’s wrong with your name ‘DaShawn’? That was the name you chose to use as your username. Anyway, like I said, you are banned from this blog because of your nonsense. I don’t mind those who disagree with me, [Lol! Yes he does! If they persist in their dissent, BW bans them!] but you condemned my opinions with insults like a little child. [Ah! Sensitive a bit? If someone disagrees, should he say that he agrees? What’s he supposed to do? Launch a personal attack against him, as BW does?!? Apparently Hitler lives on in the heart of BW! 🙂 ] Why not learn how to respect other people’s opinions as I respect yours, or at least I used to. [There is no indication anywhere that BW ever respected the opinion of Rational Observer/DaShawn, unless, inveterate racist that he is, he “respected” DaShawn’s name.]

  9. xPraetorius said: [I’ve got a pretty good handle on formatting posts in replies in others’ blogs.]

    June 1, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    @DaShawn: to bold text, you surround the text you want to bold with and .

    To italicize, do the same thing, only use the letter “i”.

    Like this: bolded text and not bolded text. And this: italicized text> and not italicized text

    Best,

    — x

  10. Sorry — I got an extra “>” in the “Italics” version. 🙂

    Best,

    — x

  11. Thank you for this, I can relate to the temple rubbing I was raised under two roofs and two cultures, one being the superior only white culture the other being indigenous (not indian because that is a white definition and I do not allow white people to define me, even if they are brown! Sadly the definitions that white culture has applied is believed by too many minority people who should stop paying attention to those idiots.) and it is undeniable. One example, the last rememberance day I went to was segregated, my uncles who fought in WWII’s memorials and photos are not permitted to be hung alongside the photos and memorials of the settlers and the two segregated groups sit and lie to themselves about the freedom that those people fought and obtained for us.

    The segregation was there when I was a kid too, both sides of my family lied about our racial backgrounds when I was young, we pretended to be white, I was suppose to stay with the white’s but decided instead to venture into the no go native section because no one was ever going to convince me that it was my place to hide my race in public, to ignore and disrespect my own relatives in order to be accepted by assholes, fuck that! Best decision I ever made, walk away from white thinking and experience humanity instead.

    This is something I hang onto to keep me sane, just be happy that that you are not a white person. The reason you are not is just pure luck, you could just as well be born in their place to their parents and be just like them. I now look at them just as I would a person who is mentally ill, or addicted, like an alcoholic or junkie, I have learned to pity them. I am glad I am not so unfortunate to have had bought into and experienced their reality. Being raised white is being raised as an idiot basically, you are taught that as a white person it is my responsibility to be an idiot for the greater idiot collective which functions as a parasite and is destroying the earth which is nothing anyone should want to participate in and just be happy that you are not white. [Wow! What a racist dirtbag! He says, “This is something I hang onto to keep me sane, just be happy that that you are not a white person.” Read the entire post, and you realize that this dude and sanity parted company a long, long time ago!] 

  12. It’s amazing how “Rational Observer” devotes so much time towards refuting the fact that racism indeed exists. But that’s the nature of the beast. It wants to silence your voice by burying you so deep in “fact” and “objectivity” that you never come out of it.

    He wanted you to get stuck in a merry-go-round of point-by-point refutations and you wouldn’t go for it. And now he and his sockpuppets are banned.

    Good. [Other leftists are always okay with the censoring of dissent. After all, the entirety  of the left are insecure in their beliefs. The less they have to challenge their ideas, the less they’ll have to deal with the fact that most of their thinking is really dumb.]

    • I don’t expect you ACTUALLY to read the above, it’s written above your apparent ability to understand.

      Oh I understand that is why I don’t read your posts. It’s the same shit, different toilet bowl. It’s a waste of time. It’s as Mack said and I’ll reiterate; He wanted you to get stuck in a merry-go-round of point-by-point refutations and you wouldn’t go for it. And now he and his sockpuppets are banned.

      If anything Brotha and Mack were to kind in their response to you. I do not suffer fools lightly and do not respond as such. If others wish to, then have at em! [Yet another academic post from Herneith! You can be sure that if you read a post from Herneith, you are reading a really stupid post.]

  13. @IRRATIONALobserver,

    You need to look no further than the mass incarceration of black and brown people for proof that racism still exists. All of the laws of facts listed below was to implement and subsequently target people of color as a control mechanisms. Where have you been living all of your life, … on Mars?

    1971 Pres. Nixon initiated the so-called “war on drugs.”
    1986 – Pres. Reagan increased mandatory sentencing for drug violation offenses.
    1994 – Pres. Clinton signs federal “three strikes” bill into law.
    Blacks are no more likely to commit drug crimes than whites, but 10 times more likely to be incarcerated for them.
    The United States of Amerika has over 2.2 million people incarcerated, this country has the largest percentage of its citizens in prisons and jails than any other country on the planet.
    African Americans account for only 5 percent of this country’s population but yet, make up 40 percent of its prison population.

    Further more, are you aware of the fact that 117 nations the U.N. criticized Amerikkka for police brutality and its racist police forces? Go right ahead IrrationalObserver, and continue pretending as if racism doesn’t exist and you’ll always be a character that other bloggers attribute to being an unwilling COMEDIAN!

    blankenshipsaid: June 6, 2015 at 3:50 pm  [Enter “blankenship!” I have no idea who this is, but I like him!]

    Finally, someone tries to make a case! Except, of course, that bs is arguing against something no one else is saying, so it’s still, kind of stupid. However, let’s take a look bs’s evidence:

     – 1971 war on drugs? How is that proof of any kind of white hostility toward black Americans? It’s seems to be pretty obvious proof of hostility toward drug use.

    – 1986 increased mandatory sentencing for drug offenses? Again, seems like pretty obvious proof only of hostility toward drug abuse.

    – 1994 – The first white trash President, Clinton, sings “three strikes” law? Yeah, so? Again, no evidence whatsoever of any white hostility toward black Americans.

    – The U.S has more people incarcerated than any other country is proof only of the fact that the U.S. has more people incarcerated than any other country. That’s all. Nothing else. However, I agree, something should be done about that. It IS a problem. However, there’s no evidence that it’s a RACIAL problem.

    – Black Americans account for (actually) about 13 percent of the population (not 5%) and they make up 40% of the prison population. Black Americans commit about 40% of all crime. It appears that this statistic ACTUALLY represents the CORRECT proportion of incarcerated black Americans.

    – The UN accused the U.S of racism? That’s nearly conclusive proof that the U.S. ISN’T racist.The U.S. is the LEAST racist country in the world. I’ve lived in other countries. Throughout the world, they accept racism as a natural part of life. EVERYONE worldwide believes that HIS particular ethnicity is better, smarter, nicer, more humane than any other ethnicity.If you’re going to try to use that phrase against me, consider this: yes, there IS a group that IS the least racist in the world: It’s white European/Americans, and I can prove it. If the racist nations of the UN are accusing the U.S. of racism, it’s DEFINITELY to deflect from THEIR OWN human rights abuses.That was a common ploy of the Soviet Union when that hellish nation existed: to deflect from the fact that they were one of the most murderous, bloodthirsty regimes in human history, they always said things like, “Look what the Americans did to the Indians!” And, “Look what the Americans do to black people!”People like you, bs, simply fell for THEIR bs.

  14. The thing with guys like “Rational Observer” it’s almost like fighting Zombies, no matter how many you smack down, another one pops up.

    Jesus Christ – I’ll give him A for effort though.

    He tries SO HARD to come across as serious, neutral and forthright but then contradicts himself all the time. He says

    “Racism is NOT part of the country’s culture in any meaningful way.”

    but then says

    “Racism is nothing unique, but rather just another flavor of human cruelty.”

    I mean, if he can’t see the irony embedded in those remarks, then he’s probably not prepared to enter a dialogue about much of anything.

    And to make it even worse he’ll then demand evidence for the existence of racism even though he’s admitted that racism exists ?

    You want proof Rational Observer ?

    Well quite frankly – I’m proof and so are the millions of black people worldwide, if you still can’t get your head around that and that’s still too much of a mind blowing concept, then just leave it.

    I think he’s just one of those pseudo intellectual types that we’ve all met, fancies himself as a great debater, where everything must be proved ….but only to his random standards.

    blankenshipsaid:

    June 6, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    @HipHop: What you wrote is REALLY dumb. YOU admitted that, and I quote, “he admitted that racism exists” THEN, though, you tried to “prove” that racism exists! Even after YOU said HE admits it exists! THEN YOU called HIM stupid! THEN your “proof” was “you!”If you haven’t figured it out by now, you’re arguing, just like BrothaWolf, and everyone else on this post, AGAINST SOMETHING THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER SAID HERE. Everyone admits that racism exists! If it weren’t sad and kind of pathetic to watch, it would be almost funnySomeone: “Yes, white racism exists, but it’s just not a big problem anymore in America.”Answer: “Oh, yeah? Well, racism DOES exist, and I’m living proof! So there!”And YOU accuse Rational Observer of being stupid?By the way, yes, in ANY debate, you DO have to make your case. You can’t just say things. That is so obvious that I shouldn’t have to say it. So, Rational Observer made his case, why don’t you try to prove him wrong?

— END OF BROTHA WOLF’S SECOND POST —

Wow!

Rational Observer/DaShawn,  and then the late arrival, blankenship, dismantled, razed, took apart, took down, annihilated, disemboweled, eviscerated, dismembered, beheaded, ripped apart, shredded, stomped upon, wrecked, demolished, devastated, pulverized, fragmented, smashed, crushed, chewed up, made mincemeat of, destroyed, squashed, exterminated, extinguished, pounded, stomped upon Brotha Wolf’s arguments.

Your guess: Will Brotha Wolf learn from this?

I don’t think so either.

— xPraetorius

Notes:


(1)  – And I challenge others to prove me wrong. I have a little secret. I don’t mind being proven wrong. If you have compelling evidence that what I say is wrong, then I want to discard completely what I believe that is wrong. Simple as that.

(2) – Note: I’d simply link to the posts but, as mentioned above, I’ve been banned from the sites. As a result, I have no idea whether or not the site owners will keep the posts up. After all, these posts represent rather embarrassing repudiations of the RGI’s so-called “arguments.” Between you and me, if I were Brotha Wolf, or Abagond, I’d delete the posts altogether. They do not show them in good light.

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3 thoughts on “Even MORE Fireworks Over at the RGI!

  1. Wow! Fireworks for sure! Brotha Wolf is banning ANYONE who disagrees with him! Then he’s deciding that anyone who disagrees with him is all the SAME person! Taht’s kind of weird. I’ve been reading the posts that disagree and they’re all similar, but they’re definitely not the same person. Each person expresses him or herself differently. They might be part of a group of some kind that all believe certain things, but they’re definitely not the same person. In other words, they’re definitely not you.

  2. @viewer: I agree with you. Only I’m me, but I have a feeling that ol’ BCW (Brotha Cryin’ Wolf) needed an excuse to get rid of any thought of disagreement on his whiny blog.

    I actually went in there and did him a service! I outed two commenters who were actually one person, and suggested that they/he not do that.

    Somehow, BCW decided that person was me too! As if I run around ratting myself out!

    They’re an odd bunch over there, and you can see how the belief that the earth was flat survived for as long as it did. Once a group is emotionally invested in a conclusion, they’ll frequently do anything at all to keep disagreement away from themselves.

    In there also, is the totalitarian mindset. Can you see a dude — say a Hitler, or a Lenin, or a Mao — struggling for decades to come to power backed by a set of firmly-held beliefs, then relinquishing those beliefs once they obtain power? Not likely.

    The Race Grievance Industry is in power, and is there based on a foundation of lies and slanders, and to admit to the truth is to admit they have been frauds all along. Their saving grace is that the American people are too busy to pay close enough attention.

    Closer attention by more Americans would show the RGI for the frauds they are.

    Best,

    — x

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